I feel like we still need to resolve the Raven Man, so Lilly will live
I sooo wish you were right, but we literally saw her disintegrate in the video. There's no coming back from that, unless some time reversal is involved.
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I feel like we still need to resolve the Raven Man, so Lilly will live.
I sooo wish you were right, but we literally saw her disintegrate in the video. There's no coming back from that, unless some time reversal is involved.
We saw her start to disintegrate. She was still standing when the trailer ended, and the disintegration hadn't gotten any vital organs yet. There's still time for someone to intervene and save her.
or why bolas doesnt just make a bunch of walkers his sock puppets with mind control.
To be fair, I think it's implied that that sort of direct control requires a degree of concentration, so it's understandable that Bolas would prefer to keep most of his lackeys on leashes that don't require any direct attention to maintain.
We saw her start to disintegrate. She was still standing when the trailer ended, and the disintegration hadn't gotten any vital organs yet. There's still time for someone to intervene and save her.
To be fair, I think it's implied that that sort of direct control requires a degree of concentration, so it's understandable that Bolas would prefer to keep most of his lackeys on leashes that don't require any direct attention to maintain.
Any mind control magic can also be dispelled and broken.
Its much more convenient if they simply do what you want without the need of any magic.
So... 2 cases:
1) Gideon will save Liliana by using his shield magic (somehow) and she regenerates redescovering her powers as a healer.
2) WotC will get rid of her because her clothes were too revealing and she was too sexy.
I feel like we still need to resolve the Raven Man, so Lilly will live. Giddeon doesn't have much story reason to live though.
The Raven Man plot is never going to have a resolution that makes any sense, so them just killing off Liliana means they avoid that land mine and frankly if Liliana gets out of all of this deal BS Scott Free then it will quite frankly be revolting. Her being a "good guy" in the first place was absurd enough.
What I like most about this trailer is how... conceptually refined it is? Like, before, due to the "animated card art" format, we got snippets and snapshots of various scenes of the world or conflict. We were told explicitly what is happening in those trailers, because the card art was not made to serve the purpose to get across a cinematic idea.
But in this one, the whole trailer is done like a movie. No longer constrained by using existing card art, it has symbolism and stylistic choices that make it possible to analyze it and learn about the characters and the conflict. That's pretty impressive.
That's not to say it's the most amazing trailer I've ever seen. That'd be a tall order for a card game. But this trailer set a new bar for future magic trailers and it's very high.
I can see Lilana dying and being bought back with Time travel in an Avengers Endgame sort of way. I don’t want to be right on this but I can see it. I can see her being bought back free of Nicol Bolas contract and the chain Veil.
I can also see Bolas not dying either. The reason for this:
Why would Wizards want to kill off a start villain and a star Gatewatch member when they can use them for publicity in the future. I can see war ending with a bunch of non main walkers dying, Bolas fleeing from being overpowered, Niv Mizzet becoming the gatewatch after returning, and Jace staying on Ravinica with Vraska (unless they kill off Vraska).
Maybe I’m wrong (hopefully I am) this is my prediction and I would prefer a major plot twists! But if wizards is the “best way to keep making money” company they are with cards and only in for business, they’ll probably keep the story similar to what I wrote.
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Giddeon doesn't have much story reason to live though.
Aside from returning to Theros with Ajani to rescue Elspeth from the underworld and "say hi" to dear ol' dad. And Gideon's one of my favorite characters, they'd better not kill him anytime soon.
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Gideon was told by Oketra (Hazoret?) that he will meet his end by another god. And I'm not sure she considered Bolas a god. (Then again at the time she said it she did, so I dunno.)
It'd feel a little disappointing though, because from a player's perspective they expect Gideon to die to a "Legendary Creature - God" god, not a self-proclaimed one.
Giddeon doesn't have much story reason to live though.
Aside from returning to Theros with Ajani to rescue Elspeth from the underworld and "say hi" to dear ol' dad. And Gideon's one of my favorite characters, they'd better not kill him anytime soon.
There is also the fact that he has a very special design space in terms of his power set, turning into a creature to show of his "battle prowess" is something only Sarkhan has even gotten close to doing, Liliana..is quite frankly nothing special in that aspect as "Mono-black Necromancer" isn't remotely unique.
'killing off' pretty much translates to 'they are gone from the story until they arent' for open ended stories spanning years with multiple arcs. maybe they never bring bolas or whoever back, but WAR is the explicit end of the bolas v gatewatch arc; so characters going away or new ones being introduced for the next however many sets (ie years) should be expected. bolas in particular, while a very popularly used villain archetype, doesnt mean there arent others out there to be explored.
if liliana or bolas 'die' in this way that seems completely reasonable. especially in a period where wotc is trying to engage new players with arena; many of which have little to no emotional investment in or knowledge of either character.
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For those out of the loop, Linkin Park has been a meme for a long time as a posterchild for overly edgy music usually associated with people who are trying too hard to be dark/serious/intimidating. In The End is the second most memed of their songs behind Crawling.
