BFZ block had Ugin and Jace in the Story and card arts, but no Planeswalker card.
SOI block had Gideon, Chandra and Nissa, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
KLD block had Jace, Gideon and Liliana, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
AKH block had Jace and Chandra, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
DOM had Gideon and Liliana (and glimpses of Jace, Ajani and Bolas), but no Planeswalker card of any of them.
I am sure the story will have tons of planeswalkers in it. But I don't think they would overflow the set with planeswalker cards. There are other ways to show the alliance against Bolas.
The question of who would get the spark other than Bolas, maybe not a who, but a what...we know Jhoira was able to capture Teferi's spark, what if she made a bigger one of those things and gave the spark to the Weatherlight? That way the storyline can move away from Gatewatch and focus on the Weatherlight crew with a newly re-sparked ship.
Don't y'all worry. The good guys (Gatewatch and company) will win and none of them will die, and the bad guys (Bolas' underlings) will lose and die... because why would Bolas kill them himself to harvest their sparks if he can get somebody else to do the dirty work for him? V=
And *after* he's powered up by obtaining the sparks of the others, *maybe* then a good guy or two may fall.
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BFZ block had Ugin and Jace in the Story and card arts, but no Planeswalker card.
SOI block had Gideon, Chandra and Nissa, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
KLD block had Jace, Gideon and Liliana, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
AKH block had Jace and Chandra, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
DOM had Gideon and Liliana (and glimpses of Jace, Ajani and Bolas), but no Planeswalker card of any of them.
I am sure the story will have tons of planeswalkers in it. But I don't think they would overflow the set with planeswalker cards. There are other ways to show the alliance against Bolas.
I say Jace and Bolas will obviously get cards and anyone who is losing their card thanks to rotation has good odds
For the city in ruins thing that’s without of doubt inconclusive information since there’s quite a few areas in ravnica already in ruins before bolas even arrived
And i will be shocked if bolas wins this as I shocked I mean I have very little doubt the good guys will win and it could go either way for bolas either he dies or just retreats and we will have a card that will be phase two of Induced Amnesia (jace giving Vraskas memory back)
Oh that’s part of the reason why I’m sure team good will win Vraska will cause her guild to sudden switch sides kaya will probably get the truth about bolas and orzhov switches sides dovin gets overthrown somehow azorius seitches sides if niv comes back out of hiding when he knows it’s going well ral will loose his Guildmaster status and Izzet switches sides I have no idea for gruul though maybe their old Guildmaster returns or something.
Honestly, a timeshifted sheet of PWs for this set is just not in the cards, as planeswalkers. However, PWs themselves are not the only way to increase the as-fan of PW stuff in a set. In particular, they could create a timeshifted sheet of PWs and 'PW matters' cards. E.g., all of the Oaths would be on the sheet, as well as, say, PW deck cards from previous sets. (The ones that want a PW type, like 'Liliana'.) I really doubt that they would print that many PWs that it needs an entire sheet.
I could easily see every Mythic in the set being a PW, though.
I imagine they will give us lots of Planeswalkers to play with in this set. I think the idea of one Planeswalker per pack is a solid idea. I doubt they will go for the reprint route. What they will likely do is make one Planeswalker card for each major character but cost them one mana above what would make the individual cards solid for constructed play. So something between a normal Mythic Planeswalker and a Planeswalker Deck Planeswalker. That way they are still solid for limited play but lack an inherent danger of warping the standard meta around one or two of them.
Reprinting the PW Deck cards would be better than making more purposedly underpowered cards and have the added benefit of printing a non-foil version of those cards for people to collect.
I'm going to echo the sentiment that we won't get a timeshifted sheet of planeswalkers. After using the mythic editions to sell reprints of planeswalkers, giving them out "for free" in each pack would create TONS of bad will toward WotC. Honestly, I don't see how Wizards could possibly make a more planeswalker-ish set than Dominaria (where legendary spells and historic interact with walkers) without ruining limited.
What I do predict, however, is a bunch of cards that mention planeswalkers by name. That basic land might be replaced by Liliana's Reaver, Gideon's Reproach, or Tezzeret's Gambit, for example (allowing wizards to show off small snippets of the greater war) There might be a couple of walkers on the sheet but I expect that players are at least as likely to open Chandra's Phoenix as they are an actual Chandra.
