An elder dragon that plotted against everyone, made sure to make every thing that could kill him be unable to do so forgets that the wealpons he created and thus have his power now can damage hin.
A weakness of a character that teoricaly maintened it alive could be given to another one without consequences.
A lot of things happening off scream
The rules for when a eternal touches a walker changes depending on who it is touching
A possible character development is undone because the character who accomplished it is not the real deal.
He also forgets he can fly lol. And yeah not protecting yourself against your own spark stealing zombies....basically Bolas is getting hit with a lot of PIS and sorry shouting his arrogant doesn't cover all this.
An elder dragon that plotted against everyone, made sure to make every thing that could kill him be unable to do so forgets that the wealpons he created and thus have his power now can damage hin.
A weakness of a character that teoricaly maintened it alive could be given to another one without consequences.
A lot of things happening off scream
The rules for when a eternal touches a walker changes depending on who it is touching
A possible character development is undone because the character who accomplished it is not the real deal.
He also forgets he can fly lol. And yeah not protecting yourself against your own spark stealing zombies....basically Bolas is getting hit with a lot of PIS and sorry shouting his arrogant doesn't cover all this.
They're not even using his already stablished character flaw, he's R because he's an histrionic nerd mortally afraid of growing old.
But no, he's Ronan now, because Marvel did it and we gotta jump off a bridge if Marvel does it.
People in this thread are really trying to argue that a group who trick people into predatory loans, binds their souls into eternal servitude, and racketeers people for protection money while burying them under incomprehensible legal jargon isn't bad.
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-Chandra Nalaar
Bolas bad, he the baddest, he the baddest bad bad of all bads. No argument there. He's just actually better at it than most, and they've made him appear ahead of the curve at all costs except for gotta keep selling cards costs, so all of a sudden, he not that bad.
People in this thread are really trying to argue that a group who trick people into predatory loans, binds their souls into eternal servitude, and racketeers people for protection money while burying them under incomprehensible legal jargon isn't bad.
People are weird yeah. Super strange/inaccurate take on the Orzhov, that they’re evil shouldn’t really have to be argued about yet here we are.
And on the Bolas note his loss feels perfectly believable. People just are hyping him up too much in their heads.
People in this thread are really trying to argue that a group who trick people into predatory loans, binds their souls into eternal servitude, and racketeers people for protection money while burying them under incomprehensible legal jargon isn't bad.
People are weird yeah. Super strange/inaccurate take on the Orzhov, that they’re evil shouldn’t really have to be argued about yet here we are.
And on the Bolas note his loss feels perfectly believable. People just are hyping him up too much in their heads.
We didn't write the accomplishments of Bolas. Wizards did.
None of his accomplishments equal “can’t be beaten”. His original death was exceptionally lame, but a joint effort by his equal and multiple Planeswalkers is “bad”. *shrugs* You overhyped him, that’s all.
He's stronger than all planes-walkers
I'm not saying he should be unbeatable. Just not so vaguely dismissed into "but that egg though..." and woops hereeeeee's Ugin.
I digress, it is what it is. Still one of the strongest cards in the set.
He got sneak attacked and died, something that the way people talk about him should be impossible. He beat his equal by bringing in outside help. And he couldn’t even blow up Alara properly.
And you have zero idea what all specifically causes his downfall. That one element, his connection to another plane that is personally his, is involved is not bad writing. The guy isn’t omnipotent or omniscient.
He's stronger than all planes-walkers
I'm not saying he should be unbeatable. Just not so vaguely dismissed into "but that egg though..." and woops hereeeeee's Ugin.
I digress, it is what it is. Still one of the strongest cards in the set.
I mean, he also lost in a 1v1 fight with Ajani of all people.
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"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
He got sneak attacked and died, something that the way people talk about him should be impossible. He beat his equal by bringing in outside help. And he couldn’t even blow up Alara properly.
And you have zero idea what all specifically causes his downfall. That one element, his connection to another plane that is personally his, is involved is not bad writing. The guy isn’t omnipotent or omniscient.
He also invaded an ECUMENOPOLIS with high-tech magics, and many still-living founders of guilds who have been in control of major portions of a planet-sized city's infrastructure for 10,000 years EACH.
And summoned dozens of planeswalkers to the plane, then put them into a desperate life-or-death situation.
On a world-sized city.
