Hatchery Spider5GG Creature — Spider {R}
Reach Undergrowth — When you cast this spell, reveal the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of creature cards in your graveyard. You may put a green permanent card with converted maan cost X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
5/7
Based on the name I thought it would be another Undergrowth token creator, but as a cool spider. Then I thought 1)It would be better than Ishkanah, Grafwidow, and 2)We already spoiled the BG Undergrowth token maker in Izoni, Thousand-Eyed. Still, now I wish Ishkanah had Undergrowth instead of Delirium to create tokens.
I could see this having a place in EDH, but that's about it. And of course limited, if the limited format is slow enough.
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Sometimes you're happy to have an uncounterable effect instead of being entirely screwed by an essence scatter. Kinda expensive though. Wish it had convoke and undergrowth. I mean, can't we (Golgari and Selesnya) be friends?
Okay. So I'n not at all upset about it specifying green permanent. That's fine. I just would have preferred if this either was an ETB trigger or put the remaining cards in the grave to synergize with it's own mechanic. I might still play this in Yeva.
Edit: Okay this says "A Green permanent" as in one. When I first read this I thought it put all green with cmc X or less into play... Yeah... Definitely should have had that ETB trigger instead.
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This creature costs only 1 more mana than Carnage Tyrant in the color which has ramp effects. If you have built a Standard deck designed to try and take advantage of undergrowth then by the time you cast this you can probably grab something cmc 4, 5, or 6--on *cast*, so even if your opponent counters the Hatchery Spider you will still likely get a free creature for your trouble.
This creature costs only 1 more mana than Carnage Tyrant in the color which has ramp effects.
It's not "only" one more mana. There's a world of difference between 6 and 7 mana, it can be several turns.
Not in Standard. A typical ramp deck in Standard will drop this on turn 4 or 5, even if they aren't getting a good undergrowth trigger.
Trying to ramp this out as fast as possible is often going to be incongruent with undergrowth because we haven't seen many cheap and consistent ways of getting a critical mass of creatures in your grave except maybe Doom Whisperer (who is a more impactful card than this one without needing setup lr any other cards) which means that your undergrowth trigger on this isn't going to be great and might even whiff. If someone was going to build a ramp strategy, why wouldn't they use something at the top end like Whisperer, Carnage Tyrant, etc over this?
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Much like "Secrets of Mausoleum", it's a Golgari card that cares about cards of the same color. You all do realize the main reason it's a cast trigger is to prevent chaining one Hatchery Spider into another, right? With seven creature cards in the yard, you'd be able to dig through up to twenty-eight cards in one go, and drop four 5/7s on the field.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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People building ramp *would* use Carnage Tyrant because it is significantly better than Hatchery Spider. I was addressing the concerns over the card's mana cost, not its utility or playability. Landing one early just clogs up the board, giving a little more time to pitch a bunch of creature cards into the graveyard for the second one.
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Hatchery Spider 5GG
Creature — Spider {R}
Reach
Undergrowth — When you cast this spell, reveal the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of creature cards in your graveyard. You may put a green permanent card with converted maan cost X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
5/7
Seems fun, though.
Okay, fine.
Genesis Spidra/Spydra
Still, Dredgenesis Spider does the job,
given its CMC doesn't matter it'll be played by recursion in any constructed format.Edit - Cast trigger? Really? Why do you hate fun Wizard's?
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UBR Becket Brass - take what you can, give nothing back UBR
If WotC wants me to play all these expensive GB fatties outside Limited, I'm going to need better ramp than we've seen so far.
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Edit: Okay this says "A Green permanent" as in one. When I first read this I thought it put all green with cmc X or less into play... Yeah... Definitely should have had that ETB trigger instead.
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ETA: *Too expensive for the format
That said, it's one of the those cards that's great post wrath. It's on a cast trigger so it gets around counters.
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Not in Standard. A typical ramp deck in Standard will drop this on turn 4 or 5, even if they aren't getting a good undergrowth trigger.
-Chandra Nalaar
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
-Chandra Nalaar