Do we have an idea of how common the "congrats email with no shipping" situation is? I know I'm in that boat right now and it's making me nervous.
im in the same boat. ive read more of the same from comments on reddit, but its such a narrow perspective on what is going on that there is no way to tell how extensive it is.
but yeah, def got the sinking feeling that i got screwed after all.
My friend and I are in this situation as well; however, he told me Ebay didn't send him a shipping notification for Allegiance either. Then again, he also got two extra boxes for free. If only we could all be so fortunate...
I've received the confirmation email but my order is still not shipped. However the estimated delivery date is between the May 16th and the 25th. (I'm in France)
So I'm not in panic mode (yet).
for example i thought i might be getting a box after luckily being one of the chosen to get a congratulations email/message. however it appears that many have been updated with shipping information, while i have not. so now i have no clue, and might not get anything. ebay doesnt and wont ever have all that shipping info, because its done by hasbro and needs to be updated on the ebay site by them. the same goes for hasbro presumably deciding who would be included in the 12k, but ebay having to be the ones emailing and messaging.
In the same boat. I had two separate orders, one on my CC, one on my PayPal. Got a confirmation notice and a so sorry notice. Got a refund notification from PayPal. Charge is still on my CC. So I am hopeful still but have not gotten a shipping notification.
I've asked this question on both Facebook and Twitter, but how does a company fairly sell 12,000 units of something to 50,000+ people who want it? What system would be fair? What would survive the DDOS-attack levels of internet traffic? I have an example (what is done for San Diego Comic Con tickets) but I'm curious how others would solve the issues facing this product.
Usually no matter what the solution people will be butthurt. The only answer is if everyone gets one and it's magically worth 10 times what they paid for it even if it's an unlimited print run.
No, it is not necessary to throw up our hands and say the problem is too complicated to solve. We've been solving this problem for a long time at places like stock exchanges.
The answer is some kind of auction, the details dependent on exactly what kind of outcomes people want to prioritize. There needs to be some way for people to communicate the range of prices they are willing to pay, a bidding period to receive that communication, and then a calculation to find the amount of money that 12,000th rank ordered person was willing to pay. Everyone willing to pay more than that either pays that amount, or their bid, or something in between. Everyone below that amount doesnt get a widget.
I just wanted to have some cool looking cards, not engage in childish fantasies that the cardboard I have is a magical object that is impossible to reproduce.
And even then, if just the 50k-ish people who tried to buy boxes got one, it's still a special edition that only the people who were there when it was released have. It'll still appreciate in value, it just won't be an immediate *****-show that feeds scalpers and screws over people who actually appreciate the item itself.
EDIT: And I've *still* neither received confirmation that the order is actually cancelled or that it will be delivered, nor have I received a refund. All I got was some half-assed message that might apply to the first attempt that didn't go through (But should have) or might apply to the later attempt (Which, if the boxes were already sold out and they weren't putting back up cancelled orders or whatever, should never have existed).
I guess I have a different perspective spending the last 20 years going to San Diego Comic Con. In addition to the tickets (which in of itself is now a multi-step, lottery process, due to consistent website crashes every year), the idea of exclusivity is core to the desire, want, and need for certain products. There are not enough for everyone, therefore it intrinsically holds more value than regular stuff anyone can buy. The same holds true for any high-demand limited product, no matter who is selling it or where it's sold. I do this every year at Comic Con with J Scott Campbell signed variant comics. They sell for $40-50 each at his booth, but are literally not available anywhere other than the floor of the convention, and only available in limited quantities. I turn around and sell them online for $90-110, because people who cannot get them through those means want them. It's the same thing with these cards. And printing enough to satisfy all the people who want one actively defeats the purpose of the product entirely.
if you got a message from ebay, it only pertained to orders that were completed and paid (necessitating a refund). for all intents and purposes those failed transactions that happened at the start of the sale never happened, and thus not worth acknowledging. not saying that is right or just or fair or whatever, but just what has happened; no money changed hands = no transaction occurred.
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In the same boat. I had two separate orders, one on my CC, one on my PayPal. Got a confirmation notice and a so sorry notice. Got a refund notification from PayPal. Charge is still on my CC. So I am hopeful still but have not gotten a shipping notification.
