We can dream that this will make all the "There's not a chance there's any really valuable cards reprinted that weren't box toppers" crowd admit their faulty presumption, but alas that would just be a dream.
This is not a $100 card. It was more like $40-$50 before a big buyout. Yes, most of its price is due to scarcity, but let’s not act like this isn’t really powerful and wouldn’t have stupid demand if it were Modern legal.
This is a very good card with very nice art and a first time foil. These won’t be worth $50 or even $30, but I can definitely see $15-$20 with a stupid foil multiplier.
We can dream that this will make all the "There's not a chance there's any really valuable cards reprinted that weren't box toppers" crowd admit their faulty presumption, but alas that would just be a dream.
The idea that this card is the rule and not the exception is absurd given what we've seen already. Nobody actually thinks that there will be no other cards of value. That's a straw man. However, most of us are quite sure that there won't be enough to justify the price tag.
Oh yeah, almost forgot - that art is hella noice!
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As great as these reprints are, it's upsetting to see that WotC obviously knew what the consumer wanted/needed all along and purposefully waited until their cash cow was dying before finally delivering. I hope you all buy case upon case of this product to drive these stupid prices down. In the meantime I will be spending my $14 on $14 dollar cards.
We also got Squee, Wall of Reverence, and Visions of Beyond. Confirmation bias is tough to self-regulate.* So far, this looks like a set that would finally justify the $10 price tag, but of course, we all know what happened there.
We can dream that this will make all the "There's not a chance there's any really valuable cards reprinted that weren't box toppers" crowd admit their faulty presumption, but alas that would just be a dream.
Until you realize that this won't be a really valuable card once the reprint hits. Scarcity was the only thing holding up the price.
That said, I'm pumped this is coming out! Wanted to build Miracles in Legacy!
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Nothing, the format Bores me! Legacy: RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R RGBelcherRG WSoldier StompyW BReanimatorB EDH: BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
This is a big deal reprint, and today overall has given me a lot of hope. This was among the craziest things they could reprint that wouldn't be box-toppers but it is a very expensive card. We've also had several cards that ought to be worth close to a pack (All is Dust, Eldrazi Conscription, Runed Halo, Phyrexian Altar) even after a reprint.
Now the uncommons just have to deliver...
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Commander - Currently Playing: RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G) RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B) WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
Holy cow. My Magic BFF and I have ONE copy of this between us, and it was $100 so we would not trade it.
Now we can both punish greedy Commander players!
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The "Crazy One", playing casual magic and occasionally dipping his toes into regular play since 1994.
Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
This is not a $100 card. It was more like $40-$50 before a big buyout. Yes, most of its price is due to scarcity, but let’s not act like this isn’t really powerful and wouldn’t have stupid demand if it were Modern legal.
This is a very good card with very nice art and a first time foil. These won’t be worth $50 or even $30, but I can definitely see $15-$20 with a stupid foil multiplier.
You nailed it.
Star City lowered the price on the original (which is sold out) from $120 to $70 as soon as this was spoiled. They are preselling the UMA version for $40.
As great as these reprints are, it's upsetting to see that WotC obviously knew what the consumer wanted/needed all along and purposefully waited until their cash cow was dying before finally delivering. I hope you all buy case upon case of this product to drive these stupid prices down. In the meantime I will be spending my $14 on $14 dollar cards.
I think this set and it’s price increase are basically Gavin Verhey, Adam Prosak and the rest of the nerds taking their ball and going home.
They gave us two sets that were supposed to be OMGLOLZ awesome because drafty draft draft, and the community crapped all over them. Now they’re saying “Ok, here are the stupid type of reprints you wanted... but we are raising the price and killing the Masters series.”
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
If you are, we are now all participating in our own version of Inception. Funny thing is I was saving this in my bag of tricks for Sensei's Divining Top, but that ship already sailed.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
As great as these reprints are, it's upsetting to see that WotC obviously knew what the consumer wanted/needed all along and purposefully waited until their cash cow was dying before finally delivering. I hope you all buy case upon case of this product to drive these stupid prices down. In the meantime I will be spending my $14 on $14 dollar cards.
