You go ahead and be excited about your limited jank but try to be decent enough to let the rest of us have opinions too.
I am not a mod, therefore, I do not have the power to stop you from stating your opinions. I do not know why you are suggesting that I have that power. Disagreement != censorship.
GB gets Assassin's Trophy but Lighning Helix is supposedly too powerful? Bull. All this Boros jank preventing us from getting good cards. Oh and in the span between this set and RtR all I've gotten in RW that I can use in modern is Nahiri.
One. Damn. Card.
Wait, if you're a Modern (R/W) player, why do you even need a Lightning Helix reprint? You are the dictionary definition of the player to whom WotC needs not cater with those kinds of decisions. New casuals maybe need a Lightning Helix reprint. Oh look... they're reprinting it in products for the casual market all the time.
Who says Lightning Helix is too powerful? Who says Lightning Helix isn't still in this set?
And no, bad cards do not stop you from also getting good cards. I know that statistics can sometimes be challenging, but try to focus on the fact that not all cards can be above average, when measured on the same scale. No matter how powerful a set gets, there will always be a worst card in the set. If the set has Boros cards, there will always be a worst Boros card in the set. That is not a conspiracy against Magic players, that is math.
I don't think you even know what you want. If you're a Modern player, surely you're used to the pace of change in the format being slower than Standard. Suddenly you're expecting GRN to, what, deliver an entire new competitive (R/W) archetype to you, whole cloth? 95% of these cards are simply never going to pertain to you. Yeah, you're always going to be looking for one, maybe two, more likely zero cards per set that are going to slot into your build. That's just the game, if you're playing Modern. I think you're just looking for a scapegoat.
I...don't understand the negative discussion toward this card. I can't even logically frame things in a way that makes sense to me. There's a heap of discussion about Aurelia needing haste to be relevant. She sorta has haste already? Her ability to buff a 2 or 3 drop to trade up in combat is extremely powerful. Seriously...buffing a 2 drop Mentor so that it triggers on your 3 drop is a brutal play pattern and snowballs advantage each subsequent turn. That isn't even mentioning the keywords that accompany said buff.
I mean, I suppose you can bash a card because you find the cardboard morally offensive, but you can't dismiss the card on the basis of power level. This is, most certainly, a constructed viable card. I honestly don't think its even that subtle.
Aurelia seems very standard playable! Now that Hazoret rotates she could take her place and she's also capable of blocking Rekindling Phoenix indefinetly. I think she's worth a shot.
On a side note...
You Boros supporters are so cute.
Go check what's the last Simic card that saw play outside of limited and commander, then you can talk.
"But what I really wanted to say is that Boros shouldn't all be about combat!"
Yeah, exactly as Simic is all about friggin' +1/+1 counters! Trust me, your guild is far from being the most unloved by WoTC.
No flame intended. Go Combine!
Yes we all know Simic and Boros rank at the bottom in standard put at least you get playables in Commander that is more then Boros can say. Boros is so bad in commander you better off going Mono Red.
Aurelia seems very standard playable! Now that Hazoret rotates she could take her place and she's also capable of blocking Rekindling Phoenix indefinetly. I think she's worth a shot.
On a side note...
You Boros supporters are so cute.
Go check what's the last Simic card that saw play outside of limited and commander, then you can talk.
"But what I really wanted to say is that Boros shouldn't all be about combat!"
Yeah, exactly as Simic is all about friggin' +1/+1 counters! Trust me, your guild is far from being the most unloved by WoTC.
No flame intended. Go Combine!
I heard Rogue Refiner was so good that it needed to be banned. Spring // Mind sees a lot of play, Tatyova, Benthic Druid sees play in some ramp decks. There aren't even that many simic cards in standard to begin with. There are a lot more boros cards and I think only one of them saw any play (Veteran Motorist).
Simic has a lot more varied legends than boros. Even if most of them boil down "sick value" they all do it with a twist that leads to different looking decks. Some like going tall, going wide, playing lands, storing mana for big spells, different tribals etc. The two real counter synergy legends are vastly different from each other. Simic even has less legends (14 vs 21) than boros and it's still more diverse.