This is exactly where I am.
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Been a member here for over a dozen years. Playing since '95 just got lost in the twitch shuffle.
Sunday evening got email that my package shipped, about 20 minutes ago knock at the door. Fedex guy handed me a package it was the Masterpiece box. All I can say is I have my fingers crossed for those still in limbo.
Sunday evening got email that my package shipped, about 20 minutes ago knock at the door. Fedex guy handed me a package it was the Masterpiece box. All I can say is I have my fingers crossed for those still in limbo.
sunday is the earliest ive seen being updated with shipping info. still nothing for me. from what im reading in other places, more people got shipping confirmation today. appears i missed this round, which isnt a good sign, but not like i can do anything about it at this point.
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A friend and I, both in Houston, both have "Yay" ebay messages and not received a ship notice. My guess is it just takes time. It said delivering between 5/6-5/8. Considering how crazy this process has been I wouldn't bet that they even get these all shipped by 5/8. I think people are just getting a little freaked out and then it causes a mob mentality craze. I'd give it about a week then start wondering.
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Got my shipping notification about 1 hour 45 minutes ago. Has an estimated delivery of May 8 (tomorrow). I would be kind of surprised if it comes that quick.
Got my shipping notification about 1 hour 45 minutes ago. Has an estimated delivery of May 8 (tomorrow). I would be kind of surprised if it comes that quick.
That would be pretty crazy!
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For those getting shipping notice today, what part of the country are you located? And do you know approx how many were listed sold when you purchased?
Got my order confirm message days ago, but still waiting on shipping notification.
The order that went through, pending payment, then cancelled was at 12:04 PDT, the one with payment that is being shipped was at 12:22 PDT, the one that was refunded was at 12:34 PDT. Got shipping notification at 1:06 PDT today. I am in the USA, in the East in VA.
Not sure if anyone else got this, but I got an email from eBay asking for the transaction to be formally cancelled via eBay. Depending on your viewpoints of the situation (whether you got your product or not) I would suggest that if you either haven't gotten your refund yet (I haven't) or you simply want to leave negative feedback (I do) do not accept the cancellation. The cancellation page is even explicit about not accepting the cancellation if you have not gotten a refund back yet and I am pretty sure if you cancel it, you can no longer leave negative feedback. In some cases I could see people who did get their product might want to leave negative or neutral feedback since, as this thread has shown, those did not go smoothly either.
Everyone should be able to leave negative feedback if they want starting tomorrow (or maybe Thursday) as that will be the end of the "probationary" 7 day period in which you can't leave negative feedback. It is unlikely to really do anything but I know it will make me feel a little better to do so.
Not sure if anyone else got this, but I got an email from eBay asking for the transaction to be formally cancelled via eBay. Depending on your viewpoints of the situation (whether you got your product or not) I would suggest that if you either haven't gotten your refund yet (I haven't) or you simply want to leave negative feedback (I do) do not accept the cancellation. The cancellation page is even explicit about not accepting the cancellation if you have not gotten a refund back yet and I am pretty sure if you cancel it, you can no longer leave negative feedback. In some cases I could see people who did get their product might want to leave negative or neutral feedback since, as this thread has shown, those did not go smoothly either.
Everyone should be able to leave negative feedback if they want starting tomorrow (or maybe Thursday) as that will be the end of the "probationary" 7 day period in which you can't leave negative feedback. It is unlikely to really do anything but I know it will make me feel a little better to do so.
I'm in the same position, and doing the same thing. I guess at least it's finally nice to be 100% sure I'm not getting my order.
I guess somewhere in the back of my mind I'll keep hoping for a second print run, given how much of a mess this was.
Sunday evening got email that my package shipped, about 20 minutes ago knock at the door. Fedex guy handed me a package it was the Masterpiece box. All I can say is I have my fingers crossed for those still in limbo.
Any pictures? I'm still unable to find any photo proof of it being delivered on the internet.
