so.... what happens with damage dealt after the dude I redirected the damage to dies?
I mean, if someone attacks me with a 3/3 double striker.
I let it through and cast this pointing to a 1/1.
what happens with the second damage part from the double striker?
is the damage dealt normally to me because there´s no more 1/1 to soak it or it would try to deal de damage to that 1/1 and "fizzle"?
The explanation text in parentheses under the rules text seems pretty clear “(if it’s still one the battlefield)”. I take it that the redirect stops the moment the chosen permanent leaves the battlefield. So you’d redirect the 3 first strike damage from the double striker to your 1/1 and then take the remaining 3 because you’re 1/1 had died and is no longer on the battlefield.
so.... what happens with damage dealt after the dude I redirected the damage to dies?
I mean, if someone attacks me with a 3/3 double striker.
I let it through and cast this pointing to a 1/1.
what happens with the second damage part from the double striker?
is the damage dealt normally to me because there´s no more 1/1 to soak it or it would try to deal de damage to that 1/1 and "fizzle"?
The explanation text in parentheses under the rules text seems pretty clear “(if it’s still one the battlefield)”. I take it that the redirect stops the moment the chosen permanent leaves the battlefield. So you’d redirect the 3 first strike damage from the double striker to your 1/1 and then take the remaining 3 because you’re 1/1 had died and is no longer on the battlefield.
No damage would be dealt to a player/planeswalker on the normal damage step because the double striker is still blocked for the entire combat step. A creatures blocked status doesn’t change unless a card tells you to do so. The double striker would also need trample to deal damage to the player/planeswalker on the normal damage step since trample lets you deal excess damage.
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so.... what happens with damage dealt after the dude I redirected the damage to dies?
I mean, if someone attacks me with a 3/3 double striker.
I let it through and cast this pointing to a 1/1.
what happens with the second damage part from the double striker?
is the damage dealt normally to me because there´s no more 1/1 to soak it or it would try to deal de damage to that 1/1 and "fizzle"?
The explanation text in parentheses under the rules text seems pretty clear “(if it’s still one the battlefield)”. I take it that the redirect stops the moment the chosen permanent leaves the battlefield. So you’d redirect the 3 first strike damage from the double striker to your 1/1 and then take the remaining 3 because you’re 1/1 had died and is no longer on the battlefield.
No damage would be dealt to a player/planeswalker on the normal damage step because the double striker is still blocked for the entire combat step. A creatures blocked status doesn’t change unless a card tells you to do so. The double striker would also need trample to deal damage to the player/planeswalker on the normal damage step since trample lets you deal excess damage.
Except the creature you target here isn't blocking, so that changes things. Damage is being redirected, in which case I would agree with DarklingScribe2. I am sure this will be in the rulings for the card, however, which should be available next week.
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I think he somehow manages to switch Liliana's contract with his invulnerability. The question would be if that is a permanent upgrade to Lili.
I'm curious about that as well. Could be get an orzhov Liliana then?
This is sad though. I liked Gideon. Not a huge Liliana fan so I would have preferred her story end here but that seemed highly unlikely.
WOTC could never really win since all of the Gatewatch have fans. Characterwise at least it makes sense for Gideon to do this.
Maybe, they've been trying to make Liliana less of a pure black character for the past several sets now. Probably because black gets seen as evil and they want her to be seen as a hero for marketing reasons.
I think he somehow manages to switch Liliana's contract with his invulnerability. The question would be if that is a permanent upgrade to Lili.
I'm curious about that as well. Could be get an orzhov Liliana then?
This is sad though. I liked Gideon. Not a huge Liliana fan so I would have preferred her story end here but that seemed highly unlikely.
WOTC could never really win since all of the Gatewatch have fans. Characterwise at least it makes sense for Gideon to do this.
Maybe, they've been trying to make Liliana less of a pure black character for the past several sets now. Probably because black gets seen as evil and they want her to be seen as a hero for marketing reasons.
I feel that she will stay mono-black as we now have two WB walkers free. What we will likely see is more internal struggles from Lili as she tries to understand why Gideon would sacrifice himself for her and her new found freedom. Lili is the perfect character to show the good side of mono-black characters, if Wizards chooses to go this route, and if done right would help endear more fans to her through overcoming her past mistakes and misdeeds and becoming a better person. Or she could remain a more selfish and aloof anti-hero type character. The real question I have is will she stay with the Gatewatch now that she is free from her contract?
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The heroes most willing to sacrifice themselves for others are usually the ones who least deserve to.