And it's for that reason I was giggling through the entire trailer.
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The trailer was pretty kickass, except for the music. Gary Jules's version of "Mad World" would've been cool, or something with at least a little bit of subtlety.
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For those out of the loop, Linkin Park has been a meme for a long time as a posterchild for overly edgy music usually associated with people who are trying too hard to be dark/serious/intimidating. In The End is the second most memed of their songs behind Crawling.
And it's for that reason I was giggling through the entire trailer.
^ This. Honestly, for a split second I thought the seong was performed by Evanessence, who fit that same mold.
For those out of the loop, Linkin Park has been a meme for a long time as a posterchild for overly edgy music usually associated with people who are trying too hard to be dark/serious/intimidating. In The End is the second most memed of their songs behind Crawling.
And it's for that reason I was giggling through the entire trailer.
It was hard to take the trailer serious until I watched it again while the music was muted.
So... 2 cases:
1) Gideon will save Liliana by using his shield magic (somehow) and she regenerates redescovering her powers as a healer.
2) WotC will get rid of her because her clothes were too revealing and she was too sexy.
Or she lives in a withered lich-like physical form, doing away with the sexiness.
Cool, then she can join the lady in Peace of Mind and have fun reminiscing of the old days. That'd be an awesome epilogue
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i like linkin park, and i think they created some pretty good music in their time. i also thought the lyrical content and the version used fit pretty damn well.
tbh i find the proclivity of people to scoff at and express casual disdain for stuff like music or tastes in anything really as being edgy. to each their own
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i like linkin park, and i think they created some pretty good music in their time. i also thought the lyrical content and the version used fit pretty damn well.
tbh i find the proclivity of people to scoff at and express casual disdain for stuff like music or tastes in anything really as being edgy. to each their own
I don't dislike Linkin Park, I just found it a special level of "HELLO FELLOW CHILDREN" to do a cover of a song from 16 years ago for your "dark and emo" character. Especially when..the character in question really doesn't fit the Lyrics in her actions, her current situation is entirely because of her own complete stupidity.
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To be fair, I think it's implied that that sort of direct control requires a degree of concentration, so it's understandable that Bolas would prefer to keep most of his lackeys on leashes that don't require any direct attention to maintain.
Any mind control magic can also be dispelled and broken.
Its much more convenient if they simply do what you want without the need of any magic.
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The Raven Man plot is never going to have a resolution that makes any sense, so them just killing off Liliana means they avoid that land mine and frankly if Liliana gets out of all of this deal BS Scott Free then it will quite frankly be revolting. Her being a "good guy" in the first place was absurd enough.
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But in this one, the whole trailer is done like a movie. No longer constrained by using existing card art, it has symbolism and stylistic choices that make it possible to analyze it and learn about the characters and the conflict. That's pretty impressive.
That's not to say it's the most amazing trailer I've ever seen. That'd be a tall order for a card game. But this trailer set a new bar for future magic trailers and it's very high.
I can also see Bolas not dying either. The reason for this:
Why would Wizards want to kill off a start villain and a star Gatewatch member when they can use them for publicity in the future. I can see war ending with a bunch of non main walkers dying, Bolas fleeing from being overpowered, Niv Mizzet becoming the gatewatch after returning, and Jace staying on Ravinica with Vraska (unless they kill off Vraska).
Maybe I’m wrong (hopefully I am) this is my prediction and I would prefer a major plot twists! But if wizards is the “best way to keep making money” company they are with cards and only in for business, they’ll probably keep the story similar to what I wrote.
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Aside from returning to Theros with Ajani to rescue Elspeth from the underworld and "say hi" to dear ol' dad. And Gideon's one of my favorite characters, they'd better not kill him anytime soon.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
It'd feel a little disappointing though, because from a player's perspective they expect Gideon to die to a "Legendary Creature - God" god, not a self-proclaimed one.
There is also the fact that he has a very special design space in terms of his power set, turning into a creature to show of his "battle prowess" is something only Sarkhan has even gotten close to doing, Liliana..is quite frankly nothing special in that aspect as "Mono-black Necromancer" isn't remotely unique.
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if liliana or bolas 'die' in this way that seems completely reasonable. especially in a period where wotc is trying to engage new players with arena; many of which have little to no emotional investment in or knowledge of either character.
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^ This. Honestly, for a split second I thought the seong was performed by Evanessence, who fit that same mold.
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It was hard to take the trailer serious until I watched it again while the music was muted.
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Cool, then she can join the lady in Peace of Mind and have fun reminiscing of the old days. That'd be an awesome epilogue
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tbh i find the proclivity of people to scoff at and express casual disdain for stuff like music or tastes in anything really as being edgy. to each their own
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WCDeath and Taxes(sold)I don't dislike Linkin Park, I just found it a special level of "HELLO FELLOW CHILDREN" to do a cover of a song from 16 years ago for your "dark and emo" character. Especially when..the character in question really doesn't fit the Lyrics in her actions, her current situation is entirely because of her own complete stupidity.
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