I guess somewhere in the back of my mind I'll keep hoping for a second print run, given how much of a mess this was.
wizards painted themselves into a corner by explicitly stating a limit with a firm assurance that no more would be printed. had they not it doesnt seem farfetched that they might have printed a few thousand more (like 3k or something), while still maintaining the spirit of 'limited print run'.
then again i have little to no knowledge of how production happens, given the timeline of the release of sets/products relative to how far in advance design/dev is it stands to reason they cant just fire up a printer willy nilly and produce whatever they want; so who knows.
For those getting shipping notice today, what part of the country are you located? And do you know approx how many were listed sold when you purchased?
Got my order confirm message days ago, but still waiting on shipping notification.
from the reddit posts ive been checking regularly to see if anything new has been happening people are claiming no tracking from areas all over the US, some canada, some EU or asia. definitely not enough info to discern any sort of pattern (like people theorizing 2 box orders were going to be shipped last).
Sunday evening got email that my package shipped, about 20 minutes ago knock at the door. Fedex guy handed me a package it was the Masterpiece box. All I can say is I have my fingers crossed for those still in limbo.
Any pictures? I'm still unable to find any photo proof of it being delivered on the internet.
There was one post on reddit. Guy posted a very suspiciously vague picture of an all black box with a mizer's labeling. Many called him out, he then posted the invoice. Frankly, I'd call that confirmed, but something still strikes me as odd about it since no one else has posted pictures. He also posted it the day people started getting shipping updates.
My friend and I are in this situation as well; however, he told me Ebay didn't send him a shipping notification for Allegiance either. Then again, he also got two extra boxes for free. If only we could all be so fortunate...
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In the same boat. I had two separate orders, one on my CC, one on my PayPal. Got a confirmation notice and a so sorry notice. Got a refund notification from PayPal. Charge is still on my CC. So I am hopeful still but have not gotten a shipping notification.
No, it is not necessary to throw up our hands and say the problem is too complicated to solve. We've been solving this problem for a long time at places like stock exchanges.
The answer is some kind of auction, the details dependent on exactly what kind of outcomes people want to prioritize. There needs to be some way for people to communicate the range of prices they are willing to pay, a bidding period to receive that communication, and then a calculation to find the amount of money that 12,000th rank ordered person was willing to pay. Everyone willing to pay more than that either pays that amount, or their bid, or something in between. Everyone below that amount doesnt get a widget.
Isn't that the opposite of a "limited" and "exclusive" product?
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I just wanted to have some cool looking cards, not engage in childish fantasies that the cardboard I have is a magical object that is impossible to reproduce.
And even then, if just the 50k-ish people who tried to buy boxes got one, it's still a special edition that only the people who were there when it was released have. It'll still appreciate in value, it just won't be an immediate *****-show that feeds scalpers and screws over people who actually appreciate the item itself.
EDIT: And I've *still* neither received confirmation that the order is actually cancelled or that it will be delivered, nor have I received a refund. All I got was some half-assed message that might apply to the first attempt that didn't go through (But should have) or might apply to the later attempt (Which, if the boxes were already sold out and they weren't putting back up cancelled orders or whatever, should never have existed).
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
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UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
WCDeath and Taxes(sold)Currently Playing:
Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
That would be pretty crazy!
Currently Playing:
Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
Who knows when me and my brother will get are boxes
Got my order confirm message days ago, but still waiting on shipping notification.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Everyone should be able to leave negative feedback if they want starting tomorrow (or maybe Thursday) as that will be the end of the "probationary" 7 day period in which you can't leave negative feedback. It is unlikely to really do anything but I know it will make me feel a little better to do so.
I'm in the same position, and doing the same thing. I guess at least it's finally nice to be 100% sure I'm not getting my order.
I guess somewhere in the back of my mind I'll keep hoping for a second print run, given how much of a mess this was.
Any pictures? I'm still unable to find any photo proof of it being delivered on the internet.
then again i have little to no knowledge of how production happens, given the timeline of the release of sets/products relative to how far in advance design/dev is it stands to reason they cant just fire up a printer willy nilly and produce whatever they want; so who knows.
from the reddit posts ive been checking regularly to see if anything new has been happening people are claiming no tracking from areas all over the US, some canada, some EU or asia. definitely not enough info to discern any sort of pattern (like people theorizing 2 box orders were going to be shipped last).
UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
WCDeath and Taxes(sold)"Reveal a Dragon"