Ah yes, what we really needed is another freaking board wipe. It's not like there are three others in War of the Spark alone and 18 more in Standard outside of the set (even more if you count things that only deal 1 damage to everything). I feel like Arena will be more obnoxious than ever after the 25th.
I just imagine them telling everyone else their war means nothing to them, spouting a one or two word vulgarity at each other and then in unison yelling "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" as they jump at each other's throats.
Playability though, Other than the last line needing to be beginning of your next turn so you're the first do deploy new creatures outside of using Vivien or her bow, it's a better Tragic Arrogance than the White Gearhulk was.
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FFS. Did we really have to bring them to Ravnica just to start all the 'he said, she said' stuff again? It was bad enough having to deal with this crap last time around.
I really hate seeing Sorin - that cool as ice, 6000 year old, long-term thinking planeswalker - being reduced to a bickery schoolground kid.
Interesting. The sacrifice effect is a worse than Tragic Arrogance, where you could choose the permanents. This hits all planeswalker and creature at the same moment so they can only keep 1 of the two card types and doesn't effect Enchantments or Artifacts. The last line is powerful for some control setups or to add some time for you own planeswalker.
FFS. Did we really have to bring them to Ravnica just to start all the 'he said, she said' stuff again? It was bad enough having to deal with this crap last time around.
I really hate seeing Sorin - that cool as ice, 6000 year old, long-term thinking planeswalker - being reduced to a bickery schoolground kid.
I largely agree, but rather am tired of Nahiri. I love Sorin and his story and want to see more of him being a stoic badass and am upset when Nahiri (who I think is in the wrong) shows up and ruins stuff.
I have a "big dumb beater" Dakkon Blackblade equipment-voltron EDH deck, and I was thinking this might find a spot in there (Kinda like Tragic Arrogance). This one doesn't kill my equipment though.
I largely agree, but rather am tired of Nahiri. I love Sorin and his story and want to see more of him being a stoic badass and am upset when Nahiri (who I think is in the wrong) shows up and ruins stuff.
I agree entirely. What I meant was I hate the way they re-wrote Sorin's character in Shadows, giving him a petulance that was completely absent from his character before. He went from calm insouciance at the triviality of everyone's everyday worries to 'WAHH WAHH NAHIRI!' foot-stamping childishness. It was an abyssmal character assassination. I hold the SOI/EMN writers more to blame than Nahiri. And now they're continuing it here.
A planeswalker wrath was an inevitable safety valve of the walker set. Giving your opponent the initiative by having them have the next turn where a creature or walker can be played kinda sucks. It is an interesting pairing with the amass mechanic which is going to voltron together a giant army creature.
I have a "big dumb beater" Dakkon Blackblade equipment-voltron EDH deck, and I was thinking this might find a spot in there (Kinda like Tragic Arrogance). This one doesn't kill my equipment though.
That said, this may be a better fit for the Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas equipment-voltron build that I regularly disassemble and reassemble for fun.
Personally, I think they're both jackasses who deserve a major slice of humble pie. Oldwalkers think they can just play games of chess with the lives of "lower beings"; well how about somebody banishes them back to their home planes by stealing their sparks, leaving them trapped on their own worlds? And while they're at it, maybe finding a way to turn Sorin human so he can no longer use vampirism as an excuse to act like an aloof jerkass?
*Sigh* And to think, I used to like both these characters...
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Tiana: Jhoira? You're looking off into space again. Are you thinking about Teferi?
Jhoira: Yeah... I'm so jealous of him and his spark. Getting to go around the multiverse, helping people...
(meanwhile, on Ravnica)
Jace: Okay, so we're all gathered here, ready to defend..
Chandra: Yeah, but look at us, Jace. We're all like little kids compared to Bolas.
Jace: I thought of that. So I got two of the oldest planeswalkers to help out. Introduuuuuuuuuuciiiiiiiiiiiing... Drumroll?
(Half-hearted drumroll)
Jace: SORIN AND NAHIRI (gestures dramatically at two curtains, which raise simultaneously)
Nahiri: SORIN!?
Sorin: NAHIRI?!
(The entire area suddenly explodes with stone fragments and blood, covering all the planeswalkers. The two oldwalkers are nowhere to be found, but their battle echoes in the distance.)
Huatli: What just happened?
Jace: I... wasn't... expecting...
(Words cut off as Nahiri destroys six city blocks)
Teferi: (looking at Jaya) So, does it bother you that WE'RE the two most mature oldwalkers?
(Jaya nods, exasperated)
Gideon: So is there anyone else?
Jace: Um.... Ugin?
