While it's a little sad to see that Adapt is a functional reprint of Monstrosity, I like that Simic (at least from looking at Aeromunculus) seems to be returning to its old, freakish ways. I really disliked the direction the lore took with Simic in Return to Ravnica block, where Simic became a slightly less boring Selesnya. Seeing a Homunculus Mutant made me happy.
As someone who mostly is looking for cards for my cube--
I am neutral on Spectacle. It's got a bit more going on than Bloodthirst, and Light up the Stage isn't bad.
Afterlife looks awesome for cube. Everything with it is automatically in a place full of synergy. Tithe Taker is a decent filler two-drop that feeds into a good archetype.
Adapt doesn't look promising. It gives an earlier card late-game action, but I don't see that much coming from it. Zeganna is unexciting.
We're starved for good UG cards, so I still have high hopes for some fun stuff. Caring about +1/+1 counters is well and good, but I'm much more interested in the Prophet of Kruphix, Coiling Oracle, and Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix part of UG's slice of the color-pie.
For a great many limited decks, the answer to the question ‘would you like to be swinging with a 3/4 flyer on turn 4, requiring no combination of cards nor risk of being two-for-oned on card advantage?’ ... the answer is yes.
Fair enough I simply could not give **** about limited but ignoring that I am just saying marketing wise I wouldn't be opening my spoiler season with a card that is quite clearly trash in Standard and kindling in other formats.
4 mana for ONE, I say ONE +1/+1 counter. That you can do ONCE. What are they smoking at WotC?
It's a common. It is probably gonna be a very good limited card but it is hard for netdeckers to evaluate cards so don't be too hard on yourself.
I said the mechanic is trash, not the creature. Its insanely overcosted for a paltry one time nigh on useless counter. Its a garbage Draft only mechanic, it blows. Keep your netdeck insult to yourself and check the upvote count, you'll find real answer.
I wouldn't be opening my spoiler season with a card that is quite clearly trash in Standard and kindling in other formats.
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They introduced the mechanics of Guilds with Deadly Visit, Sonic Assault, Moodmark Painter, and Hammer Dropper. Showing mechanically simple draft commons with little to no standard/constructed implications to demonstrate the mechanics - is what they do. It’s what they always do. That they continue to do so is hardly worth railing against now.
When they introduced the aether revolt mechanic ‘revolt’ they used Decommission, Night Market Aeronaut, and Silkweaver Elite. They didn’t come out with Fatal Push as their mechanics example to double as a show off of their constructed-caliber card. Because that’s not how they work.
Often when they make a multi-format staple they do it on purpose, and they're not gonna rub it in everyone's nose immediately. This lets folks who catch onto something get some head-start with it before it becomes public knowledge.
Still, the common flier looks outrageously meh. Key word is "looks". It's like a card with kicker which you don't have to wait for until you have mana to both cast it and kick it. Back when kicker first came out, the common cycle of stuff had kickers about this high - 3 and 4, for very little gain. Arguably the power level was a bit lower overall, but this mechanic is stronger than kicker, and noone will mind being able to dump some mana at the end of the opponent's turn to shorten the clock on a flier which they would play in limited anyway. And with Llanowar Elves in the format, whether this little thing is standard playable or not isn't that clear cut.
There's a bit of a ceiling on the mechanic depending on whether there are any dudes which evolve for costs other than mana. A guy who would evolve for the price of bouncing another dude back to your hand could be pretty good - if naturally evasive, then really good.
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"Masques Block is the worst block ever! There's not one decent card in there! The whole internet say's so, you're literally the only person who ever said it was good!" - random noob in a conversation with an Eldrazi.
4 mana for ONE, I say ONE +1/+1 counter. That you can do ONCE. What are they smoking at WotC?
It's a common. It is probably gonna be a very good limited card but it is hard for netdeckers to evaluate cards so don't be too hard on yourself.
