Mentor seems to work only with tokens, which doesn't look good enough for constructed. Even the best one so far, the Gob Warboss, takes too much work to survive a 3-dmg spell. Mentor needs to be on a solid body to work out, so far all the creatures with that ability can't attack without dying in the process.
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I didn't see that it said "one or both" until rereading it a third time. 3 damage sweepers are normally fine in constructed, giving the team lifelink is a major combat math headache and with a go-wide strat that's wide enough it could singlehandedly take over the game. I don't see myself playing both modes, but it's got plenty of potential.
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i actually dont mind this card. 3 mana deal 3 sweepers arent uncommon, but 1RW might be easier to cast for some decks than 1RR. if you can leverage the lifelink at all it is just gravy.
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I got excited when I thought the spell gave itself Lifelink too.
I'd still be shocked if this didn't make it into the 75 of any T8 lists. Control has good tools already and low-cost sweepers are going to get a lot better when Vehicles, Hazoret and Scrounger rotate.
Yes, I would much rather cast this than Sweltering Suns. I don't have all the creatures from GRN, but from the sets which will remain in Standard 74.2% of them have a toughness of 3 or less, which should allow it to take care of most tribal/token decks.
So between this and things like Chainwhirler in the format, is Convoke and Selesnya just supposed to not be a playable thing in any form of constructed?
Like the whole theme of that guild is make little tokens, go wide to cast big spells, and that is probably going to be impossible.
So yeah, hope Selesnya isn’t your favourite guild and you wanted to play standard with it.
I don't know if it's Modern playable, I would think not, but I am at least curious in Burn. a little extra Guide value, and a decent out if they go wider
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Might help back up Goblin Chainwhirler with Soul-Scar Mage out of Standard. White has a lot of toughness pump effects that might make your guys big enough to survive this. Trouble with Mentor interacting with this is that triggers on attack and this is a sorcery so you'd have to wait a turn to get the synergy.
This is obviously a control card. With return of shocks it seems quite feasible to play jeskai control. The lifelink will rarely come up but if you side in creatures that do not have lifelink the second line seems very reasonable. The UR counter should also make jeskai control a little easier on the mana. I suppose some WR decks that intend to go big vs other aggro decks will want this as well. I think the real question here is not why is this worse that Assassin's Trophy but why is Assassin's Trophy as good as Assassin's Trophy.
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There will be 55 creatures (not counting the ones in GRN) which are either red or white having a toughness >= 3 and a cmc <= 4; one of those creatures is Benalish Marshal, which acts as a generic lord. There should be enough choices to make a decent, low-mana-cost, creature-centric RW deck which can include Deafening Clarion without killing your own creatures. Will it win a large tournament? *shrug* Doubtful, but it should do nicely at an FNM even though most people are probably going to be on mono-red-something for the first week or two.
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This is obviously a control card. With return of shocks it seems quite feasible to play jeskai control. The lifelink will rarely come up but if you side in creatures that do not have lifelink the second line seems very reasonable. The UR counter should also make jeskai control a little easier on the mana. I suppose some WR decks that intend to go big vs other aggro decks will want this as well. I think the real question here is not why is this worse that Assassin's Trophy but why is Assassin's Trophy as good as Assassin's Trophy.
Naw. There's still a question about why this card doesn't get anything good from the white side. Example: Assassin's Trophy - combine one B and one G, you get a 2 cmc effect that no 2 cmc green card or black card could come close to duplicating.
Now do Clarion: replace one red mana with one white mana - get essentially the exact same 3 cmc Red sweeper that Red's always had. Is a lifegain combat trick really enough to justify the white? Try to keep in mind that the cards you're comparing this to generally include extra abilities themselves - stuff like cycling-3.
This isn't a letdown compared to Assassin's Trophy. It's a letdown compared to anything.
That said - people who play standard probably like it a lot more than people who play modern.
The issue to me is more the White part of the card doesn't really work with the guild. Because I don't remember seeing a single Boros creature with more then 3 toughness. So you are reliant on Benalish Marshall to not also kill your whole team of go wide 3/3s at best. But sure its pretty good in a Jeskai Control Deck.
Wait a minute, is every second flavor text in this set going to be a pun or a joke? Because sure as sure it looks like that just now.
That's not a pun. A pun would be "shofar, so good".
