All the mythics are supposed to be very important to the story, so it makes sense. We're actually three mythics more (Gideon, Bolas, Niv) than we should be, because their role in the story hasn't come up yet.
Added the triumph cards (bolded Jace’s triumph since it’s confirmed and we know the number for it). Didn’t know it was a cycle. I’m still thinking we probably will get a Mythic in each color as well as the 4
Amonkhet Eternal Gods and MAYBE the Elder spell. I can see the Elder spell being Uncommon at this point. Again these are my guesses, if the mythics are more story geared I can see the amonkhet gods being rares and the mythics reserved for other cards. I don’t see the amonkhet gods getting a that much of a “pivotal point” in the story.
Added the triumph cards (bolded Jace’s triumph since it’s confirmed and we know the number for it). Didn’t know it was a cycle. I’m still thinking we probably will get a Mythic in each color as well as the 4
Amonkhet Eternal Gods and MAYBE the Elder spell. I can see the Elder spell being Uncommon at this point. Again these are my guesses, if the mythics are more story geared I can see the amonkhet gods being rares and the mythics reserved for other cards. I don’t see the amonkhet gods getting a that much of a “pivotal point” in the story.
oh no the gods will be mythic
they will probably end up with the same trick the 3 other gods had on hour of devastation or just be indestructable
"When (name) dies, return it to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next end step."
So there MAY be an error in the spoiler page. I counted 169 cards (without the BAB promo).
I regularly check the crunch to see if it runs concurrent to the visual spoiler page (which says 165 without the BAB) . I know I have 4 cards I put into the crunch not yet revealed since I know that they will be present (the 2 triumphs and the 2 other hybrids). That brings mine to 173. 173-4=169. I counted my crunch 3 times it is correct. I checked the spoiler page and counted 169 revealed cards. If someone can recount the card image gallery to make sure I’m not miscounting. Just figured I’d let people know. Don’t want the spoiler
Count to be off later.
Edit: nevermind I miscounted sorry for the troubles. Carry on. Just trying to be vigilant.
Including or excluding Domri? That hasn't been officially shown yet... maybe that's the missing multicolored?
Edit: I see his quote now:
"
There are twenty uncommon planeswalkers. Two five-card monocolor cycles and one ten-card hybrid cycle.
There are thirteen rare planeswalkers. Two colorless, five monocolored and six two-colored.
There are three mythic rare planeswalkers. Two monocolored and one three-colored.
There is one Buy-a-Box planeswalker. He is two-colored.
This is all off the top of my head, so I could be slightly off on something, but I think I have it right.
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That last sentence... makes me think this wasn't a reliable list. It doesn't sound like he was certain of its accuracy so we shouldn't be.
To me, the *sensible* breakdown is: two rare or one mythic per monocolor, and five 2-color. So 6 and 5 rather than his top-of-head 5 and 6. That he possibly tallied Tezzeret among the multicolored when doing a quick mental checklist and forgot entirely about whichever of Tamiyo/Narset is rare.
It also would seem weird to me that our early leaked image... would have had specifically five of the six 2-color planeswalkers. Why omit one?
It is feasible that MaRo provided incorrect information (he said so himself), which could mean that Tamiyo and Narset are both mono-blue. I'm operating under the assumption that he provided correct information.
As to why the leaked image provided the cards it did... we have no idea where these were sourced from. It's very likely that this was not an intentional set of cards. Why put Roalesk and Niv in the mix when everything else was walkers? Why spoil Karn but not Ugin? Why spoil all of the Gatewatch but not the other mono-colored rare walkers?
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That intrigued me because that would have meant we'd be getting a second Domri signature spell (or something like Domri's Demise).
But no, we're just off on the numbering there.
Still, they've really done a good job of spacing this all out. I think we're going to be seeing less cards per day (obvious, since there's only like 80 to go and we still have a week and a half), but I think some of them are going to be absolute Whammers, especially in a storyline context.
So we missing:
Selesnya 2 Uncommons
Boros 1 Uncommon
Azorius 1 Uncommon
Orzhov: 1 Uncommon and 1 rare/mythic
Gruul: 1 Uncommon
Simic: 1 rare/mythic
Golgari: 1 rare/mythic
Dimir: 1 Uncommon, 1/2 Rare/mythic
11 or 12 (without Tezz) cards left in my calculation
11 cards left in the multicolor section without the elder spell and Tamiyo. Tamiyo is most likely the missing simic rare. So it could be an balanced distribution. 2 Uncommon and 2 Rares for every color pair.
