They also gives you two buddies you can convoke with them. On turn 5 if you have two other creatures, cast out to cast Trostani and then tap them all to play Venerated Loxodon.
Flavor home run would be if they could be convoked for 3 creatures
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Selesnya is really boring creating only soldier token. i don't care what crappy storyline they fake up, the whole appeal of creature guild are diverse creature tokens and subtypes.
They all look cool. Ritual of Soot looks like a good anti-weenie card.
Anti-token more than anything, I'd assume. All tokens, from germ to wurm, have 0 cmc, unless they're clones or have some shenanigans like Essence in the Wildmaking them clones.
Trostani is nice. That's 5 power, on their own. (And again, we don't count total toughness, since Earthquake for 4 can kill all of them.) In a token deck, they're a lot more (barring Ritual of Soot).
And it's more that people think anything that doesn't fit in a tier-1 Legacy deck is crap. Or they're just try-hard wannabes who don't know an actual good card from a bad card, so they say all cards are bad cards to belong.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
I was so hyped for Rav3, but it seems like the set was designed for T2, and as we all know for every good card in standard there are another 270 pieces of trash, at least you guys are going to have some fun playing with these atrocities you call playable, the art of Rav3 is great though.
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not a big fan of then new trostani at all. it just feels... boring. its strong yeah i guess but, and this more from a commander standpoint, it doesn't make me want to build around it. its just another anthem in the 99, and honestly one that would be cut pretty quick when something better comes along.
From some second hand info from the Pax panel Trostani has been fighting among themselves and stopped speaking to each other.
Actually it's flavor brilliance then!
"We must just stay strong and endure, as we always have!" (gives everyone +1/+1)
"We must assist the rest of the guilds! Martial our forces for war!" (summons 1/1 dorks)
"No! We must keep the faithful close. We can trust only ourselves; there can be no alliances!" (prevents any creature stealing or swapping)
I do wish she was a little more pushed; at 5 CMC and mythic I'd expect either another token on EtB, or no tokens on EtB but a token on each end step/upkeep, or just more stats (a 3/5 would be more impressive). She'd also stand out a little better at 4 CMC. But in review, the flavor is pretty good.
I was so hyped for Rav3, but it seems like the set was designed for T2, and as we all know for every good card in standard there are another 270 pieces of trash, at least you guys are going to have some fun playing with these atrocities you call playable, the art of Rav3 is great though.
That's four so far halfway through just one set and I'm sure I'm forgetting something else. At this rate it's more than the average set so I don't know what you're complaining about. As a Modern player I'm embarrassed how often eternal format players complain so much about "Standard" cards.
I wouldn't say I'm disappointed I'm just not singing on the hilltops about Trostani. The first Trostani is one of my favorite cards but 2.0 isn't a general/commander but a part of the 99.
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I was so hyped for Rav3, but it seems like the set was designed for T2, and as we all know for every good card in standard there are another 270 pieces of trash, at least you guys are going to have some fun playing with these atrocities you call playable, the art of Rav3 is great though.
That's four so far halfway through just one set and I'm sure I'm forgetting something else. At this rate it's more than the average set so I don't know what you're complaining about. As a Modern player I'm embarrassed how often eternal format players complain so much about "Standard" cards.
Trophy? sure, the wannabe Finks won't see play simply because none of the G/W decks need it (Humans, Bant Spirits, Naya Burn) all of the other GW decks are below tier 2, if Knight of Autumn ends up being cheap it may se play in budget Little Kid but thats about it.
When i made that post i was salty because i waited 5 years to see my fav characters again (Trostani, Emmara and Teysa) but after some thought, it's all cool. MTG is sustained by standard players, WOTC has nothing to gain from eternal formats, so there's no point printing cards for them.
At least players with less money or in not so fortunate countries will be able to buy shocklands now (in theory).
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Trostani just isn't worth getting hyped over, but it's not a bad card. The issue is Regal Caracal and Angel of Inventions are both rotating out without really being a huge influence in standard (barring God pharaoh shenanigns) and there is just no reason to be hyped for version 1.3 of the same basic card.
wow connive//concoct is the first card that ACTUALLY looks like a real mtg card. regarding the art i mean.
like, the artist actually used... COLOUR?! instead of a murky wash of grey and black.. how novel
I think people are seriously underestimating Trostani Discordant. She's not phenomenally powerful, obviously, but she can easily find a 2-of (or maybe even 3-of) spot in a WG go wide deck featuring Emmara, Shanna, March of the Multitudes and maybe even Venerated Loxodon. From just an empty board, T5 Trostani into T6 March of the Multitudes is a whopping 17 power basically out of nowhere.
