I don't understand why BG constantly gets good removal like this while RW mostly just gets crappy anthem cards.
Red does lands and artifacts, white does creatures and enchantments. Even flavor-wise I think the land it gives away is a white (Balance) mechanic more than anything. Why doesn't RW ever get any of this good stuff? Screw that Boros crap. Give us the power the color combination deserves.
Seriously, it’s so boring as this point. It’s an enemy pairing, there’s absolutely no reason for their to be a higher abundance of quality G/b cards than literally any other pairing literally every single multicolor set.
Why does it being an enemy pairing matter? Not that you don't have a point about Golgari historically having more good cards than other guilds, but are you trying to say that it would be understandable if it was an ally pair instead? Cuz that makes no sense at all, especially on a world where the enemy colors are intentionally treated the same as allies.
I don't understand why BG constantly gets good removal like this while RW mostly just gets crappy anthem cards.
Red does lands and artifacts, white does creatures and enchantments. Even flavor-wise I think the land it gives away is a white (Balance) mechanic more than anything. Why doesn't RW ever get any of this good stuff? Screw that Boros crap. Give us the power the color combination deserves.
Yeah RW gets the shaft.
I think this should be sorcery quite frankly. It kills anything that is not Indestructible lol for a measly two mana at instant speed?
Then again, since when is either Azor or Isperia larger than a town?
That's a bridge and tower in the foreground, with a long staircase leading up to it. Stunning art is stunning art, but seriously, she's bigger than a leviathan here.
(can see it on Seb Mckinnon's hi res)
Have you looked at Isperia, Supreme Judge? She's colossal.
and the storyline hints at a change in leadership in some guilds.
It's not hint, it's a direct statement. They said Bolas will replace 5 guild leaders with planeswalker of his choice. Vraska is one. Seems Azorius will get one too. It would make sense to put Tezzeret in Dimir. (though given that Dimir is in this set and no Tezzeret in sight in any art, that doesn't click so far.) They also stated that GRN would get two Bolas-appointed PW and the next set three to get a sense that Bolas is winning. Is Ral supposed to kill off Niv-Mizzet? Maybe.
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Five would fall under Bolas's influence, and five would not. (Although, I should point out that each guild has elements pulling in both directions.) The five guilds that fell to Bolas would each have a planeswalker, beholden to Bolas, who would lead the guild.
Then again, since when is either Azor or Isperia larger than a town?
That's a bridge and tower in the foreground, with a long staircase leading up to it. Stunning art is stunning art, but seriously, she's bigger than a leviathan here.
(can see it on Seb Mckinnon's hi res)
Have you looked at Isperia, Supreme Judge? She's colossal.
Yea I don't think anyone has been able to provide a good argument for this not being Isperia. I'm interested in how the story is going to shake out. I imagine we'll be getting a new UW walker to lead Azorius. I don't remember there being Vedalken on Ravnica, so Dovin Baan would be an unlikely person to include, plus I'm not sure he's specifically pro-Bolas.
I'm also interested in how we're getting a Niv-Mizzet card, but MaRo hints that the five walkers we'll be getting in these two sets will end up as the leaders for their respective guilds. I cannot imagine Niv retiring and letting Ral take his place, so I imagine we'll get an awesome Niv v. Bolas fight. It'd be weird to see that before Milk, though, so not sure how exactly the distribution of leaders will turn out before then.
I'm also interested in how we're getting a Niv-Mizzet card, but MaRo hints that the five walkers we'll be getting in these two sets will end up as the leaders for their respective guilds. I cannot imagine Niv retiring and letting Ral take his place, so I imagine we'll get an awesome Niv v. Bolas fight. It'd be weird to see that before Milk, though, so not sure how exactly the distribution of leaders will turn out before then.
Niv is a rare this time around rather than a mythic - and that might be because they are not in the set in their role as uncontested guild leader, but as parting guild leader.
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My modern Sultai deck wants this as a 2 of to replace cast down in the main. I can’t wait to Snapcaster this back against tron after nuking their mana. Or hitting leyline against boggles then dropping Liliana to snag their creature. And and and.
I'm just happy the Dimir seem to be good guys this time round, Lazav's 'Blow up the world for subtle power and profit', plan was kinda pants in the last block.
And I don't think Bolas is replacing all the guilds he's taking with walkers, remember Dovin Bann isn't one of his minions he's just a guy who supported the consulate, DJ T-Z almost lost his head when Bann invited the Gatewatch.
Really weird to see Isperia go though..
MaRo's article stated each of the Bolas-aligned guilds are getting a Planeswalker leader.
The five guilds that fell to Bolas would each have a planeswalker, beholden to Bolas, who would lead the guild.
Being the BG player has been rough in my meta. It would be nice to have a decent answer I can simply mainboard in for 90% of my matchups. Approach of the Second Sun will rotate out soon, but so will Lost Legacy, my only answer to tease out Nexus of Fate besides Duress. I'm hoping this card will at least let me eek out enough wins to place.