It's a cliché. Far worse. That said, I do like this one, if you have something like Akroma's Memorial or Boros Charm or Rootborn Defenses ready to protect your creatures. I don't know what you'd do in Standard.
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What about Chance for Glory, attack and then Deafening Clarion?
What's the point? If you're casting Glory, you be sure you're winning the game after combat. Clarion would have to be played before combat to wipe out the opponent's creatures.
What about Chance for Glory, attack and then Deafening Clarion?
What's the point? If you're casting Glory, you be sure you're winning the game after combat. Clarion would have to be played before combat to wipe out the opponent's creatures.
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Seems like the best way to use it so far.... Unless mentor is better than it looks?
It's not. Unless someone has devised some mentor epicness i haven't seen. I keep trying to make it work just because I like Boros :(. But I guess dinos are cool too...
Wait a minute, is every second flavor text in this set going to be a pun or a joke? Because sure as sure it looks like that just now.
That's not a pun. A pun would be "shofar, so good".
It's a cliché. Far worse. That said, I do like this one, if you have something like Akroma's Memorial or Boros Charm or Rootborn Defenses ready to protect your creatures. I don't know what you'd do in Standard.
Wait a minute, is every second flavor text in this set going to be a pun or a joke? Because sure as sure it looks like that just now.
That's not a pun. A pun would be "shofar, so good".
It's a cliché. Far worse. That said, I do like this one, if you have something like Akroma's Memorial or Boros Charm or Rootborn Defenses ready to protect your creatures. I don't know what you'd do in Standard.
You could've just autocarded like a normal person, and necro definitely isn't in Standard (and wouldn't help with this anyway, and you're already in two other colors, so why are you playing anything that costs BBB?)
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Mentor seems to work only with tokens, which doesn't look good enough for constructed. Even the best one so far, the Gob Warboss, takes too much work to survive a 3-dmg spell. Mentor needs to be on a solid body to work out, so far all the creatures with that ability can't attack without dying in the process.
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WCDeath and Taxes(sold)I'd still be shocked if this didn't make it into the 75 of any T8 lists. Control has good tools already and low-cost sweepers are going to get a lot better when Vehicles, Hazoret and Scrounger rotate.
Have you seen the GRN advertisements? Looks like humor is the flavor of the season, lol.
Aside from that, I do like the versatility this card brings to the table.
Like the whole theme of that guild is make little tokens, go wide to cast big spells, and that is probably going to be impossible.
So yeah, hope Selesnya isn’t your favourite guild and you wanted to play standard with it.
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I guess it keeps your curve topping creatures alive but really doesn't do a great job breaking parity.
Reminds me of one Lord Frederik.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Naw. There's still a question about why this card doesn't get anything good from the white side. Example: Assassin's Trophy - combine one B and one G, you get a 2 cmc effect that no 2 cmc green card or black card could come close to duplicating.
Now do Clarion: replace one red mana with one white mana - get essentially the exact same 3 cmc Red sweeper that Red's always had. Is a lifegain combat trick really enough to justify the white? Try to keep in mind that the cards you're comparing this to generally include extra abilities themselves - stuff like cycling-3.
This isn't a letdown compared to Assassin's Trophy. It's a letdown compared to anything.
That said - people who play standard probably like it a lot more than people who play modern.
Esp. when UWx has by far the easiest transition of the current Standard meta, and when we're going back to Shock/Check mana bases
That's not a pun. A pun would be "shofar, so good".
It's a cliché. Far worse. That said, I do like this one, if you have something like Akroma's Memorial or Boros Charm or Rootborn Defenses ready to protect your creatures. I don't know what you'd do in Standard.
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You would use Charge or, for a better option, Pride of Conquerors.
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What's the point? If you're casting Glory, you be sure you're winning the game after combat. Clarion would have to be played before combat to wipe out the opponent's creatures.
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How about Deafening Clarion, then Chance for Glory in response?
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
It's not. Unless someone has devised some mentor epicness i haven't seen. I keep trying to make it work just because I like Boros :(. But I guess dinos are cool too...
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With cat tokens out and goblin-banneret and skyknight-legionnaire] on the next attack ftw.
So maybe not the most epic, but still some good versatility with a 3-cost card.
You could've just autocarded like a normal person, and necro definitely isn't in Standard (and wouldn't help with this anyway, and you're already in two other colors, so why are you playing anything that costs BBB?)
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