This is pretty weak considering how much stronger the other Triumphs are (especially Nissa's). However, God-Eternal Kefnet does turn this into Ancestral Recall if you get lucky...
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They really aren't great. I get the point - they are supposed to show how each Gatewatch member underwent character development - but there's little to no subtlety to it. But then again, subtlety isn't exactly one of WotC's strong suits.
This is pretty weak considering how much stronger the other Triumphs are (especially Nissa's). However, God-Eternal Kefnet does turn this into Ancestral Recall if you get lucky...
I mean, it's Divination. People will still play it.
This is pretty weak considering how much stronger the other Triumphs are (especially Nissa's). However, God-Eternal Kefnet does turn this into Ancestral Recall if you get lucky...
A 3 mana draw 3 is pretty good in my book. Also, Jace is a better planeswalker and blue is a better color. If Counterspell shows up in the upcoming Master's set I bet Mono U Jace will become a thing in Modern.
Jace: I think I've got a plan to defeat Bolas. Chandra: Does it involve thinking?
Jace: Lots.
So, Jace finds a way to turn Bolas' spark-stealing plan against him.
Bolas: YES! THE ABSOLUTE POWER! THE MULTIVERSE IS MINE TO COMMAND! TO CONTROL!
Jace: Not so fast, Bolas! Aren't you forgetting something!?
Bolas: WHAT?
Jace: You wanted to be a God? You got it!
*shackles appear over God-Bolas' wrists*
Bolas: WHAT!?
Jace: And everything that goes with it!
*suddenly, the Immortal Sun starts sucking Bolas in*
Bolas: NO! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Jace: Phenomenal cosmic power...
*Bolas is trapped within the Immortal Sun*
Jace:...itty bitty living space.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Your point isn't entirely wrong, but keep in mind that having a Jace planeswalker in play is a much easier criteria to hit than having 10 permanents. Having a 2U Mana cost vs a 1UU one is also slightly easier to hit, and as mentioned you can't entirely ignore Kefnet making this an Ancestral Recall.
All of that said, it's still not likely than not that we're not going to see this as a serious card in any constructed formats.
Oh, Jace. Last time you went toe-to-toe with Bolas, you got curbstomped so badly that you woke up on a desert island a thousand planes away, unable even to remember your own name.
But yes, tell me more about how much better you are than Bolas, on principle.
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"I'd rather die speaking the truth than live a lie." --Gix, to Yawgmoth (pre-Phyrexia)
Oh, Jace. Last time you went toe-to-toe with Bolas, you got curbstomped so badly that you woke up on a desert island a thousand planes away, unable even to remember your own name.
But yes, tell me more about how much better you are than Bolas, on principle.
Simple: Last time, he didn't use Bolas' power against him. Most likely by turning the Sparks into some form of trap. Oh, and there's also the fact the memory spell he cast on Vraska absolutely fooled Bolas. For that matter, Jace actually succeeded in breaking Bolas's mental barrier, if only for a moment, which is how he learned about Ixalan in the first place, allowing him to instintively walk there. Bolas has no idea Jace has been there the entire time. So, he's already outsmarted Bolas once. And he's about to do so twice, and hard.
MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Its floor is Divination which has been playable depending on the standard format so it's hard to be too upset about it. Granted if you can have a Jace planeswalker in play and untap odds are good that you'll be winning anyway so it could just be winmore. Overall a reasonable, if not particularly exciting, card. Whereas a card like Nissa's Triumph has a much lower floor, but a much higher ceiling.
Ultimate power is self-defeating? Excuse me, what? How exactly?
Well, if you knew the answer to that, the card would be called 13055's Triumph instead of Jace's Triumph. Only Jace really understands why. Well, and the WotC story writers.
The flavor text does seem to indicate that Jace's Vraska plan doesn't actually work.
Jace: I think I've got a plan to defeat Bolas. Chandra: Does it involve thinking?
Jace: Lots.
So, Jace finds a way to turn Bolas' spark-stealing plan against him.
Bolas: YES! THE ABSOLUTE POWER! THE MULTIVERSE IS MINE TO COMMAND! TO CONTROL!
Jace: Not so fast, Bolas! Aren't you forgetting something!?
Bolas: WHAT?
Jace: You wanted to be a God? You got it!
*shackles appear over God-Bolas' wrists*
Bolas: WHAT!?
Jace: And everything that goes with it!