He obviously was taking about competetive constructed. You could have easily made your point that it is a strong draft card without resorting to personal attacks.
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So with Zegana at rare, that could mean the mythic legend is the new guildmaster. There is an art for the booster packs featuring an elf that holds not just a vial with the Simic symbol, but she also holds a trident. The trident looks exactly like the one Zegana sported in her RtR art. So maybe Zegana stepped down or there was a vote of no confidence or a take over. Either way, my bet is that it'll be that elf that's the guildmaster now.
I hope is not that elf woman. So boring looking. Come on, where are the freaks and mutants from Simic? Instead we are getting another Izoni and Etrata character.
The Simic are a scientific community, so it'd be very believeable if their leaders changed rather regularly. Leader positions involve a lot of paperwork and take up a lot of time one could use for research, so the speakers probably rotate and take sabbaticals with varying lengths.
So I'm hoping they save the best for last. (Gruul mechanic on Friday) Throw the RG mage a bone WotC. I'll try to stay optimistic.
Afterlife is my favorite of those spoiled so far. I think it will have some Constructed implications, albeit small ones.
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I hope is not that elf woman. So boring looking. Come on, where are the freaks and mutants from Simic? Instead we are getting another Izoni and Etrata character.
WotC thinks players don't like non human like races in magic....
I mean, thats dumb, wotc desing dep is dumb, i really wanted the old (from 1994-2012) people could voice. I mean, before we got "look at those new races" as a promotion for sets. Now we get "what the gatewatch will do in this new plane with lots and lots and lots of characters with human looking characteristics?"
Feels like the shortened cultural attention span of society these days more than anything...
On another note, I want to see more Azra.
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I like the Azra, and I was sad we didn't get some awesome Cephalids in Dominaria. I mean, ever since the Kraul have been a thing, why can't we get some really good Krauls to play. The closest thing we've gotten is Kraul Harpooner.
New Zegana is also an example of a card that shows how the synergy can cut both ways at the same time - drawing a card for a cheaper creature with graft and taking the single +1/+1 counter early on despite the fact that it costs adapt, because it turns her into a 5/5 trampler. It's clearly tesion, but the cards as whole can positively synergize even if the named mechanics themselves don't.
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Lol at these peeps and their reactions to the mechanic reveal.
WOTC is a business, no? Above all else, they’re in this for the money. This is basic marketing people...
If they dropped all of the good stuff now, what would you talk about for the next few weeks until the set actually releases? Guess what though, you are talking about it now, even though this reveal is lackluster. It keeps you thinking about the set, and money in your wallet, just long enough that any of those “other hobbies” MTG competes with in your budget get pushed off until the whole set drops.
Haven’t you ever watched a movie trailer?
Sorry, the “outrage” and hyperbole that pops up every damn spoiler season is tiresome.
Anyways... on topic.
While the adapt reveals are a little uninteresting, I’m curious to see the pay-off cards. Maybe some sort of counter manipulation theme. The investment to adapt seems high, but it’s repeatable. I’ll wait to see the uncommons before passing judgement.
Afterlife is pretty nifty. Not too much to say about it, a creature that replaces itself, good stuff.
I’m pumped to see Gruul. Hopefully something really savage.
Who said all the good stuff but surely they got a better card with a cheaper ability cost and more interesting payoff for pumping the mana. That thing aint even standard playable.
Whereas Zegama is playable (assuming its worth playing Bant or Sultai or Temur) but not exactly exciting for commander
Let's not forget that the two colour decks from GRN mostly haven't been totally defined by guild mechanics, just supported by them. For example, Boros is an aggro deck, and mentor works well in that deck, but I wouldn't say we have a "mentor deck." Same with jump-start: Izzet decks are spellslingery decks that get there with drakes and arclights. Jump-start plays well in those decks, but they're not "jump-start decks". The only real exception is the occasional surveil deck you see floating around, enabled by like two cards that care specifically about surveil. It's early to call it, but based on the four cards we have so far it seems like Simic will basically want to a ramp/midrange deck, maybe with an emphasis on doing stuff at instant speed. You ramp into big mana, leave said big mana up for interaction (heck, with Growth Spiral, you can leave mana up and ramp at the same time) then dump it into adapt creatures if you don't need to interact. Add in a few flash creatues (which doesn't seem like a crazy ask in UG) and you've got a fun deck.