I don't understand why BG constantly gets good removal like this while RW mostly just gets crappy anthem cards.
Red does lands and artifacts, white does creatures and enchantments. Even flavor-wise I think the land it gives away is a white (Balance) mechanic more than anything. Why doesn't RW ever get any of this good stuff? Screw that Boros crap. Give us the power the color combination deserves.
Yeah RW gets the shaft.
I think this should be sorcery quite frankly. It kills anything that is not Indestructible lol for a measly two mana at instant speed?
It is instant because the only way to kill a turn 5 teferi is on their turn - at sorcery speed the 'untap 2 lands' leaves open a counter.
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Green is the best at non-creature permanents, and black is the best at creatures.
White is not that good at killing planeswalkers.
PS: Green is the worst color in magic. The last green card that was a superstar for green was ancient stirrings, in a Tron deck. They took away card draw from green and gave it reveal to support a combo theme which creates mulligans to ramp into a big creature that just gets path'd.
There are Vedalken on ravnica. They only have 5 fingers though (kaladesh has 6)
Dovin baan is a possibility, although I don't see him aligning with bolas. He worked with tesseret when he thought he was doing the right thing and it all crashed down around him. He was mislead. He's a good guy but got tricked.
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This will upset the current metagame in Modern. Jund probably gets stronger. I'm not even sure Abrupt Decay is better against decks with counter magic (like UW Control). Abrupt Decay can't target JTMS, Teferi, or Celestial Colonnade.
Tezeret will lead either azorius or orshov - only 2 guilds thst make sense. He is espers colours (though they sometimes drop the white) I can see them making a variation of him that drops blue or black instead.
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In the context of the plane it doesn’t matter so maybe my point wasn’t that great but at least when looking at non ravnica sets enemy pairing are supposed to naturally occur less often because those two colors contradict flavor-wise. It’s the same reason we see allied pairings so much more often than enemy. If you could point to the other enemy pairings and show me examples of the same sort of love GB gets then it wouldn’t a huge deal to me but to single out ONE color combination as essentially treat it as the sixth allied pair is dumb.
I don't understand why BG constantly gets good removal like this while RW mostly just gets crappy anthem cards.
Red does lands and artifacts, white does creatures and enchantments. Even flavor-wise I think the land it gives away is a white (Balance) mechanic more than anything. Why doesn't RW ever get any of this good stuff? Screw that Boros crap. Give us the power the color combination deserves.
I dont begrudge you this - or abrupt decay - or maelstrom pulse. It's just that RW has got Lightning Helix and squat else.
You just lemme have that 2 cmc "non-Planeswalker" answer card for RW. Oh god yes. Anything.
I think my sad story is worse than yours anyways. I started playing RW in 1996. I have given up Land Tax, Armageddon, Wrath of God, Balance, Swords to Plowshares, Stone Rain, Wheel of Fortune and I've seen the game re-engineered to have legions of 4 toughness creatures that survive lightning bolts. Green otoh is pretty good compared to what it was back then.
WOTC hates RW. I complained about lack of spells before that are any good and someone said well Boros doesnt have a spell focus...yeah well Golgari has a creature focus in this set yet gets top tier removal. Granted Vraska is going to be important this set storyline wise so I guess Golgari getting pushed make sense. But that doesn't cover all the other time RW gets the shaft. BG and RB always get good removal, RW nope Lightning Helix and Boros Command are as good as it will ever get.
Besides Ravnica guilds have an outsized influence on two color pairs anyway. Which means RW will never shine lol outside of Burn Decks.
I'm fairly certain Jund gets a massive shot in the arm from this in modern.
What's more, I think Tron might actually take a fatal hit from this spell. Not in terms of FNM play but at the GP level I'd guess Tron suffers a significant dip because of this spell's presence in the meta.
We'll have to wait and see. I've already ducked out of playing Tron for my seat in a unified modern trio, on account of this card. Let's hope it's not too severe a beating.
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WOTC hates RW. I complained about lack of spells before that are any good and someone said well Boros doesnt have a spell focus...yeah well Golgari has a creature focus in this set yet gets top tier removal. Granted Vraska is going to be important this set storyline wise so I guess Golgari getting pushed make sense. But that doesn't cover all the other time RW gets the shaft. BG and RB always get good removal, RW nope Lightning Helix and Boros Command are as good as it will ever get.
Besides Ravnica guilds have an outsized influence on two color pairs anyway. Which means RW will never shine lol outside of Burn Decks.
Man Boros is the worst guild and it is lazy design - you can't honestly look at Mentor and tell me it's not just another flavor of the same weenie anthem crap they've always done. But it's probably going to be good in standard and therefore you can't put any real power in the colors aside from the forgettable weenie crap. They need to just get rid of the Boros Legion. I think it's restricting the design space in a color combo that doesn't have fast mana or card draw or anything else but those god-forsaken anthem creatures. Go to hell Sunhome. This card could easily exist in RW. Yes I'm jealous.