And yes, Boros sucks and doesn't even do it's thing right, last time it was in Standard GW Monsters, UW Heroic and Mono R Devotion were all better aggro decks than Boros. The design team clearly just doesn't like designing WR cards.
She must really b superstrong.
She does even somethan after she comes in 4 Pseudo-haste
Afterwards shes a 4 mana
4/5 with Flyin, Trample, Vigilance & Mentor.
You shouldnt expect more & she is a great damage-dealer & even good on defense
Aurelia seems very standard playable! Now that Hazoret rotates she could take her place and she's also capable of blocking Rekindling Phoenix indefinetly. I think she's worth a shot.
On a side note...
You Boros supporters are so cute.
Go check what's the last Simic card that saw play outside of limited and commander, then you can talk.
"But what I really wanted to say is that Boros shouldn't all be about combat!"
Yeah, exactly as Simic is all about friggin' +1/+1 counters! Trust me, your guild is far from being the most unloved by WoTC.
No flame intended. Go Combine!
I heard Rogue Refiner was so good that it needed to be banned. Spring // Mind sees a lot of play, Tatyova, Benthic Druid sees play in some ramp decks. There aren't even that many simic cards in standard to begin with. There are a lot more boros cards and I think only one of them saw any play (Veteran Motorist).
Simic has a lot more varied legends than boros. Even if most of them boil down "sick value" they all do it with a twist that leads to different looking decks. Some like going tall, going wide, playing lands, storing mana for big spells, different tribals etc. The two real counter synergy legends are vastly different from each other. Simic even has less legends (14 vs 21) than boros and it's still more diverse.
I just wanted to make a joke, but I knew my message would have triggered someone, and since it's not my intent to generate flame I promise this is my last reply (also, I believe we're pretty off topic atm).
About your first point, Rogue Refiner was actually good, but Spring // Mind doesn't see more play than Veteran Motorist (when Vehicles still was a thing of course) and the argument on Tatyova doesn't really hold, since if we talk about Rogue brews (because no one ever actually played Tatyova in a competitive deck) I could say the same about Path of Mettle, which was actually used a lot in RW builds before Rakdos Aggro became the new tier1. You'll now say that Hadana's Climb was played a lot too, then Boros Reckoner, Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca, Master Biomancer, Ajani Vengeant, Boros Charm, etc.
It doesn't really make sense to actually battle about what guild is unloved the most (although notably there are more Boros cards that come to my mind at the moment than Simic cards, I should check on Gatherer).
As for the legends argument, I specifically said "outside of limited and commander". I was talking about all those people who complain about the lack of lock strategies in Modern/Standard in the Boros colors. I do agree with you about EDH, but I saw people were talking about 60 cards formats and that's why I replied.
Edit. Btw, no deck in the entire tcdecks standard archive plays Tatyova.
Aurelia seems very standard playable! Now that Hazoret rotates she could take her place and she's also capable of blocking Rekindling Phoenix indefinetly. I think she's worth a shot.
On a side note...
You Boros supporters are so cute.
Go check what's the last Simic card that saw play outside of limited and commander, then you can talk.
"But what I really wanted to say is that Boros shouldn't all be about combat!"
Yeah, exactly as Simic is all about friggin' +1/+1 counters! Trust me, your guild is far from being the most unloved by WoTC.
No flame intended. Go Combine!
I heard Rogue Refiner was so good that it needed to be banned. Spring // Mind sees a lot of play, Tatyova, Benthic Druid sees play in some ramp decks. There aren't even that many simic cards in standard to begin with. There are a lot more boros cards and I think only one of them saw any play (Veteran Motorist).
Simic has a lot more varied legends than boros. Even if most of them boil down "sick value" they all do it with a twist that leads to different looking decks. Some like going tall, going wide, playing lands, storing mana for big spells, different tribals etc. The two real counter synergy legends are vastly different from each other. Simic even has less legends (14 vs 21) than boros and it's still more diverse.
I just wanted to make a joke, but I knew my message would have triggered someone, and since it's not my intent to generate flame I promise this is my last reply (also, I believe we're pretty off topic atm).