He may have had a fair number of eternals. But ffs. A conservative estimate of Ravnica would have absurd numbers of citizens, with high-tech levels of magic. They have, in canon, the equivalent of guns, bamsticks, at all levels of society; not just the police powers.
It was a major tactical error, and a major oversight of one of the most powerful walkers he thought he killed still being alive.
Sure, needing all those walkers in one place might have been necessary. But he invaded one of the most powerful planes in the known multiverse of Magic.
He got sneak attacked and died, something that the way people talk about him should be impossible. He beat his equal by bringing in outside help. And he couldn’t even blow up Alara properly.
And you have zero idea what all specifically causes his downfall. That one element, his connection to another plane that is personally his, is involved is not bad writing. The guy isn’t omnipotent or omniscient.
He also invaded an ECUMENOPOLIS with high-tech magics, and many still-living founders of guilds who have been in control of major portions of a planet-sized city's infrastructure for 10,000 years EACH.
And summoned dozens of planeswalkers to the plane, then put them into a desperate life-or-death situation.
On a world-sized city.
He may have had a fair number of eternals. But ffs. A conservative estimate of Ravnica would have absurd numbers of citizens, with high-tech levels of magic. They have, in canon, the equivalent of guns, bamsticks, at all levels of society; not just the police powers.
It was a major tactical error, and a major oversight of one of the most powerful walkers he thought he killed still being alive.
Sure, needing all those walkers in one place might have been necessary. But he invaded one of the most powerful planes in the known multiverse of Magic.
He needed a place that would keep the walkers invested, at least that’s what makes the most sense to me. If not pulling people to Amonkhet would have been more sensible. Granted it’s also Bolas, even if it’s not wise he’s very arrogant, so going for a very big target makes sense.
People in this thread are really trying to argue that a group who trick people into predatory loans, binds their souls into eternal servitude, and racketeers people for protection money while burying them under incomprehensible legal jargon isn't bad.
Because its not simply that black and white (Pun intended).
He also forgets he can fly lol. And yeah not protecting yourself against your own spark stealing zombies....basically Bolas is getting hit with a lot of PIS and sorry shouting his arrogant doesn't cover all this.
He's arrogant THEREFORE BOLAS NO WIN!
But no, he's Ronan now, because Marvel did it and we gotta jump off a bridge if Marvel does it.
-Chandra Nalaar
People are weird yeah. Super strange/inaccurate take on the Orzhov, that they’re evil shouldn’t really have to be argued about yet here we are.
And on the Bolas note his loss feels perfectly believable. People just are hyping him up too much in their heads.
We didn't write the accomplishments of Bolas. Wizards did.
He's stronger than all planes-walkers
I'm not saying he should be unbeatable. Just not so vaguely dismissed into "but that egg though..." and woops hereeeeee's Ugin.
I digress, it is what it is. Still one of the strongest cards in the set.
And you have zero idea what all specifically causes his downfall. That one element, his connection to another plane that is personally his, is involved is not bad writing. The guy isn’t omnipotent or omniscient.
I mean, he also lost in a 1v1 fight with Ajani of all people.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
He also invaded an ECUMENOPOLIS with high-tech magics, and many still-living founders of guilds who have been in control of major portions of a planet-sized city's infrastructure for 10,000 years EACH.
And summoned dozens of planeswalkers to the plane, then put them into a desperate life-or-death situation.
On a world-sized city.
He may have had a fair number of eternals. But ffs. A conservative estimate of Ravnica would have absurd numbers of citizens, with high-tech levels of magic. They have, in canon, the equivalent of guns, bamsticks, at all levels of society; not just the police powers.
It was a major tactical error, and a major oversight of one of the most powerful walkers he thought he killed still being alive.
Sure, needing all those walkers in one place might have been necessary. But he invaded one of the most powerful planes in the known multiverse of Magic.
He needed a place that would keep the walkers invested, at least that’s what makes the most sense to me. If not pulling people to Amonkhet would have been more sensible. Granted it’s also Bolas, even if it’s not wise he’s very arrogant, so going for a very big target makes sense.
https://youtu.be/fRs0OqV4uSc
Joke Sound Effect (Ba dum tss!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5VMZqgVzRo
As many people have already said, Kaya isn't exactly a great fit for the Gatewatch. Her short-lived "reign" over the Orzhov Syndicate shows why.
Was he? That's not the way I remember it at all. To me, Brago seemed like a tyrant.