So we missing:
Selesnya 2 Uncommons
Boros 1 Uncommon
Azorius 1 Uncommon
Orzhov: 1 Uncommon and 1 rare/mythic
Gruul: 1 Uncommon
Simic: 1 rare/mythic
Golgari: 1 rare/mythic
Dimir: 1 Uncommon, 1/2 Rare/mythic
11 or 12 (without Tezz) cards left in my calculation
11 cards left in the multicolor section without the elder spell and Tamiyo. Tamiyo is most likely the missing simic rare. So it could be an balanced distribution. 2 Uncommon and 2 Rares for every color pair.
This makes sense actually! 20 rares, 20 uncommons, 3 mythics was what I think was going to be the breakdown (with 3 spells being more than 2 colors: Niv Mivet, Nicol Bolas, and The Elder spell). I feel the Elder spell will pretty much be a rare at this point switching off with the simic Mythic for whatever reason. I think the last cards are all gonna be Rare and not Mythic since it makes sense for the breakdown in my opinion.
Edit: I don’t see Tezz counting since they don’t normally count the BAB so I’d say 2 dimir rares are left.
Also I did some calculations and I think I got a rare card breakdown. We already have more than half the rares revealed and a little more than 15 to go (17 to be exact). Out of these here are my thoughts:
5 rares per color. The breakdown has us with:
5 in white (0 more white rare)
2 in blue (3 more blue rares)
3 in black (2 more black rares)
5 in red (0 more red rare....maybe red gets 6 rares if Sarkhan is monocolored)
4 in green (1 more green rares)
That leaves us with 6 monocolored rares.
In the multicolored I believe there are 20 rares. We have seen 14 so 6 more multicolored rares left!
That’s 12 rares.
We have Ugin left so that’s 13 rares.
Out of the remaining 4 (it is possible we will see a color misbalance (as it is some colors get more cards than others hence it’s hard to tie down an exact number but I’m thinking AROUND 5 for each color). I think we will definitely see a legendary rare artifact that’s tied to Bolas or something that’s rare (I’d be surprised not to...we already got a Bolas statue). We may get another rare land (doubtful imo since doesn’t seem like a lot of room for much more land and we already got 2 lanes).
I’m leaning toward some colors getting more rares than others and my thinking is wizards is Not counting Planeswalkers in the color rarities when looking at rares. So we may see an extra green, red, and blue rare. Hard to say right now. This is my best guess.
Those four by bolas are the original amonkhet gods eternalized
We’re getting a god cycle oketra, kefnet, Bontu and Rhonas eternalized are the other 4
I know we are getting the god cycle. I just don’t know if that red boat god is part of the god cycle or a separate cycle or both. That’s pretty much what I meant to say. Sorry if what I said sounded misleading. It’s possibly that we get a monocolored legendary creature Mythic Rare cycle and a god cycle and the red boar serves as a member of both cycles.
Also the gods are in the crunch as speculation as well. I know they’re in the set but namewise I’m unsure how they’ll be labeled (like Oketra god eternal or god eternal oketra).
186 and 187 are going to be Ashiok, and Ashiok's Signature Spell
Ashiok is the only hybrid Planeswalker that fits at 228. I don’t think he’ll be in the multicolored section. However, I can see an Ashiok spell at 186 or 187.
Given how close Red is to complete the approximate numbers in monoccolor should be:
2 Mythic | 6 Rare | 8 Uncommon | 20 Common (more or less, some will end up 1 card up or down)
5 Mythics will be in multicolor (I'm not expecting an artifact or land to end up catching mythic without a solid reason): Nicky B, Big Nivvy, Roalesk, and two other we don't have a confirm on at the moment.
If we remove Niv, Nicy, and the big bad spell of spark stealing, we're left with 40 Gold cards. The 2 Uncommon | 2 Rare/Mythic doesn't feel wrong, but...