*suddenly, the Immortal Sun starts sucking Bolas in*
Bolas: NO! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Jace: Phenomenal cosmic power...
*Bolas is trapped within the Immortal Sun*
Jace:...itty bitty living space.
Ultimate power is self-defeating? Excuse me, what? How exactly?
Because even if he got the powers of a literal god, he would still want more power and prestige to elevate himself above all others for he is that hungry. Such want also leads to self-destruction.
Oh, Jace. Last time you went toe-to-toe with Bolas, you got curbstomped so badly that you woke up on a desert island a thousand planes away, unable even to remember your own name.
But yes, tell me more about how much better you are than Bolas, on principle.
Simple: Last time, he didn't use Bolas' power against him. Most likely by turning the Sparks into some form of trap. Oh, and there's also the fact the memory spell he cast on Vraska absolutely fooled Bolas. For that matter, Jace actually succeeded in breaking Bolas's mental barrier, if only for a moment, which is how he learned about Ixalan in the first place, allowing him to instintively walk there. Bolas has no idea Jace has been there the entire time. So, he's already outsmarted Bolas once. And he's about to do so twice, and hard.
Wasn't the planeswalk to Ixalan actually a failsafe that Ugin installed in Jace's mind to prevent Bolas from learning about him?
I think the key here is that when he was close to the immortal sun, Jace's mind (swiss cheese moments [vryn, the few times during agents of artifice, the 5-10 times in Ravnica... I swear at least 5 times during the Implicit maze timeline and the bolas squeeze]) is now restored. So all that potential, all that forgotten manipulation... ALL restored. That gives him power that he had over time... back ALL at once. Sadly disappointing on where he is in comparison and that his cards are nowhere close to his peak... despite story wise being more powerful than ever.... :/
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MTG Junky... First packs being a starter of each 4th Edition and Ice Age. Good Grief, I've been playing since 1995? Where does the time go!
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Edit: who also happens to be the same artist who did all five of the defeat cards in Hour, nice touch
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
I mean, it's Divination. People will still play it.
Would be amusing to see a standard deck with 4x of the new Kefnet, Divination, and Jace's Triumph.
Chandra: Does it involve thinking?
Jace: Lots.
So, Jace finds a way to turn Bolas' spark-stealing plan against him.
Bolas: YES! THE ABSOLUTE POWER! THE MULTIVERSE IS MINE TO COMMAND! TO CONTROL!
Jace: Not so fast, Bolas! Aren't you forgetting something!?
Bolas: WHAT?
Jace: You wanted to be a God? You got it!
*shackles appear over God-Bolas' wrists*
Bolas: WHAT!?
Jace: And everything that goes with it!
*suddenly, the Immortal Sun starts sucking Bolas in*
Bolas: NO! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Jace: Phenomenal cosmic power...
*Bolas is trapped within the Immortal Sun*
Jace:...itty bitty living space.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Your point isn't entirely wrong, but keep in mind that having a Jace planeswalker in play is a much easier criteria to hit than having 10 permanents. Having a 2U Mana cost vs a 1UU one is also slightly easier to hit, and as mentioned you can't entirely ignore Kefnet making this an Ancestral Recall.
All of that said, it's still not likely than not that we're not going to see this as a serious card in any constructed formats.
But yes, tell me more about how much better you are than Bolas, on principle.
Simple: Last time, he didn't use Bolas' power against him. Most likely by turning the Sparks into some form of trap. Oh, and there's also the fact the memory spell he cast on Vraska absolutely fooled Bolas. For that matter, Jace actually succeeded in breaking Bolas's mental barrier, if only for a moment, which is how he learned about Ixalan in the first place, allowing him to instintively walk there. Bolas has no idea Jace has been there the entire time. So, he's already outsmarted Bolas once. And he's about to do so twice, and hard.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Bolas and Jace both emptied their libraries and Jace won... Probably?
*Jace turns to camera: remember kids, taking over the world is totally not cool*
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Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
hahaha. nice one.
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Well, if you knew the answer to that, the card would be called 13055's Triumph instead of Jace's Triumph. Only Jace really understands why. Well, and the WotC story writers.
The flavor text does seem to indicate that Jace's Vraska plan doesn't actually work.
These comments are so much win.
Wasn't the planeswalk to Ixalan actually a failsafe that Ugin installed in Jace's mind to prevent Bolas from learning about him?