Actually, the 'planeswalker in every pack' idea could work with just the previously printed planeswalker deck walkers, including the new Dovin and Domri. Almost all the story-relevant ones have had a planeswalker deck already. WotC would only need to omit multiples (picking the most interesting iteration of Chandra, etc), and swap out Huatli and Angrath for new cards of Kaya, Jaya, and Karn. There may be mechanical issues with this, though. Off the top of my head, Liliana, Death Wielder uses -1/-1 counters, so they'd have to use Liliana, the Necromancer.
Gideon is standing up to Bolas, but can't handle the Blackblade, suddenly Garruk shows up out of nowhere, takes the Blackblade and runs Gideon through with it, then tackles Bolas.
It's time for Garruk to make a violent return to the story.
Regardless of who may or may not die, I think there is a higher issue here.
Presumably, Bolas's plan boils down to:
1) Create oldwalker spark.
2) Get oldwalker spark.
3) Profit.
Replace 'oldwalker spark' with 'very much more powerful spark' if you don't think that an oldwalker spark can or will be made.
Regardless, the best plan is to stop 1, because 1 stops 2. However, if that cannot be done, and the Gatewatch & Co. can only stop 2 (that is, the spark is created but Bolas doesn't get it)… what do you do with it? If anyone you give it to would become on par with an oldwalker in power, that's an awful amount of power.
That would lead to a huge MacGuffin to fight over.
Something else I've thought of is that we know one plane where PWs can die and at least 'stick around' if not keep their sparks: Theros, with Elspeth. Currently, my bet is that Liliana will indeed turn on Bolas at a key moment in the war, and Bolas sics the contract on her, which would presumably age her to her 'correct' age and (possibly) depower her somewhat. (We literally don't know everything involved in her contract.) Teferi intervenes and puts her in a slow-time bubble to prevent her death, and Gideon and Ajani (and possibly Teferi) bring her to Theros, where she descends into the Underworld. All of this may possibly be part of an effort to get back Elspeth or not.
Don't forget about what we have learned with Children of the Nameless - about the Entities and stuff. Bolas' plan might well be to collapse Ravnica - along with any planeswalkers trapped there by the Immortal Sun - and claim the resulting Entity for himself.
From what the author and mtg have said about make the novel I doubt will see anything from Children of the Nameless for another 3-5 years. Most of the story was Sanderson own original work and ideas, so I think its too soon to see that enter the main storyline.
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I'm betting Ugin swoops in and helps. They did so much set up between him and Nicol(including telling us they are twin brothers) and we both know Ugin is the original/oldest planeswalker in the multiverse(that we know of)
This would be a good time to revisit proliferate if they decide to go planeswalker heavy. It's a great complement to the cards in GRN/RNA too.
Dear god. I can't tell whether that would be impossibly fun or horribly busted.
It might even be necessary. As much as planeswalkers can be silly in regular magic, a ton of people play Commander, and in Commander they're really just overcosted mediocre sorceries or enchantments that are too easy to move off the board. They're the sort of Timmy/Vorthos magnet that begs to be played in EDH while simultaneously being somewhat unplayable in EDH. And they get printed at a rarity which is bizzare from the EDH player perspective.
There just isn't an affordable mechanic that plays well with them other than proliferate, and that was used on way too few cards. It's not likely to be revisited as originaly printed because of how it affects any number of permanents. But if the next set really is the big Planeswalker policy overhaul set we might very likely see more stuff along the lines of Skyship Plunderer .
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This would be a good time to revisit proliferate if they decide to go planeswalker heavy. It's a great complement to the cards in GRN/RNA too.
In a recent podcast (can't remember which exactly) MaRo said that Proliferate was considered multiple times for sets in the last years, but was deemed to bee too strong every time. I really doubt that we would see that mechanic now with Simic and Gruul coming up, god forbid in a planeswalker-heavy set. That would be busted as all hell.
BFZ block had Ugin and Jace in the Story and card arts, but no Planeswalker card.
SOI block had Gideon, Chandra and Nissa, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
KLD block had Jace, Gideon and Liliana, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
AKH block had Jace and Chandra, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
DOM had Gideon and Liliana (and glimpses of Jace, Ajani and Bolas), but no Planeswalker card of any of them.
I am sure the story will have tons of planeswalkers in it. But I don't think they would overflow the set with planeswalker cards. There are other ways to show the alliance against Bolas.
