She's one for the sideboard. When she's hot, she's hot, and when she doesn't have targets she's kind of a big nothing. Still, nice to see an outside-the-box PW with a bunch of internal synergy.
Sideboard card at best. Used against Izzet to exile their Jump-Start cards and Phoenixes. +1/+1/-5 could be lethal if they exiled a few cards themselves.
I have no idea what's the point of her second ability...
um.. that would require them to have 20 cards in exile for that to be lethal... you would need to use her 10 times before she becomes lethal.. most likely you are looking at 5-6 damage unless you wait late game...
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um.. that would require them to have 20 cards in exile for that to be lethal... you would need to use her 10 times before she becomes lethal.. most likely you are looking at 5-6 damage unless you wait late game...
Yes, that's what I meant: she could push for 4-10 damage against that deck in the late game.
Sideboard card at best. Used against Izzet to exile their Jump-Start cards and Phoenixes. +1/+1/-5 could be lethal if they exiled a few cards themselves.
I have no idea what's the point of her second ability...
Well, at 1 there are quite a few artifacts that matter in several formats.. 3 mana to exile Aether Vial seems awkward. At 0 the inly things I can see are the odd mana rock, tokens or Kobolds.
Her -1 is relavant against most modern decks, and can be done three times. She's no liliana, but she's OK agaist somne specific decks du to the fact she exiles. Against KCI or lantern, she'd be doing work. Funny that she can take on Marit Lage.
Orzhov likes attrition. Heck, it gets some of the best removal in the game. Not to mention it encourages sac strategies. Oh, and let's not forget mass graveyard exile effects like Tormod's Crypt. I think people here are drastically underestimating her.
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MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
This card is a not a great look. That said, I am the kind of man who wants to make bad or situational cards work, so I'm keen on the challenge. Maybe as the finisher in a slow, grindy control shell? Hmmm. She does synergize with other exile effects, which WB excel at? There might be something there for casual players like me to build around, but I'm not seeing it yet. Could find use in Ayli as a finisher? A lot of WB effects exile, so I don't think Kaya is completely trash, just a challenge to make work. Kudos to people who will.
But while I'm here, her second ability is basically useless. Even when there is a viable target, I'm not sure it's worth spending even 1 loyalty on. It could have been worth 0 or even a second +1 and still been a mediocre ability. What the hell were they thinking????
+1 could be useful on the sideboard, considering three guilds do things with graveyards this time around.
-1 seems odd. It's like it's aimed at token decks. But, if you're playing tokens, you couldn't care less about one token.
-5 is supposed to tie the first two abilities together. But seriously, other than right after Sadistic Sacrament or Nihil Spellbomb or something like that, why?
2/10 This could almost be good in EDH, where the -1 would be a giant middle finger to everyone's favorite Sol Ring and the +1 could hit the graveyard. Too bad there are more efficient ways to do both.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
This card is so oddly specific that there must be something else in the set that puts her into a better light. Blood Operative also happens to interact with the graveyard which is a bit odd. If that isn't the case then yeah she is pretty bad.
Maybe WotC thought Undergrowth would turn out more powerful and designed these as some hosers? I don't know.
I can target myself, so if I find a way to make the ultimate symetrical (whenever I lose life, each opponent loses that much life), I can actually build a wincon around her. MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
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Pioneer - A bunch of stuff Modern - Humans Legacy - Grixis Phoenix / Death & Taxes
I can target myself, so if I find a way to make the ultimate symetrical (whenever I lose life, each opponent loses that much life), I can actually build a wincon around her. MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
Stuff your deck full of bears (particularly ones with Afterlife), and what do aggro decks do? If they attack, you trade and then exile their creature, gaining life. And if they don't continue attacking, you CAN eat your own creatures in graveyard to gain more life.
And this is not mentioning what she does to Surveil/Undergrowth/Afterlife/Kick-Start.
She may be niche, hyper-specialized even, but she is incredibly destructive in that area.
Sideboard card at best. Used against Izzet to exile their Jump-Start cards and Phoenixes. +1/+1/-5 could be lethal if they exiled a few cards themselves.
I have no idea what's the point of her second ability...
Well, at 1 there are quite a few artifacts that matter in several formats.. 3 mana to exile Aether Vial seems awkward. At 0 the inly things I can see are the odd mana rock, tokens or Kobolds.
Not sure of the source.
Card looks mediocre as hell.
This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
I have no idea what's the point of her second ability...
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
I can't get ovet how bad this is
Yes, that's what I meant: she could push for 4-10 damage against that deck in the late game.
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
Well, at 1 there are quite a few artifacts that matter in several formats.. 3 mana to exile Aether Vial seems awkward. At 0 the inly things I can see are the odd mana rock, tokens or Kobolds.
Sideboard hate for Phoenix decks?? lol I dont know on this one.
Spirits
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
This card is a not a great look. That said, I am the kind of man who wants to make bad or situational cards work, so I'm keen on the challenge. Maybe as the finisher in a slow, grindy control shell? Hmmm. She does synergize with other exile effects, which WB excel at? There might be something there for casual players like me to build around, but I'm not seeing it yet. Could find use in Ayli as a finisher? A lot of WB effects exile, so I don't think Kaya is completely trash, just a challenge to make work. Kudos to people who will.
But while I'm here, her second ability is basically useless. Even when there is a viable target, I'm not sure it's worth spending even 1 loyalty on. It could have been worth 0 or even a second +1 and still been a mediocre ability. What the hell were they thinking????
Archatmos
Excellion
Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains
-1 seems odd. It's like it's aimed at token decks. But, if you're playing tokens, you couldn't care less about one token.
-5 is supposed to tie the first two abilities together. But seriously, other than right after Sadistic Sacrament or Nihil Spellbomb or something like that, why?
2/10 This could almost be good in EDH, where the -1 would be a giant middle finger to everyone's favorite Sol Ring and the +1 could hit the graveyard. Too bad there are more efficient ways to do both.
On phasing:
Burgeoning, Exploration, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt
Maybe WotC thought Undergrowth would turn out more powerful and designed these as some hosers? I don't know.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
Stuff your deck full of bears (particularly ones with Afterlife), and what do aggro decks do? If they attack, you trade and then exile their creature, gaining life. And if they don't continue attacking, you CAN eat your own creatures in graveyard to gain more life.
And this is not mentioning what she does to Surveil/Undergrowth/Afterlife/Kick-Start.
She may be niche, hyper-specialized even, but she is incredibly destructive in that area.
Then again I am glad they did not churn out another extremely pushed 3 mana walker like Liliana of the Veil
Not that it makes this viable, but since X's in permanents' cost lines are counted as zeroes... This makes Walking Ballista unload, makes Hangarback Walker go away without scrambling the air force, makes Engineered Explosives a now-or-never, makes Chalice of the Void go away...