This isn't a conventional "Guilds Matter" Ravnica so there isn't a need for complete cycle parity. If a color pair has less cards than another that's just- how it goes. This set is very much defined on what has to fit into the story.
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We got three triumph cards.
Check if the crunch can get a Nissa and Jace with that
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Amonkhet Eternal Gods and MAYBE the Elder spell. I can see the Elder spell being Uncommon at this point. Again these are my guesses, if the mythics are more story geared I can see the amonkhet gods being rares and the mythics reserved for other cards. I don’t see the amonkhet gods getting a that much of a “pivotal point” in the story.
oh no the gods will be mythic
they will probably end up with the same trick the 3 other gods had on hour of devastation or just be indestructable
"When (name) dies, return it to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next end step."
I regularly check the crunch to see if it runs concurrent to the visual spoiler page (which says 165 without the BAB) . I know I have 4 cards I put into the crunch not yet revealed since I know that they will be present (the 2 triumphs and the 2 other hybrids). That brings mine to 173. 173-4=169. I counted my crunch 3 times it is correct. I checked the spoiler page and counted 169 revealed cards. If someone can recount the card image gallery to make sure I’m not miscounting. Just figured I’d let people know. Don’t want the spoiler
Count to be off later.
Edit: nevermind I miscounted sorry for the troubles. Carry on. Just trying to be vigilant.
Edit 2: I see why both are different now this was never added to the visual spoiler: https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/808015-4-lords-of-limited-preview-cards
These 4 cards were added to the crunch hence the difference in what I was miscounting.
It is feasible that MaRo provided incorrect information (he said so himself), which could mean that Tamiyo and Narset are both mono-blue. I'm operating under the assumption that he provided correct information.
As to why the leaked image provided the cards it did... we have no idea where these were sourced from. It's very likely that this was not an intentional set of cards. Why put Roalesk and Niv in the mix when everything else was walkers? Why spoil Karn but not Ugin? Why spoil all of the Gatewatch but not the other mono-colored rare walkers?
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it would have ben 3 if bolas and niv weren't on the cards
the eternlized gods for another 4 of them
That intrigued me because that would have meant we'd be getting a second Domri signature spell (or something like Domri's Demise).
But no, we're just off on the numbering there.
Still, they've really done a good job of spacing this all out. I think we're going to be seeing less cards per day (obvious, since there's only like 80 to go and we still have a week and a half), but I think some of them are going to be absolute Whammers, especially in a storyline context.
As for the A/B rares we have GW, RG, BR, UR, WB, RW, and UW. Which means a Dimir, Golgari, Simic and Rakdos Rare.
We will se a 5 color cycle of gods
Ilharg Is playing the role of the red one
The recursion thing for the gods In this one is dies or exile put it third card from the top of library instead
If I count correctly the distribution at the moment is the following:
Selesnya:
Uncommon 0
Rare/Mythic 2 Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves, Ajani, the Greathearted
Boros:
Uncommon 1 Tenth District Legionnaire
Rare/Mythic 2 Feather, the Redeemed, Solar Blaze
Azorius:
Uncommon 1 Dovin's Veto
Rare/Mythic 2 Time Wipe, Teferi, Time Raveler
Orzhov:
Uncommon 1 Cruel Celebrant
Rare/Mythic 1 Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
Gruul:
Uncommon 1 Domri's Ambush
Rare/Mythic 2 Living Twister, Domri, Anarch of Bolas
Rakdos:
Uncommon 2 Angrath's Rampage, Mayhem Devil
Rare/Mythic 2 Widespread Brutality, Dreadhorde Butcher
Simic:
Uncommon 2 Neoform, Merfolk Skydiver
Rare/Mythic 1 Roalesk, Apex Hybrid
Izzet:
Uncommon 2 Ral's Outburst, Invade the City
Rare/Mythic 2 Role Reversal, Ral, Storm Conduit
Golgari:
Uncommon 2 Leyline Prowler, Deathsprout
Rare/Mythic 1 Storrev, Devkarin Lich
Dimir:
Uncommon 1 Gleaming Overseer
Rare/Mythic 1 Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge (if he counts)
So we missing:
Selesnya 2 Uncommons
Boros 1 Uncommon
Azorius 1 Uncommon
Orzhov: 1 Uncommon and 1 rare/mythic
Gruul: 1 Uncommon
Simic: 1 rare/mythic
Golgari: 1 rare/mythic
Dimir: 1 Uncommon, 1/2 Rare/mythic
11 or 12 (without Tezz) cards left in my calculation
11 cards left in the multicolor section without the elder spell and Tamiyo. Tamiyo is most likely the missing simic rare. So it could be an balanced distribution. 2 Uncommon and 2 Rares for every color pair.