About your first point, Rogue Refiner was actually good, but Spring // Mind doesn't see more play than Veteran Motorist (when Vehicles still was a thing of course) and the argument on Tatyova doesn't really hold, since if we talk about Rogue brews (because no one ever actually played Tatyova in a competitive deck) I could say the same about Path of Mettle, which was actually used a lot in RW builds before Rakdos Aggro became the new tier1. You'll now say that Hadana's Climb was played a lot too, then Boros Reckoner, Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca, Master Biomancer, Ajani Vengeant, Boros Charm, etc.
It doesn't really make sense to actually battle about what guild is unloved the most (although notably there are more Boros cards that come to my mind at the moment than Simic cards, I should check on Gatherer).
As for the legends argument, I specifically said "outside of limited and commander". I was talking about all those people who complain about the lack of lock strategies in Modern/Standard in the Boros colors. I do agree with you about EDH, but I saw people were talking about 60 cards formats and that's why I replied.
Edit. Btw, no deck in the entire tcdecks standard archive plays Tatyova.
Nobody is saying you can't appreciate this particular card if you enjoy limited or Standard. There's just one particular loudmouth who can't accept that some of us don't like it.
Double standards and all.
The card isn't very interesting from a constructed point of view. It's probably going to do decently well in Standard where aggro decks are generally a little slower. This is a curve topper aggro creature that costs too much to work in Modern where the aggro curves rarely support going higher than 3 and definitely need something faster than this if you go up to 4.
Haste instead of trample would've made sense if they wanted to try to entice Modern players. I doubt it would've saved the card but it would've at least given it a chance. That's assuming I wanted to play aggro in the first place but the janky Boros version of aggro has never seemed all that interesting. I'd rather play Bogles.
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I absolutely dissapointed for the total lack of creativity they have for boros. At this point its on purpose. This card is crap. I have been waiting for her for months and all she does is trash. i can't believe wizards won't listen to their player base. I am not asking for a brainstorm, but value. Tokens, Exiling like Etali, there are lots of ways of doing this. This card is just a another joke against the boros commander players.
Holy balls.
This being the third block set on Ravnica, I thought people would have come to understand and accept that THIS IS WHAT BOROS IS. The identity of this faction has been pretty well hammered out over the years. Maybe Boros is not what you want for (R/W), but I don't know why you'd come to a new Ravnica set expecting anything different. Multicolor is evergreen now, so I'd expect you'd be more likely to get something novel for (R/W)outside of a Ravnica set.
The card is fine. It's good. It's meant to be a lord for the Boros block mechanic, and I would say it gets a big A+++ there. It doesn't move the needle much at all for EDH, but not all cards have to. Standard: doesn't look like the kind of card that makes a build viable all by itself, but it could slot into something and execute just fine. I bet it will be pretty good in Brawl.
Thanks captain obvious. We all get it. Every Ravnica block has been filled with stupid Boros jank.
Boros is the problem.
I can't even get a Lightning Helix reprint. GB gets Assassin's Trophy but Lighning Helix is supposedly too powerful? Bull. All this Boros jank preventing us from getting good cards. Oh and in the span between this set and RtR all I've gotten in RW that I can use in modern is Nahiri.
One. Damn. Card.
You go ahead and be excited about your limited jank but try to be decent enough to let the rest of us have opinions too.
I’m also a RW modern control player, and we have got lots of good cards since RTR:
Or are you talking about cards that are Red and White? If that’s the case, how many modern playable Dimir cards has Wizards printed since RTR? What about Simic, Izzit, or Selesnya? The only guild that I can think of that has got more than 1 modern playable spell since RTR has been the Golgari with Grim Flayer and now Assassin’s Creed, but DRS got banned and Abrupt Decay isn’t as good as it used to be so that’s somewhat of a wash. Also, when Assassin’s Creed becomes legal, we may see the other guilds get more modern playable cards. Mission Briefing and Knight of Autumn certainly seem like modern staples.
Additionally, I don’t know why you were excited for a creature in a deck that maindecks wrath of god anyway.