I'm guessing this takes place right after Bolas "LOLNopes" Gideon. At least Gideon still has a hand in Bolas' downfall.
Nah, people are still griping about the story. Nothing would be a good story except a complete rout of the Gatewatch it seems.
Yep. It seems like it has to be some sort of Game of Thrones level of deaths, or the story just sucks. Including the death of the villain.
I mean, ffs. In Lord of the Rings, exactly one major face hero dies in the second act (Boromir), and one in the third act (Theoden). And the BBEG doesn't even die in the end. Sauron does NOT die in the LotR. He simply has all his power stripped from him, and is doomed to wander Middle Earth as a shattered fraction of his former self. Clearly, half of more of the Fellowship needed to die, and Sauron needed to die, or the story is garbage, right?
Same with a great many pieces of fiction, including some of the very best out there. Where there are major wars or the like, and virtually none of the heroes die. But many background characters die all around them, and it is the deaths of the many background characters that show the high stakes, not the deaths of the heroes.
And now and then, someone sacrifices themselves for the good of the others, becoming one of the only major deaths in the whole overarching story.
Because we're following the story of the survivors, in the end. The stakes didn't just disappear because most of the heroes lived to the end of so many top-notch fictional stories. We could have followed the story of one of the many background characters, watching them die tragically, but that does not, in fact, a better story make.
But yeah. The nonstop griping because *gasp* most of the heroes lived through to the end, except for those who heroically sacrificed themselves at a key moment, as the "only way the story could have been redeemed/good" doesn't remotely mesh with the vast majority of top-notch fictional narratives. Note: this is not a statement by me about the quality of this story either positively or negatively. Simply a statement that the assertion many seem to be making that a lot of planeswalkers printed in the set "needed" to die for the story to be good or the stakes to be high, while the dozen or more definitely dead planeswalkers whose sparks we see floating around indicating they definitely DIED (along with countless citizens of Ravnica) don't count as high-stakes-enough, comes across as absurd on its face. A massive number of fantastic narratives do not, in fact, have all that many heroes die. Not even during a great war/battle in the final act. Yet somehow manage to remain both high-stakes and great stories with most of the heroes themselves surviving.
I think he somehow manages to switch Liliana's contract with his invulnerability. The question would be if that is a permanent upgrade to Lili.
I'm curious about that as well. Could be get an orzhov Liliana then?
This is sad though. I liked Gideon. Not a huge Liliana fan so I would have preferred her story end here but that seemed highly unlikely.
WOTC could never really win since all of the Gatewatch have fans. Characterwise at least it makes sense for Gideon to do this.
Maybe, they've been trying to make Liliana less of a pure black character for the past several sets now. Probably because black gets seen as evil and they want her to be seen as a hero for marketing reasons.
I feel that she will stay mono-black as we now have two WB walkers free. What we will likely see is more internal struggles from Lili as she tries to understand why Gideon would sacrifice himself for her and her new found freedom. Lili is the perfect character to show the good side of mono-black characters, if Wizards chooses to go this route, and if done right would help endear more fans to her through overcoming her past mistakes and misdeeds and becoming a better person. Or she could remain a more selfish and aloof anti-hero type character. The real question I have is will she stay with the Gatewatch now that she is free from her contract?
From what I've read, this might happen but that last line......ehh (seems to contradict something)(especially with Kaya joining the Watch)
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My gripe can be summed up quite simply: Liliana's narrative has been an ongoing loop of her hubris being payed for by others for about as long as she has had a narrative. Gideon's fate here makes okay storytelling sense, though I would have preferred him getting to complete the traditional epilogue of the Greek tragic hero tale and die after coming home, but Lili's arc is stagnating in repetition. It remains to be seen if they use her choices here to explore new storytelling directions for the character, but within WAR itself, she's ultimately treading water in the same theme she's had all along.
Just think: If that poor Ravnica kid and mother hadn't been standing underneath a faltering structure Liliana would have carried out Bolas's plan. Golly what a wicked twist of fate. Bolas had scissors, MTG writers universe had ROCK!
Well, there's your ****ing Gatewatch death, folks. And of course it was my favorite member of the team, continuing Magic's long-standing tradition of killing off itscoolestheroes. Happy now!?
The heroes most willing to sacrifice themselves for others are usually the ones who least deserve to.
I'm guessing this takes place right after Bolas "LOLNopes" Gideon. At least Gideon still has a hand in Bolas' downfall.
Nah, people are still griping about the story. Nothing would be a good story except a complete rout of the Gatewatch it seems.
Yep. It seems like it has to be some sort of Game of Thrones level of deaths, or the story just sucks. Including the death of the villain.