Good estimation. I’d rather wait for more evidence on conformation. This Mythic can mean 1 of 2 things to me:
1. A god cycle with the red boar god being “Hazzoret” of the set.
2. A legendary monocolored Mythic Creature cycle (since he’s also legendary and this set feels more and more like Domanaria 2.0).
I feel 1 is more accurate but I’d rather wait and see another God revelation before confirming. Good observation on your part though!
This makes sense actually! 20 rares, 20 uncommons, 3 mythics was what I think was going to be the breakdown (with 3 spells being more than 2 colors: Niv Mivet, Nicol Bolas, and The Elder spell). I feel the Elder spell will pretty much be a rare at this point switching off with the simic Mythic for whatever reason. I think the last cards are all gonna be Rare and not Mythic since it makes sense for the breakdown in my opinion.
Edit: I don’t see Tezz counting since they don’t normally count the BAB so I’d say 2 dimir rares are left.
So far the cycle's 5 creatures and 3 spells, and given the colors left, I'm going to assume 2 more spells.
I wonder if Undermine could rejoin Absorb in standard? There's a spot for it at 225...
5 rares per color. The breakdown has us with:
5 in white (0 more white rare)
2 in blue (3 more blue rares)
3 in black (2 more black rares)
5 in red (0 more red rare....maybe red gets 6 rares if Sarkhan is monocolored)
4 in green (1 more green rares)
That leaves us with 6 monocolored rares.
In the multicolored I believe there are 20 rares. We have seen 14 so 6 more multicolored rares left!
That’s 12 rares.
We have Ugin left so that’s 13 rares.
Out of the remaining 4 (it is possible we will see a color misbalance (as it is some colors get more cards than others hence it’s hard to tie down an exact number but I’m thinking AROUND 5 for each color). I think we will definitely see a legendary rare artifact that’s tied to Bolas or something that’s rare (I’d be surprised not to...we already got a Bolas statue). We may get another rare land (doubtful imo since doesn’t seem like a lot of room for much more land and we already got 2 lanes).
I’m leaning toward some colors getting more rares than others and my thinking is wizards is Not counting Planeswalkers in the color rarities when looking at rares. So we may see an extra green, red, and blue rare. Hard to say right now. This is my best guess.
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And this photo
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Those four by bolas are the original amonkhet gods eternalized
We’re getting a god cycle oketra, kefnet, Bontu and Rhonas eternalized are the other 4
I know we are getting the god cycle. I just don’t know if that red boat god is part of the god cycle or a separate cycle or both. That’s pretty much what I meant to say. Sorry if what I said sounded misleading. It’s possibly that we get a monocolored legendary creature Mythic Rare cycle and a god cycle and the red boar serves as a member of both cycles.
Also the gods are in the crunch as speculation as well. I know they’re in the set but namewise I’m unsure how they’ll be labeled (like Oketra god eternal or god eternal oketra).
Ashiok is the only hybrid Planeswalker that fits at 228. I don’t think he’ll be in the multicolored section. However, I can see an Ashiok spell at 186 or 187.
2 Mythic | 6 Rare | 8 Uncommon | 20 Common (more or less, some will end up 1 card up or down)
5 Mythics will be in multicolor (I'm not expecting an artifact or land to end up catching mythic without a solid reason): Nicky B, Big Nivvy, Roalesk, and two other we don't have a confirm on at the moment.
If we remove Niv, Nicy, and the big bad spell of spark stealing, we're left with 40 Gold cards. The 2 Uncommon | 2 Rare/Mythic doesn't feel wrong, but...
This isn't a conventional "Guilds Matter" Ravnica so there isn't a need for complete cycle parity. If a color pair has less cards than another that's just- how it goes. This set is very much defined on what has to fit into the story.
They revealed Bontu
She has the exact same protection as Ilharg
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