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Captain Sisay GW
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Tymna and Ravos WB
Boros the limited guild, that will never ever have a decent not to mention broken commander. Meanwhile Muldrotha and all the sulati colors get stupid value cards like the new Demon.
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Still convinced the guy on Beseech the Queen is wearing a Mitra-type hat. Wake up sheeple!
I really don't understand the mindset of some modern players. Do you seriously expect CMC 4+ creatures to see play there ? Do you expect Aurelia to cost any less than this ?
Feels like you are missing the point about what a eternal format is.
It's more that they've stopped doing anything else in RW.
You can only see so many "Generic curve-topper Angel #12" and "slightly underpowered 3 drop with janky new ability" before you start to wonder if these things are the reason you never get any cards that are actually useful.
I can understand the complaint of Commander players, but modern not so much. We got lightning helix, Boros charm, and wear//tear from the first 2 Ravnica sets.
Boros locket gives Boros Commander players access to card advantage, and maybe Tajic or more Boros cards will be good for Commander. I assume at some point the battlebond lands will be printed for enemy lands, and we may see some good Boros commander cards in that set, or maybe in commander 2019 will have a Boros Commander.
It takes longer than we would like, but in general Wizards is good at listening to what the playerbase wants. They asked for our opinion in surveys. We asked for more answers to problem lands in modern and they have us field of ruin, damping sphere, and now assassin’s trophy. We asked for enemy fastlands and got them in Kaledesh.
However, Ravnica is created with draft, limited, standard, and newer players in mind. A lot of casual and newer players will love Boros in this set, and with red dominating standard you can see they aren’t printing any overpowered red cards.
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I gave Lightning Helix as an example of an answer card that fits what RW does AND should also be able to work as a Boros card but tbh it's not even close to being good enough.
Two mana gets you a Tarmagoyf in Green and a Dark Confidant in Black - and if you play both colors the same 2 mana gives you an absolute answer to any threat.
In RW it gets you a lightning bolt stapled onto a healing salve. The vast majority of the threats they've printed are janky themed aggro crap or tribal crap.
While you and a few others are listing aggro-oriented answer cards like Helix and Blessed Alliance - and I truly don't mean any offense to you - I know those cards only shine in specific contexts that have nothing to do with what I'm trying to accomplish. I'm sitting here making my own list and it's got - like - Blood Moon, Path to Exile, maybe Suppression Field if it wasn't a dead card sometimes. Not too much else...
Boros and RW in general are a creature attacking guild fine lets take that how well is WOTC delivering on that Front. How many good RW creatures actually exist? Pick a format Modern, Legacy, Commander? Crap in Standard seems like the joke in Commander that Red is better ALONE then is with WHITE holds true. You went from Hazoret and Glorybringer to Aurelia?
They are aggro cards as well and what do they have Haste and the ability to clear the way for your creatures to attack or just straight take out your opponent while they hide behind defenders or fogs. Chandra more of the same clears the board, helps you draw/direct damage to the face, even ramps. So really all WOTC has to do is take some of they do for Red already and apply it to Boros. Its not that hard. But instead the Boros Walker is Huatli? 5 CMC to Gain Life for Creatures and make 3/3 Dinos for 0? Any reason why this would be broken as 3 CMC with the same abilities? Maybe have it make 2/2 Dinos.
Scrapping a deck together from Kaladesh and Amonkhet gets you a way better aggro deck then what Boros is giving you. Cause those cards combine in a deck that is fast, restocks your hand and deals with blockers by tapping, killing them or just going to the face. So Again why can they not apply some of that to the Boros Guild? I mean sheesh the best actual Boros card to clear the board will probably be in some Jeskai Control Deck killing Boros Cards instead of clearing the board for them to attack.
You went from Hazoret and Glorybringer to Aurelia?
Really?...This is such bad argument.
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Do you hate Boros Reckoner? Lightning Helix? Because those were originally Boros cards.
Oh, nvm, I guess you're just yelling at clouds.