I mean, ffs. In Lord of the Rings, exactly one major face hero dies in the second act (Boromir), and one in the third act (Theoden). And the BBEG doesn't even die in the end. Sauron does NOT die in the LotR. He simply has all his power stripped from him, and is doomed to wander Middle Earth as a shattered fraction of his former self. Clearly, half of more of the Fellowship needed to die, and Sauron needed to die, or the story is garbage, right?
Same with a great many pieces of fiction, including some of the very best out there. Where there are major wars or the like, and virtually none of the heroes die. But many background characters die all around them, and it is the deaths of the many background characters that show the high stakes, not the deaths of the heroes.
And now and then, someone sacrifices themselves for the good of the others, becoming one of the only major deaths in the whole overarching story.
Because we're following the story of the survivors, in the end. The stakes didn't just disappear because most of the heroes lived to the end of so many top-notch fictional stories. We could have followed the story of one of the many background characters, watching them die tragically, but that does not, in fact, a better story make.
But yeah. The nonstop griping because *gasp* most of the heroes lived through to the end, except for those who heroically sacrificed themselves at a key moment, as the "only way the story could have been redeemed/good" doesn't remotely mesh with the vast majority of top-notch fictional narratives. Note: this is not a statement by me about the quality of this story either positively or negatively. Simply a statement that the assertion many seem to be making that a lot of planeswalkers printed in the set "needed" to die for the story to be good or the stakes to be high, while the dozen or more definitely dead planeswalkers whose sparks we see floating around indicating they definitely DIED (along with countless citizens of Ravnica) don't count as high-stakes-enough, comes across as absurd on its face. A massive number of fantastic narratives do not, in fact, have all that many heroes die. Not even during a great war/battle in the final act. Yet somehow manage to remain both high-stakes and great stories with most of the heroes themselves surviving.
It's quite astonishing, really.
There are two big reasons for this. Firstly, the Gatewatch from its inception has never felt like an organically put together team for many people. As evidenced by characters like Nissa recieving retcons explicitly so that they can fit into a market-friendly team of face characters. Along with the slapdash way that the team was assembled. Secondly, the Gatewatch's plot armor is noticably thick. Things happen to the team seemingly because the plot requires it, they have over thrice now come into contact with beings noted by the writers to be far beyond their league and have either prevailed or come out otherwise largely unharmed in ways that many see as unearned and contrived. Destroying two of the most powerful known beings in canon when their god-like predecessors stated that they would have great difficulty in doing so seemingly because they are the main characters. Also the plane those beings were destroying is going to be mostly fine. Also one (arguably three) member(s) of the team was to blame for those beings being unimprisoned in the first place and saw little in the way of consequences. Then the third being just decides to be defeated my our MCs for reasons that are just left for some kind of "future mystery" that likely won't be touched on for another half decade. Not to mention that if anyone else comes close to these beings, they are met with any combination of: A. Being disintegrated immediately, B. Losing their minds, or C. Being horribly transmogrified. The Gatewatch is immune, though. Because main characters. They also defy the most powerful existing planeswalker sans maybe Karn or Ugin and all get off pretty okay (Jace literally becomes a better person because of this). Because main characters, again.
The thing about LoTR is that it's loved because not only is it a story about someone who is largely a nobody rising to the occasion and making sacrifices to then become a hero, it is also densely rich in well constructed lore. The Gatewatch's story on the other hand features a collection of characters who were already The Special(tm) set in a multiverse that is presented as noticably shallower than it used to be even just 8 years ago. Look at the presentation of Zendikar vs BFZ block.
TL:DR: People don't belive that stories are only good if people die, they're dying for the Gatewatch to really find soke hard consequences after avoiding them for years now. And a lot of people probably do also want these characters to either die or be pushed out of the limelight because of how they've found the Gatewatch to be unlikeable and uncompelling on top of the team being shoved down the throats of the playerbase as a pretty transparent marketing scheme to the detriment of other characters and sometimes even Gatewatch members themselves.
Imo, War of the Spark should be a soft reboot of how the story is handledz but that isn't going to be the case, most likely.
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Well, there's your ****ing Gatewatch death, folks. And of course it was my favorite member of the team, continuing Magic's long-standing tradition of killing off itscoolestheroes. Happy now!?
The heroes most willing to sacrifice themselves for others are usually the ones who least deserve to.
I'm guessing this takes place right after Bolas "LOLNopes" Gideon. At least Gideon still has a hand in Bolas' downfall.
Nah, people are still griping about the story. Nothing would be a good story except a complete rout of the Gatewatch it seems.