Red does lands and artifacts, white does creatures and enchantments. Even flavor-wise I think the land it gives away is a white (Balance) mechanic more than anything. Why doesn't RW ever get any of this good stuff? Screw that Boros crap. Give us the power the color combination deserves.
This is one better since you can hit lands with this one when abrupt can’t
Yeah RW gets the shaft.
I think this should be sorcery quite frankly. It kills anything that is not Indestructible lol for a measly two mana at instant speed?
Have you looked at Isperia, Supreme Judge? She's colossal.
http://gamelore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Isperia,_Supreme_Judge.jpg
It's not hint, it's a direct statement. They said Bolas will replace 5 guild leaders with planeswalker of his choice. Vraska is one. Seems Azorius will get one too. It would make sense to put Tezzeret in Dimir. (though given that Dimir is in this set and no Tezzeret in sight in any art, that doesn't click so far.) They also stated that GRN would get two Bolas-appointed PW and the next set three to get a sense that Bolas is winning. Is Ral supposed to kill off Niv-Mizzet? Maybe.
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Those Azorius meetings had to have been awkward. Isperia just peeking in through a window while they discuss politics.
I'm also interested in how we're getting a Niv-Mizzet card, but MaRo hints that the five walkers we'll be getting in these two sets will end up as the leaders for their respective guilds. I cannot imagine Niv retiring and letting Ral take his place, so I imagine we'll get an awesome Niv v. Bolas fight. It'd be weird to see that before Milk, though, so not sure how exactly the distribution of leaders will turn out before then.
Niv is a rare this time around rather than a mythic - and that might be because they are not in the set in their role as uncontested guild leader, but as parting guild leader.
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MaRo's article stated each of the Bolas-aligned guilds are getting a Planeswalker leader.
It is instant because the only way to kill a turn 5 teferi is on their turn - at sorcery speed the 'untap 2 lands' leaves open a counter.
White is not that good at killing planeswalkers.
PS: Green is the worst color in magic. The last green card that was a superstar for green was ancient stirrings, in a Tron deck. They took away card draw from green and gave it reveal to support a combo theme which creates mulligans to ramp into a big creature that just gets path'd.
Dovin baan is a possibility, although I don't see him aligning with bolas. He worked with tesseret when he thought he was doing the right thing and it all crashed down around him. He was mislead. He's a good guy but got tricked.
In the context of the plane it doesn’t matter so maybe my point wasn’t that great but at least when looking at non ravnica sets enemy pairing are supposed to naturally occur less often because those two colors contradict flavor-wise. It’s the same reason we see allied pairings so much more often than enemy. If you could point to the other enemy pairings and show me examples of the same sort of love GB gets then it wouldn’t a huge deal to me but to single out ONE color combination as essentially treat it as the sixth allied pair is dumb.
Bless your lips mate! Boros cannot even get an ability like Nahiri, the Harbinger's second effect in its own card! Vindicate is boros! Armageddon is boros! Sower of Discord is boros!
Boros, Dimir and of course the very bottom, Simic, do get the worst multicolor cards. Don't even get me started in commander!
As for the card, eternal playable in 3-4 multiples everywhere it can be played.
You just lemme have that 2 cmc "non-Planeswalker" answer card for RW. Oh god yes. Anything.
I think my sad story is worse than yours anyways. I started playing RW in 1996. I have given up Land Tax, Armageddon, Wrath of God, Balance, Swords to Plowshares, Stone Rain, Wheel of Fortune and I've seen the game re-engineered to have legions of 4 toughness creatures that survive lightning bolts. Green otoh is pretty good compared to what it was back then.
Besides Ravnica guilds have an outsized influence on two color pairs anyway. Which means RW will never shine lol outside of Burn Decks.
I'm fairly certain Jund gets a massive shot in the arm from this in modern.
What's more, I think Tron might actually take a fatal hit from this spell. Not in terms of FNM play but at the GP level I'd guess Tron suffers a significant dip because of this spell's presence in the meta.
We'll have to wait and see. I've already ducked out of playing Tron for my seat in a unified modern trio, on account of this card. Let's hope it's not too severe a beating.
Man Boros is the worst guild and it is lazy design - you can't honestly look at Mentor and tell me it's not just another flavor of the same weenie anthem crap they've always done. But it's probably going to be good in standard and therefore you can't put any real power in the colors aside from the forgettable weenie crap. They need to just get rid of the Boros Legion. I think it's restricting the design space in a color combo that doesn't have fast mana or card draw or anything else but those god-forsaken anthem creatures. Go to hell Sunhome. This card could easily exist in RW. Yes I'm jealous.