I think this set and it’s price increase are basically Gavin Verhey, Adam Prosak and the rest of the nerds taking their ball and going home.
They gave us two sets that were supposed to be OMGLOLZ awesome because drafty draft draft, and the community crapped all over them. Now they’re saying “Ok, here are the stupid type of reprints you wanted... but we are raising the price and killing the Masters series.”
100% correct. I want reprints from a Masters set. I don't give a flying fig about how iconic dragons or angels are, or how well the set drafts. Toss some valued reprints my way and I'm in. I will be drafting this set in early December and I might do so a second time. Themed masters though? Fuggedaboutit.
Hopefully Verhey, Prosak and Nerdcore are left with a Cube of some sort to entertain themselves while we get what we want. And this set is looking goooood, some needed reprints and some other stuff to top off.
MaRo once said the key was listening to players, within reason. This set has done that for the first time since the first Modern Masters.
Listen to us, don't listen to Gavin. Don't listen to the story people for reprint sets. Just shove that value down our throats until we are gorged and sated.
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Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
The thing I can't figure out: They have THIS in the set, but they picked Tasigur for the box topper. Why? Just why?
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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Very impressed by today's cards.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
We can dream that this will make all the "There's not a chance there's any really valuable cards reprinted that weren't box toppers" crowd admit their faulty presumption, but alas that would just be a dream.
But less based on money im happy to see this reprinted for all the stax style decks that need this to function
Keep em coming wizards!
“I once had an entire race killed just to listen to the rattling of their dried bones as I waded through them.”
—Volrath
This is a very good card with very nice art and a first time foil. These won’t be worth $50 or even $30, but I can definitely see $15-$20 with a stupid foil multiplier.
The idea that this card is the rule and not the exception is absurd given what we've seen already. Nobody actually thinks that there will be no other cards of value. That's a straw man. However, most of us are quite sure that there won't be enough to justify the price tag.
Oh yeah, almost forgot - that art is hella noice!
My 720 Peasant Cube
I mean not like today also brought us Altar and Tower and Halo and Dust...
*Ok, I know that could cut both ways. Sue me.
My 720 Peasant Cube
Until you realize that this won't be a really valuable card once the reprint hits. Scarcity was the only thing holding up the price.
That said, I'm pumped this is coming out! Wanted to build Miracles in Legacy!
Currently Playing:
Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
Now the uncommons just have to deliver...
RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR
WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
Now we can both punish greedy Commander players!
Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
You nailed it.
Star City lowered the price on the original (which is sold out) from $120 to $70 as soon as this was spoiled. They are preselling the UMA version for $40.
Still an awesome reprint though!
The surreal artwork reminds me of older cards, which is also cool and fitting.
I think this set and it’s price increase are basically Gavin Verhey, Adam Prosak and the rest of the nerds taking their ball and going home.
They gave us two sets that were supposed to be OMGLOLZ awesome because drafty draft draft, and the community crapped all over them. Now they’re saying “Ok, here are the stupid type of reprints you wanted... but we are raising the price and killing the Masters series.”
Can we PLEASE get Stasis now?!
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
If you are, we are now all participating in our own version of Inception. Funny thing is I was saving this in my bag of tricks for Sensei's Divining Top, but that ship already sailed.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
100% correct. I want reprints from a Masters set. I don't give a flying fig about how iconic dragons or angels are, or how well the set drafts. Toss some valued reprints my way and I'm in. I will be drafting this set in early December and I might do so a second time. Themed masters though? Fuggedaboutit.
Hopefully Verhey, Prosak and Nerdcore are left with a Cube of some sort to entertain themselves while we get what we want. And this set is looking goooood, some needed reprints and some other stuff to top off.
MaRo once said the key was listening to players, within reason. This set has done that for the first time since the first Modern Masters.
Listen to us, don't listen to Gavin. Don't listen to the story people for reprint sets. Just shove that value down our throats until we are gorged and sated.
Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!