Yep. It seems like it has to be some sort of Game of Thrones level of deaths, or the story just sucks. Including the death of the villain.
I mean, ffs. In Lord of the Rings, exactly one major face hero dies in the second act (Boromir), and one in the third act (Theoden). And the BBEG doesn't even die in the end. Sauron does NOT die in the LotR. He simply has all his power stripped from him, and is doomed to wander Middle Earth as a shattered fraction of his former self. Clearly, half of more of the Fellowship needed to die, and Sauron needed to die, or the story is garbage, right?
Same with a great many pieces of fiction, including some of the very best out there. Where there are major wars or the like, and virtually none of the heroes die. But many background characters die all around them, and it is the deaths of the many background characters that show the high stakes, not the deaths of the heroes.
And now and then, someone sacrifices themselves for the good of the others, becoming one of the only major deaths in the whole overarching story.
Because we're following the story of the survivors, in the end. The stakes didn't just disappear because most of the heroes lived to the end of so many top-notch fictional stories. We could have followed the story of one of the many background characters, watching them die tragically, but that does not, in fact, a better story make.
But yeah. The nonstop griping because *gasp* most of the heroes lived through to the end, except for those who heroically sacrificed themselves at a key moment, as the "only way the story could have been redeemed/good" doesn't remotely mesh with the vast majority of top-notch fictional narratives. Note: this is not a statement by me about the quality of this story either positively or negatively. Simply a statement that the assertion many seem to be making that a lot of planeswalkers printed in the set "needed" to die for the story to be good or the stakes to be high, while the dozen or more definitely dead planeswalkers whose sparks we see floating around indicating they definitely DIED (along with countless citizens of Ravnica) don't count as high-stakes-enough, comes across as absurd on its face. A massive number of fantastic narratives do not, in fact, have all that many heroes die. Not even during a great war/battle in the final act. Yet somehow manage to remain both high-stakes and great stories with most of the heroes themselves surviving.
It's quite astonishing, really.
no one needed to die for the story to be good, and i think almost all following don't have that as an axiom. people only want it in this specific case cause the gatewatch is awfully boring at best and downright derivative and stale at worst. so yeah, people want them gone and if the goddamn eldrazi weren't a match, there was a sense of hope that a 10-year-arc villain could do it. it's not that people are enamored with bolas either - he too, as the story developed, became another cliche. and it's not that astonishing.
frankly, it is a pretty good idea to tie the game to a fictional narrative so much, but i personally believe that they're throwing away the golden eggs while keeping the chicken, if you know what i mean.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Chain Veil, gift of invulnerability, now i wounder if she will go after Sarkhan temporal anomality and Tezeret's robotic arms
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
Gideon save Liliana voluntarily.. so the other gatewatch members probably won't be angry at her for that.
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I'm curious about that as well. Could be get an orzhov Liliana then?
This is sad though. I liked Gideon. Not a huge Liliana fan so I would have preferred her story end here but that seemed highly unlikely.
WOTC could never really win since all of the Gatewatch have fans. Characterwise at least it makes sense for Gideon to do this.
The explanation text in parentheses under the rules text seems pretty clear “(if it’s still one the battlefield)”. I take it that the redirect stops the moment the chosen permanent leaves the battlefield. So you’d redirect the 3 first strike damage from the double striker to your 1/1 and then take the remaining 3 because you’re 1/1 had died and is no longer on the battlefield.
No damage would be dealt to a player/planeswalker on the normal damage step because the double striker is still blocked for the entire combat step. A creatures blocked status doesn’t change unless a card tells you to do so. The double striker would also need trample to deal damage to the player/planeswalker on the normal damage step since trample lets you deal excess damage.
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The heroes most willing to sacrifice themselves for others are usually the ones who least deserve to.
I'm guessing this takes place right after Bolas "LOLNopes" Gideon. At least Gideon still has a hand in Bolas' downfall.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Except the creature you target here isn't blocking, so that changes things. Damage is being redirected, in which case I would agree with DarklingScribe2. I am sure this will be in the rulings for the card, however, which should be available next week.
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Nah, people are still griping about the story. Nothing would be a good story except a complete rout of the Gatewatch it seems.
Maybe, they've been trying to make Liliana less of a pure black character for the past several sets now. Probably because black gets seen as evil and they want her to be seen as a hero for marketing reasons.