Wait, if you're a Modern (R/W) player, why do you even need a Lightning Helix reprint? You are the dictionary definition of the player to whom WotC needs not cater with those kinds of decisions. New casuals maybe need a Lightning Helix reprint. Oh look... they're reprinting it in products for the casual market all the time.
Who says Lightning Helix is too powerful? Who says Lightning Helix isn't still in this set?
And no, bad cards do not stop you from also getting good cards. I know that statistics can sometimes be challenging, but try to focus on the fact that not all cards can be above average, when measured on the same scale. No matter how powerful a set gets, there will always be a worst card in the set. If the set has Boros cards, there will always be a worst Boros card in the set. That is not a conspiracy against Magic players, that is math.
I don't think you even know what you want. If you're a Modern player, surely you're used to the pace of change in the format being slower than Standard. Suddenly you're expecting GRN to, what, deliver an entire new competitive (R/W) archetype to you, whole cloth? 95% of these cards are simply never going to pertain to you. Yeah, you're always going to be looking for one, maybe two, more likely zero cards per set that are going to slot into your build. That's just the game, if you're playing Modern. I think you're just looking for a scapegoat.
It's a joke.
I mean, I suppose you can bash a card because you find the cardboard morally offensive, but you can't dismiss the card on the basis of power level. This is, most certainly, a constructed viable card. I honestly don't think its even that subtle.
On a side note...
You Boros supporters are so cute.
Go check what's the last Simic card that saw play outside of limited and commander, then you can talk.
"But what I really wanted to say is that Boros shouldn't all be about combat!"
Yeah, exactly as Simic is all about friggin' +1/+1 counters! Trust me, your guild is far from being the most unloved by WoTC.
No flame intended. Go Combine!
I heard Rogue Refiner was so good that it needed to be banned. Spring // Mind sees a lot of play, Tatyova, Benthic Druid sees play in some ramp decks. There aren't even that many simic cards in standard to begin with. There are a lot more boros cards and I think only one of them saw any play (Veteran Motorist).
Simic has a lot more varied legends than boros. Even if most of them boil down "sick value" they all do it with a twist that leads to different looking decks. Some like going tall, going wide, playing lands, storing mana for big spells, different tribals etc. The two real counter synergy legends are vastly different from each other. Simic even has less legends (14 vs 21) than boros and it's still more diverse.
And yes, Boros sucks and doesn't even do it's thing right, last time it was in Standard GW Monsters, UW Heroic and Mono R Devotion were all better aggro decks than Boros. The design team clearly just doesn't like designing WR cards.
She does even somethan after she comes in 4 Pseudo-haste
Afterwards shes a 4 mana
4/5 with Flyin, Trample, Vigilance & Mentor.
You shouldnt expect more & she is a great damage-dealer & even good on defense
I just wanted to make a joke, but I knew my message would have triggered someone, and since it's not my intent to generate flame I promise this is my last reply (also, I believe we're pretty off topic atm).
About your first point, Rogue Refiner was actually good, but Spring // Mind doesn't see more play than Veteran Motorist (when Vehicles still was a thing of course) and the argument on Tatyova doesn't really hold, since if we talk about Rogue brews (because no one ever actually played Tatyova in a competitive deck) I could say the same about Path of Mettle, which was actually used a lot in RW builds before Rakdos Aggro became the new tier1. You'll now say that Hadana's Climb was played a lot too, then Boros Reckoner, Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca, Master Biomancer, Ajani Vengeant, Boros Charm, etc.
It doesn't really make sense to actually battle about what guild is unloved the most (although notably there are more Boros cards that come to my mind at the moment than Simic cards, I should check on Gatherer).
As for the legends argument, I specifically said "outside of limited and commander". I was talking about all those people who complain about the lack of lock strategies in Modern/Standard in the Boros colors. I do agree with you about EDH, but I saw people were talking about 60 cards formats and that's why I replied.
Edit. Btw, no deck in the entire tcdecks standard archive plays Tatyova.
Nobody is saying you can't appreciate this particular card if you enjoy limited or Standard. There's just one particular loudmouth who can't accept that some of us don't like it.
Double standards and all.