Well, they could always just pick five to use as pack walkers, one of each color. Gideon, Jace, Liliana, Chandra, and Vivien, perhaps?
Another option for, say, Sealed is that they include a planeswalker in every sealed box, so you'll always have a planeswalker to build around.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I get the feeling this is going to be Magic the Gathering's answer to Infinity War like how Battlebond was Magic's answer to Overwatch/Battleborn/Fortnite, Kaladesh was the answer to the Star Wars hype, and the Gatewatch as a whole are their answer to the Avengers and the Justice League. The main difference is there's a spark instead of a gauntlet and Nicol Bolas will only destroy half of Ravnica rather than the universe. We get it Wizards, you guys watch lots of movies and play lots of video games
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SOI block had Gideon, Chandra and Nissa, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
KLD block had Jace, Gideon and Liliana, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
AKH block had Jace and Chandra, but no Planeswalker card for any of them.
DOM had Gideon and Liliana (and glimpses of Jace, Ajani and Bolas), but no Planeswalker card of any of them.
I am sure the story will have tons of planeswalkers in it. But I don't think they would overflow the set with planeswalker cards. There are other ways to show the alliance against Bolas.
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And *after* he's powered up by obtaining the sparks of the others, *maybe* then a good guy or two may fall.
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I say Jace and Bolas will obviously get cards and anyone who is losing their card thanks to rotation has good odds
For the city in ruins thing that’s without of doubt inconclusive information since there’s quite a few areas in ravnica already in ruins before bolas even arrived
And i will be shocked if bolas wins this as I shocked I mean I have very little doubt the good guys will win and it could go either way for bolas either he dies or just retreats and we will have a card that will be phase two of Induced Amnesia (jace giving Vraskas memory back)
Oh that’s part of the reason why I’m sure team good will win Vraska will cause her guild to sudden switch sides kaya will probably get the truth about bolas and orzhov switches sides dovin gets overthrown somehow azorius seitches sides if niv comes back out of hiding when he knows it’s going well ral will loose his Guildmaster status and Izzet switches sides I have no idea for gruul though maybe their old Guildmaster returns or something.
I could easily see every Mythic in the set being a PW, though.
What I do predict, however, is a bunch of cards that mention planeswalkers by name. That basic land might be replaced by Liliana's Reaver, Gideon's Reproach, or Tezzeret's Gambit, for example (allowing wizards to show off small snippets of the greater war) There might be a couple of walkers on the sheet but I expect that players are at least as likely to open Chandra's Phoenix as they are an actual Chandra.
It's time for Garruk to make a violent return to the story.
From what the author and mtg have said about make the novel I doubt will see anything from Children of the Nameless for another 3-5 years. Most of the story was Sanderson own original work and ideas, so I think its too soon to see that enter the main storyline.
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German name is Krieg der Funken (War of the SparkS)...
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This would be a good time to revisit proliferate if they decide to go planeswalker heavy. It's a great complement to the cards in GRN/RNA too.
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Dear god. I can't tell whether that would be impossibly fun or horribly busted.
It might even be necessary. As much as planeswalkers can be silly in regular magic, a ton of people play Commander, and in Commander they're really just overcosted mediocre sorceries or enchantments that are too easy to move off the board. They're the sort of Timmy/Vorthos magnet that begs to be played in EDH while simultaneously being somewhat unplayable in EDH. And they get printed at a rarity which is bizzare from the EDH player perspective.
There just isn't an affordable mechanic that plays well with them other than proliferate, and that was used on way too few cards. It's not likely to be revisited as originaly printed because of how it affects any number of permanents. But if the next set really is the big Planeswalker policy overhaul set we might very likely see more stuff along the lines of Skyship Plunderer .
In a recent podcast (can't remember which exactly) MaRo said that Proliferate was considered multiple times for sets in the last years, but was deemed to bee too strong every time. I really doubt that we would see that mechanic now with Simic and Gruul coming up, god forbid in a planeswalker-heavy set. That would be busted as all hell.
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Well, they could always just pick five to use as pack walkers, one of each color. Gideon, Jace, Liliana, Chandra, and Vivien, perhaps?
Another option for, say, Sealed is that they include a planeswalker in every sealed box, so you'll always have a planeswalker to build around.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Proliferate most likely won’t show up till we see the phyrexians again.