Lol at these peeps and their reactions to the mechanic reveal.
WOTC is a business, no? Above all else, they’re in this for the money. This is basic marketing people...
If they dropped all of the good stuff now, what would you talk about for the next few weeks until the set actually releases? Guess what though, you are talking about it now, even though this reveal is lackluster. It keeps you thinking about the set, and money in your wallet, just long enough that any of those “other hobbies” MTG competes with in your budget get pushed off until the whole set drops.
Haven’t you ever watched a movie trailer?
Sorry, the “outrage” and hyperbole that pops up every damn spoiler season is tiresome.
Anyways... on topic.
While the adapt reveals are a little uninteresting, I’m curious to see the pay-off cards. Maybe some sort of counter manipulation theme. The investment to adapt seems high, but it’s repeatable. I’ll wait to see the uncommons before passing judgement.
Afterlife is pretty nifty. Not too much to say about it, a creature that replaces itself, good stuff.
I’m pumped to see Gruul. Hopefully something really savage.
I agree with this sentiment, and just would like to add, that with cards like Zegana--and any other potentially high adapt number--it does move you closer to winning with Simic Ascendancy.
Adapt seems pretty weak. Pretty sad about that. Was hoping to finally have a sick Hadana's Climb deck hehe. I'll keep my hopes up until the full set is revelaed though. I love that card and +1/+1 counter synergies
Really hoping for some sick Azorious cards. I really want to play Esper Control too in standard and not go down the jeskai route.
Lol at these peeps and their reactions to the mechanic reveal.
WOTC is a business, no? Above all else, they’re in this for the money. This is basic marketing people...
If they dropped all of the good stuff now, what would you talk about for the next few weeks until the set actually releases? Guess what though, you are talking about it now, even though this reveal is lackluster. It keeps you thinking about the set, and money in your wallet, just long enough that any of those “other hobbies” MTG competes with in your budget get pushed off until the whole set drops.
Haven’t you ever watched a movie trailer?
Sorry, the “outrage” and hyperbole that pops up every damn spoiler season is tiresome.
Anyways... on topic.
While the adapt reveals are a little uninteresting, I’m curious to see the pay-off cards. Maybe some sort of counter manipulation theme. The investment to adapt seems high, but it’s repeatable. I’ll wait to see the uncommons before passing judgement.
Afterlife is pretty nifty. Not too much to say about it, a creature that replaces itself, good stuff.
I’m pumped to see Gruul. Hopefully something really savage.
Heh, savage, maybe they could create a tweaked ferocious and call it like that...in fact, Ferocious sounds like it would be right at home in Gruul.
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I am neutral on Spectacle. It's got a bit more going on than Bloodthirst, and Light up the Stage isn't bad.
Afterlife looks awesome for cube. Everything with it is automatically in a place full of synergy. Tithe Taker is a decent filler two-drop that feeds into a good archetype.
Adapt doesn't look promising. It gives an earlier card late-game action, but I don't see that much coming from it. Zeganna is unexciting.
We're starved for good UG cards, so I still have high hopes for some fun stuff. Caring about +1/+1 counters is well and good, but I'm much more interested in the Prophet of Kruphix, Coiling Oracle, and Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix part of UG's slice of the color-pie.
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It's a common. It is probably gonna be a very good limited card but it is hard for netdeckers to evaluate cards so don't be too hard on yourself.
I said the mechanic is trash, not the creature. Its insanely overcosted for a paltry one time nigh on useless counter. Its a garbage Draft only mechanic, it blows. Keep your netdeck insult to yourself and check the upvote count, you'll find real answer.