Chandra: The dragon that pretty much swore he'd unmake us the moment he saw us again?
Jace: Look, all things considered, its a miracle we've survived the last ten minutes, okay?
FFS. Did we really have to bring them to Ravnica just to start all the 'he said, she said' stuff again? It was bad enough having to deal with this crap last time around.
I really hate seeing Sorin - that cool as ice, 6000 year old, long-term thinking planeswalker - being reduced to a bickery schoolground kid.
His whole family is wiped out, Emrakul brought to his plane, Avacyn dead. Why shouldn’t he be angry?
FFS. Did we really have to bring them to Ravnica just to start all the 'he said, she said' stuff again? It was bad enough having to deal with this crap last time around.
I really hate seeing Sorin - that cool as ice, 6000 year old, long-term thinking planeswalker - being reduced to a bickery schoolground kid.
His whole family is wiped out, Emrakul brought to his plane, Avacyn dead. Why shouldn’t he be angry?
Weeellllll Avacyns unmaking was his doing. She just got crazy. He sold her for an army of vampires. The rest was Nahiri. While Emrakul invaded Innistrad after the unmaking of Avacyn. So maybe she was holding her back somehow.
But yeah if he has feelings than they should be triggered by that. Maybe Ugin can settle down the fight between them for the time they are in Ravnica.
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can't we all just get along
Good limited card... not entirely sure VERY useful
You mean UGIN
Playability though, Other than the last line needing to be beginning of your next turn so you're the first do deploy new creatures outside of using Vivien or her bow, it's a better Tragic Arrogance than the White Gearhulk was.
I really hate seeing Sorin - that cool as ice, 6000 year old, long-term thinking planeswalker - being reduced to a bickery schoolground kid.
I largely agree, but rather am tired of Nahiri. I love Sorin and his story and want to see more of him being a stoic badass and am upset when Nahiri (who I think is in the wrong) shows up and ruins stuff.
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I have a "big dumb beater" Dakkon Blackblade equipment-voltron EDH deck, and I was thinking this might find a spot in there (Kinda like Tragic Arrogance). This one doesn't kill my equipment though.
I agree entirely. What I meant was I hate the way they re-wrote Sorin's character in Shadows, giving him a petulance that was completely absent from his character before. He went from calm insouciance at the triviality of everyone's everyday worries to 'WAHH WAHH NAHIRI!' foot-stamping childishness. It was an abyssmal character assassination. I hold the SOI/EMN writers more to blame than Nahiri. And now they're continuing it here.
That said, this may be a better fit for the Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas equipment-voltron build that I regularly disassemble and reassemble for fun.
*Sigh* And to think, I used to like both these characters...
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
You just explained why oldwalkers are the best part about Magic.
Tiana: Jhoira? You're looking off into space again. Are you thinking about Teferi?
Jhoira: Yeah... I'm so jealous of him and his spark. Getting to go around the multiverse, helping people...
(meanwhile, on Ravnica)
Jace: Okay, so we're all gathered here, ready to defend..
Chandra: Yeah, but look at us, Jace. We're all like little kids compared to Bolas.
Jace: I thought of that. So I got two of the oldest planeswalkers to help out. Introduuuuuuuuuuciiiiiiiiiiiing... Drumroll?
(Half-hearted drumroll)
Jace: SORIN AND NAHIRI (gestures dramatically at two curtains, which raise simultaneously)
Nahiri: SORIN!?
Sorin: NAHIRI?!
(The entire area suddenly explodes with stone fragments and blood, covering all the planeswalkers. The two oldwalkers are nowhere to be found, but their battle echoes in the distance.)
Huatli: What just happened?
Jace: I... wasn't... expecting...
(Words cut off as Nahiri destroys six city blocks)
Teferi: (looking at Jaya) So, does it bother you that WE'RE the two most mature oldwalkers?
(Jaya nods, exasperated)
Gideon: So is there anyone else?
Jace: Um.... Ugin?
Chandra: The dragon that pretty much swore he'd unmake us the moment he saw us again?
Jace: Look, all things considered, its a miracle we've survived the last ten minutes, okay?
His whole family is wiped out, Emrakul brought to his plane, Avacyn dead. Why shouldn’t he be angry?
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Weeellllll Avacyns unmaking was his doing. She just got crazy. He sold her for an army of vampires. The rest was Nahiri. While Emrakul invaded Innistrad after the unmaking of Avacyn. So maybe she was holding her back somehow.
But yeah if he has feelings than they should be triggered by that. Maybe Ugin can settle down the fight between them for the time they are in Ravnica.