The card isn't very interesting from a constructed point of view. It's probably going to do decently well in Standard where aggro decks are generally a little slower. This is a curve topper aggro creature that costs too much to work in Modern where the aggro curves rarely support going higher than 3 and definitely need something faster than this if you go up to 4.
Haste instead of trample would've made sense if they wanted to try to entice Modern players. I doubt it would've saved the card but it would've at least given it a chance. That's assuming I wanted to play aggro in the first place but the janky Boros version of aggro has never seemed all that interesting. I'd rather play Bogles.
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I’m also a RW modern control player, and we have got lots of good cards since RTR:
Or are you talking about cards that are Red and White? If that’s the case, how many modern playable Dimir cards has Wizards printed since RTR? What about Simic, Izzit, or Selesnya? The only guild that I can think of that has got more than 1 modern playable spell since RTR has been the Golgari with Grim Flayer and now Assassin’s Creed, but DRS got banned and Abrupt Decay isn’t as good as it used to be so that’s somewhat of a wash. Also, when Assassin’s Creed becomes legal, we may see the other guilds get more modern playable cards. Mission Briefing and Knight of Autumn certainly seem like modern staples.
Additionally, I don’t know why you were excited for a creature in a deck that maindecks wrath of god anyway.
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I do like this card. Most likely standard playable. The power boost it can bestow on other creatures with mentor also makes it interesting.
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Feels like you are missing the point about what a eternal format is.
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You can only see so many "Generic curve-topper Angel #12" and "slightly underpowered 3 drop with janky new ability" before you start to wonder if these things are the reason you never get any cards that are actually useful.
Boros locket gives Boros Commander players access to card advantage, and maybe Tajic or more Boros cards will be good for Commander. I assume at some point the battlebond lands will be printed for enemy lands, and we may see some good Boros commander cards in that set, or maybe in commander 2019 will have a Boros Commander.
It takes longer than we would like, but in general Wizards is good at listening to what the playerbase wants. They asked for our opinion in surveys. We asked for more answers to problem lands in modern and they have us field of ruin, damping sphere, and now assassin’s trophy. We asked for enemy fastlands and got them in Kaledesh.
However, Ravnica is created with draft, limited, standard, and newer players in mind. A lot of casual and newer players will love Boros in this set, and with red dominating standard you can see they aren’t printing any overpowered red cards.
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
"Does my format suck?"
You should really be asking yourself both questions.
Two mana gets you a Tarmagoyf in Green and a Dark Confidant in Black - and if you play both colors the same 2 mana gives you an absolute answer to any threat.
In RW it gets you a lightning bolt stapled onto a healing salve. The vast majority of the threats they've printed are janky themed aggro crap or tribal crap.
While you and a few others are listing aggro-oriented answer cards like Helix and Blessed Alliance - and I truly don't mean any offense to you - I know those cards only shine in specific contexts that have nothing to do with what I'm trying to accomplish. I'm sitting here making my own list and it's got - like - Blood Moon, Path to Exile, maybe Suppression Field if it wasn't a dead card sometimes. Not too much else...
Ironically Suppression Field is a Ravnica card...
They are aggro cards as well and what do they have Haste and the ability to clear the way for your creatures to attack or just straight take out your opponent while they hide behind defenders or fogs. Chandra more of the same clears the board, helps you draw/direct damage to the face, even ramps. So really all WOTC has to do is take some of they do for Red already and apply it to Boros. Its not that hard. But instead the Boros Walker is Huatli? 5 CMC to Gain Life for Creatures and make 3/3 Dinos for 0? Any reason why this would be broken as 3 CMC with the same abilities? Maybe have it make 2/2 Dinos.
Scrapping a deck together from Kaladesh and Amonkhet gets you a way better aggro deck then what Boros is giving you. Cause those cards combine in a deck that is fast, restocks your hand and deals with blockers by tapping, killing them or just going to the face. So Again why can they not apply some of that to the Boros Guild? I mean sheesh the best actual Boros card to clear the board will probably be in some Jeskai Control Deck killing Boros Cards instead of clearing the board for them to attack.
Really?...This is such bad argument.
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