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
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When they introduced the aether revolt mechanic ‘revolt’ they used Decommission, Night Market Aeronaut, and Silkweaver Elite. They didn’t come out with Fatal Push as their mechanics example to double as a show off of their constructed-caliber card. Because that’s not how they work.
Still, the common flier looks outrageously meh. Key word is "looks". It's like a card with kicker which you don't have to wait for until you have mana to both cast it and kick it. Back when kicker first came out, the common cycle of stuff had kickers about this high - 3 and 4, for very little gain. Arguably the power level was a bit lower overall, but this mechanic is stronger than kicker, and noone will mind being able to dump some mana at the end of the opponent's turn to shorten the clock on a flier which they would play in limited anyway. And with Llanowar Elves in the format, whether this little thing is standard playable or not isn't that clear cut.
There's a bit of a ceiling on the mechanic depending on whether there are any dudes which evolve for costs other than mana. A guy who would evolve for the price of bouncing another dude back to your hand could be pretty good - if naturally evasive, then really good.
He obviously was taking about competetive constructed. You could have easily made your point that it is a strong draft card without resorting to personal attacks.
Someone on Twitter made a good point: the trident the character on the booster pack is holding is the same as the one from Prime Speaker Zegana
Afterlife is my favorite of those spoiled so far. I think it will have some Constructed implications, albeit small ones.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
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Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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I like the Azra, and I was sad we didn't get some awesome Cephalids in Dominaria. I mean, ever since the Kraul have been a thing, why can't we get some really good Krauls to play. The closest thing we've gotten is Kraul Harpooner.
Because I feel azorius might just end up with detain again
In that case seems they should have opened with that lol.
Well, with graft itself, but not with the abilities many creatures with graft have e. g. Novijen Sages, Cytoplast Root-Kin and good ol' Plaxcaster Frogling.
New Zegana is also an example of a card that shows how the synergy can cut both ways at the same time - drawing a card for a cheaper creature with graft and taking the single +1/+1 counter early on despite the fact that it costs adapt, because it turns her into a 5/5 trampler. It's clearly tesion, but the cards as whole can positively synergize even if the named mechanics themselves don't.
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WOTC is a business, no? Above all else, they’re in this for the money. This is basic marketing people...
If they dropped all of the good stuff now, what would you talk about for the next few weeks until the set actually releases? Guess what though, you are talking about it now, even though this reveal is lackluster. It keeps you thinking about the set, and money in your wallet, just long enough that any of those “other hobbies” MTG competes with in your budget get pushed off until the whole set drops.
Haven’t you ever watched a movie trailer?
Sorry, the “outrage” and hyperbole that pops up every damn spoiler season is tiresome.
Anyways... on topic.
While the adapt reveals are a little uninteresting, I’m curious to see the pay-off cards. Maybe some sort of counter manipulation theme. The investment to adapt seems high, but it’s repeatable. I’ll wait to see the uncommons before passing judgement.
Afterlife is pretty nifty. Not too much to say about it, a creature that replaces itself, good stuff.
I’m pumped to see Gruul. Hopefully something really savage.
Whereas Zegama is playable (assuming its worth playing Bant or Sultai or Temur) but not exactly exciting for commander
I agree with this sentiment, and just would like to add, that with cards like Zegana--and any other potentially high adapt number--it does move you closer to winning with Simic Ascendancy.
On topic,
Adapt seems really bland from the first brush. Hopefully there's a significant counter interaction to remove/move/spend counters.
I really like Afterlife. I hope there's an enchantment that gives Afterlife.
I would like that too please
Really hoping for some sick Azorious cards. I really want to play Esper Control too in standard and not go down the jeskai route.
Heh, savage, maybe they could create a tweaked ferocious and call it like that...in fact, Ferocious sounds like it would be right at home in Gruul.