Sure, on a surface level it's easy to compare her to Regal Caracal and dismiss her because the cat didn't see much play, but I think that's a mistake. Besides the obvious difference of Trostani being an actual anthem for your entire team instead of just cats, the biggest difference is that Convoke is a huge incentive to play army-in-a-can style creatures that we didn't have when the cat was still in Standard. A single creature in play before casting Trostani means you can tap out on T5 for her and immediately follow it up with a Conclave Tribunal. That's huge being able to put 5+ power across multiple bodies into play on the same turn as you O-Ring their best thing. Not a bad answer to Teferi, Hero of Dominaria on T5.
It would have been better if Trostani 2.0 effect to make two white Soldier creature tokens was instead two Dryad tokens of Dryad Arbor that can tap for G or W.
The problem i see with all these token builds is that deafening clarion, the b boardwipe we just got, and others kind of kill them...
I mean sure, trostani is 5 power across 3 bodies but one clarion and she is reduced to 1/4... and since she doesnt consistently generate tokens you are sol...
As a mythic AND guildleader, she should be generating tokens constantly...
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This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
The problem i see with all these token builds is that deafening clarion, the b boardwipe we just got, and others kind of kill them...
I mean sure, trostani is 5 power across 3 bodies but one clarion and she is reduced to 1/4... and since she doesnt consistently generate tokens you are sol..
I mean that's just kind of the general weakness of aggro strategies though, isn't it? But between Llanowar Elves, Emmara, Shanna, Shalai, Trostani and Huatli, it's not unreasonably to run Mox Amber and literally have such explosive starts that your opponent is forced to have the Deafening Clarion on exactly T3 because T4 might be too late.
Flavor home run would be if they could be convoked for 3 creatures
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Anti-token more than anything, I'd assume. All tokens, from germ to wurm, have 0 cmc, unless they're clones or have some shenanigans like Essence in the Wild making them clones.
Trostani is nice. That's 5 power, on their own. (And again, we don't count total toughness, since Earthquake for 4 can kill all of them.) In a token deck, they're a lot more (barring Ritual of Soot).
And it's more that people think anything that doesn't fit in a tier-1 Legacy deck is crap. Or they're just try-hard wannabes who don't know an actual good card from a bad card, so they say all cards are bad cards to belong.
On phasing:
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I mean she has brooding saurian trick for a endstep so no need to worry about theft decks with her.
Wow amazing *_*
They give us flash Sphynx as soon as the legendary tribal Sphynx rotates... and they are trying to make Braw with standard legal cards a thing kkkkk
That's four so far halfway through just one set and I'm sure I'm forgetting something else. At this rate it's more than the average set so I don't know what you're complaining about. As a Modern player I'm embarrassed how often eternal format players complain so much about "Standard" cards.
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A legacy of lies,
A familiar disguise
Sing with me a song of conquest and fate
The black pillar cracks beneath its weight
Night breaks through the day, hard as a stone
Lost in thoughts all alone
Trophy? sure, the wannabe Finks won't see play simply because none of the G/W decks need it (Humans, Bant Spirits, Naya Burn) all of the other GW decks are below tier 2, if Knight of Autumn ends up being cheap it may se play in budget Little Kid but thats about it.
When i made that post i was salty because i waited 5 years to see my fav characters again (Trostani, Emmara and Teysa) but after some thought, it's all cool. MTG is sustained by standard players, WOTC has nothing to gain from eternal formats, so there's no point printing cards for them.
At least players with less money or in not so fortunate countries will be able to buy shocklands now (in theory).
Art student, EDH lover and a strong believer that Delver has the best design in all of MTG.
like, the artist actually used... COLOUR?! instead of a murky wash of grey and black.. how novel
Sure, on a surface level it's easy to compare her to Regal Caracal and dismiss her because the cat didn't see much play, but I think that's a mistake. Besides the obvious difference of Trostani being an actual anthem for your entire team instead of just cats, the biggest difference is that Convoke is a huge incentive to play army-in-a-can style creatures that we didn't have when the cat was still in Standard. A single creature in play before casting Trostani means you can tap out on T5 for her and immediately follow it up with a Conclave Tribunal. That's huge being able to put 5+ power across multiple bodies into play on the same turn as you O-Ring their best thing. Not a bad answer to Teferi, Hero of Dominaria on T5.
I mean sure, trostani is 5 power across 3 bodies but one clarion and she is reduced to 1/4... and since she doesnt consistently generate tokens you are sol...
As a mythic AND guildleader, she should be generating tokens constantly...
This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
Well, we already have that card in Standard.
Are you trying to imply that there is even such a thing as "enough" Verdant Force variants?