I feel that she will stay mono-black as we now have two WB walkers free. What we will likely see is more internal struggles from Lili as she tries to understand why Gideon would sacrifice himself for her and her new found freedom. Lili is the perfect character to show the good side of mono-black characters, if Wizards chooses to go this route, and if done right would help endear more fans to her through overcoming her past mistakes and misdeeds and becoming a better person. Or she could remain a more selfish and aloof anti-hero type character. The real question I have is will she stay with the Gatewatch now that she is free from her contract?
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She won't have the Chain Veil, the art in Finale of Eternity shows her using it to destroy Bolas' gem.
Yep. It seems like it has to be some sort of Game of Thrones level of deaths, or the story just sucks. Including the death of the villain.
I mean, ffs. In Lord of the Rings, exactly one major face hero dies in the second act (Boromir), and one in the third act (Theoden). And the BBEG doesn't even die in the end. Sauron does NOT die in the LotR. He simply has all his power stripped from him, and is doomed to wander Middle Earth as a shattered fraction of his former self. Clearly, half of more of the Fellowship needed to die, and Sauron needed to die, or the story is garbage, right?
Same with a great many pieces of fiction, including some of the very best out there. Where there are major wars or the like, and virtually none of the heroes die. But many background characters die all around them, and it is the deaths of the many background characters that show the high stakes, not the deaths of the heroes.
And now and then, someone sacrifices themselves for the good of the others, becoming one of the only major deaths in the whole overarching story.
Because we're following the story of the survivors, in the end. The stakes didn't just disappear because most of the heroes lived to the end of so many top-notch fictional stories. We could have followed the story of one of the many background characters, watching them die tragically, but that does not, in fact, a better story make.
But yeah. The nonstop griping because *gasp* most of the heroes lived through to the end, except for those who heroically sacrificed themselves at a key moment, as the "only way the story could have been redeemed/good" doesn't remotely mesh with the vast majority of top-notch fictional narratives. Note: this is not a statement by me about the quality of this story either positively or negatively. Simply a statement that the assertion many seem to be making that a lot of planeswalkers printed in the set "needed" to die for the story to be good or the stakes to be high, while the dozen or more definitely dead planeswalkers whose sparks we see floating around indicating they definitely DIED (along with countless citizens of Ravnica) don't count as high-stakes-enough, comes across as absurd on its face. A massive number of fantastic narratives do not, in fact, have all that many heroes die. Not even during a great war/battle in the final act. Yet somehow manage to remain both high-stakes and great stories with most of the heroes themselves surviving.
It's quite astonishing, really.
From what I've read, this might happen but that last line......ehh (seems to contradict something)(especially with Kaya joining the Watch)
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The thing about LoTR is that it's loved because not only is it a story about someone who is largely a nobody rising to the occasion and making sacrifices to then become a hero, it is also densely rich in well constructed lore. The Gatewatch's story on the other hand features a collection of characters who were already The Special(tm) set in a multiverse that is presented as noticably shallower than it used to be even just 8 years ago. Look at the presentation of Zendikar vs BFZ block.
TL:DR: People don't belive that stories are only good if people die, they're dying for the Gatewatch to really find soke hard consequences after avoiding them for years now. And a lot of people probably do also want these characters to either die or be pushed out of the limelight because of how they've found the Gatewatch to be unlikeable and uncompelling on top of the team being shoved down the throats of the playerbase as a pretty transparent marketing scheme to the detriment of other characters and sometimes even Gatewatch members themselves.
Imo, War of the Spark should be a soft reboot of how the story is handledz but that isn't going to be the case, most likely.
-Chandra Nalaar
no one needed to die for the story to be good, and i think almost all following don't have that as an axiom. people only want it in this specific case cause the gatewatch is awfully boring at best and downright derivative and stale at worst. so yeah, people want them gone and if the goddamn eldrazi weren't a match, there was a sense of hope that a 10-year-arc villain could do it. it's not that people are enamored with bolas either - he too, as the story developed, became another cliche. and it's not that astonishing.
frankly, it is a pretty good idea to tie the game to a fictional narrative so much, but i personally believe that they're throwing away the golden eggs while keeping the chicken, if you know what i mean.
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goodbye gideon you were the greatest hero yet in mtg history
I think it was an older sister protecting a younger brother,
which would resonate heavier with Lili than mother and child.
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Yeah and most of them just comeback as a zombie oe spirit unlike the other creature types and color that rebirthed still as dragons and etc mostly.
This has been always the fate of white aligned creatures as an obvious cliche in mtg to be deregoratory from there formerself.
Get ready for Jace harem even with snip planeswalker.
He died for Liliana's sins. Rest in peace Hero of Akros.
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Damn, I just realized I made a pun about Gideon's sacrifice without meaning to.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.