Hexmadge and Dark Depths aside, I thin they will more likely go for a direct kill for black (Vraska's Contempt or Hero's Downfall style) rather than a counter removal and with a freezing effect for blue like a deep freeze that can also hit planeswalkers.
I would not be surprised if they reprinted Vraska's Contempt since it is soon going to rotate out, while planeswalkers are here to stay for a whole rotation.
To be honest I can see a spell that counters an ability from a planeswalker and drains their loyalty or deals them damage either as U, UB or UR. On the other hand, Repudiate // Replicate is currently a thing.
A card that removes counters is far from being impossible, but I wouldn't really count on it.
u dont have to make to many answers to planeswalkers if they are just crap
every creature is an answer to a planeswalker. i doubt that they will make "superfriends" a playable archtype in standard. it would slow down the pace of the game and usually thats somethn they at least try to avoid.
but when they will planeswalker removal, i highly think they will have planeswalkers with this ability. afterall its a war, so walkers should be able to handle walkers!
u dont have to make to many answers to planeswalkers if they are just crap
every creature is an answer to a planeswalker. i doubt that they will make "superfriends" a playable archtype in standard. it would slow down the pace of the game and usually thats somethn they at least try to avoid.
but when they will planeswalker removal, i highly think they will have planeswalkers with this ability. afterall its a war, so walkers should be able to handle walkers!
You may be underestimating the impact this will make, but you make a good point. Cards like Tormented Soul and Phantom Warrior are extremely useful against planeswalkers, and that is something we should expect for limited. I'm sure there will be some silver bullets too though.
i doubt that they will make "superfriends" a playable archtype in standard. it would slow down the pace of the game and usually thats somethn they at least try to avoid.
Esper control is already flirting with Superfriends status. If they make the planeswalkers in this set so weak that only 1 or 2 out of 36 are standard-playable, players will be outraged. You can’t sell a set with the promise of a million planeswalkers and then make them all suck. At that point, you simply don’t make the planeswalker set.
i doubt that they will make "superfriends" a playable archtype in standard. it would slow down the pace of the game and usually thats somethn they at least try to avoid.
Esper control is already flirting with Superfriends status. If they make the planeswalkers in this set so weak that only 1 or 2 out of 36 are standard-playable, players will be outraged. You can’t sell a set with the promise of a million planeswalkers and then make them all suck. At that point, you simply don’t make the planeswalker set.
Agreed. I think what they may do, even if some will dislike it, is let this standard pretty much be "superfriends" for a while, though obviously with a couple of answers. Then in subsequent sets release removal which doesn't seem incredibly relevant to that set, but trashes walkers. A bit like we got a few vehicle removal spells after vehicles had their reign Infernal reckoning,Smelt for instance, but probably not wait so long..
Part of me is excited to see another Sarkhan the other part is dreading it because I'm still pretty sure Nicol Bolas is gonna do a "totally not thanos we swear" and he will be part of it. If this is the last Sarkhan Vol it better be one I deem usable.
Edit: oh dear Ashiok. I hardly got to know ye...;_;
it's a shame we don't get the stained glass arts on the actual cards. it would have been fantastic!
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it's a shame we don't get the stained glass arts on the actual cards. it would have been fantastic!
This has been said, but bears repeating. They really missed an opportunity on that one. If they had just made these the prerelease foils, people would have loved it.
I can imagine what this would do to draft. Unless there's a stellar mythic or rare in it, first picks are probably going to be allocated to the PWs no matter which PW appears first. Unless it's like with RNA where you take the token by default and then pick.
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it's a shame we don't get the stained glass arts on the actual cards. it would have been fantastic!
This has been said, but bears repeating. They really missed an opportunity on that one. If they had just made these the prerelease foils, people would have loved it.
They where made after the set had been finished for the trailer.
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it's a shame we don't get the stained glass arts on the actual cards. it would have been fantastic!
This has been said, but bears repeating. They really missed an opportunity on that one. If they had just made these the prerelease foils, people would have loved it.
They where made after the set had been finished for the trailer.
Also, these arts are fine for a quick trailer, but as the article showed, when you can really look at them almost every one with a visible, human face looks really jarring because the face is super-realistic while the rest of the card isn't. I, frankly, am glad I won't have to look at most of these arts on cards through this format TBH.
u dont have to make to many answers to planeswalkers if they are just crap
every creature is an answer to a planeswalker. i doubt that they will make "superfriends" a playable archtype in standard. it would slow down the pace of the game and usually thats somethn they at least try to avoid.
but when they will planeswalker removal, i highly think they will have planeswalkers with this ability. afterall its a war, so walkers should be able to handle walkers!
You may be underestimating the impact this will make, but you make a good point. Cards like Tormented Soul and Phantom Warrior are extremely useful against planeswalkers, and that is something we should expect for limited. I'm sure there will be some silver bullets too though.
My bet:
"Ability Name" - This creature can't be blocked if attacking a planeswalker.
"Any amount of damage this creature deals to a planeswalker is enough to destroy it."
and
"Enchanted permanent can't use activated abilities unless they're mana abilities."
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I would not be surprised if they reprinted Vraska's Contempt since it is soon going to rotate out, while planeswalkers are here to stay for a whole rotation.
To be honest I can see a spell that counters an ability from a planeswalker and drains their loyalty or deals them damage either as U, UB or UR. On the other hand, Repudiate // Replicate is currently a thing.
A card that removes counters is far from being impossible, but I wouldn't really count on it.
every creature is an answer to a planeswalker. i doubt that they will make "superfriends" a playable archtype in standard. it would slow down the pace of the game and usually thats somethn they at least try to avoid.
but when they will planeswalker removal, i highly think they will have planeswalkers with this ability. afterall its a war, so walkers should be able to handle walkers!
You may be underestimating the impact this will make, but you make a good point. Cards like Tormented Soul and Phantom Warrior are extremely useful against planeswalkers, and that is something we should expect for limited. I'm sure there will be some silver bullets too though.
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Esper control is already flirting with Superfriends status. If they make the planeswalkers in this set so weak that only 1 or 2 out of 36 are standard-playable, players will be outraged. You can’t sell a set with the promise of a million planeswalkers and then make them all suck. At that point, you simply don’t make the planeswalker set.
Agreed. I think what they may do, even if some will dislike it, is let this standard pretty much be "superfriends" for a while, though obviously with a couple of answers. Then in subsequent sets release removal which doesn't seem incredibly relevant to that set, but trashes walkers. A bit like we got a few vehicle removal spells after vehicles had their reign Infernal reckoning,Smelt for instance, but probably not wait so long..
Edit: oh dear Ashiok. I hardly got to know ye...;_;
I mean, Hexmage already exists, dark depths is already banned in modern, and I doubt a 2nd hexmage is gonna suddenly break the deck in legacy.
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They where made after the set had been finished for the trailer.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Also, these arts are fine for a quick trailer, but as the article showed, when you can really look at them almost every one with a visible, human face looks really jarring because the face is super-realistic while the rest of the card isn't. I, frankly, am glad I won't have to look at most of these arts on cards through this format TBH.
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My bet:
"Ability Name" - This creature can't be blocked if attacking a planeswalker.
Teysa, Orzhov Scion
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
Feather, the Redeemed
Skullbriar, the Walking Grave
Tatyova, Benthic Druid
Rowan Kenrith&Will Kenrith
Or cards like Aether Snap and spot versions
Or only removing x counters from a target opponent controls