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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Sure, there is a chance of spending $4 on a booster and getting the Mythic Rare $30 super card. There is also a chance of surviving putting your tongue in a light socket.
thats a surprise its in ravnica, with the new Lich I guess you can get it right into play, however it seems like its a waste of a rare slot (was better as a uncommon).
i love it when they upshift worthless cards to rare! i am so much incentive to buy a pack right there! OMG OMG OMG! TO THE PREORDERING SITES!
...yeah no. this is a practice that needs to stop. if you have to upshift it to make it work in your set, don't include it in your set. instead design a different card.
I really don't see the purpose of rare-shifting this. Even if you get it out for free it's not an impressive card. It's just a 1/1 flier. If half-decent value is all it takes to be rare now then we might be in trouble...
Upgrading uncommons to rares is just terrible, they should never ever do that.
It upsets people and it just makes bad cards (unless the uncommon version is already more expensive than a rare, few exceptions of that exist, and even then they shouldnt push them higher in rarity).
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This card would be a good uncommon, especially as the set has the mechanics to actually get the card in play for free.
But its a 1/1 flyer !!! A RARE 1/1 flyer ... cmon, i already hate this card to the bones ... (and i would totally embrace it as an uncommon, just to be perfectly clear about it).
Yay, we have space jellies in Ravnica. Wait, when did we have space jellies in Ravnica? Also, do those have nematocysts? It's bad enough we have to deal with seasonal jellyfish in Australia and other beaches. Now imagine your skies having seasonal bouts of Narcomoeba floating through the air, with some of them dying from old age or something and gently floating down and landing on top of someones head. Those stingers do not deactivate upon death, unfortunately, and will embed themselves in someones skin and pump venom just as if it was still alive.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
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3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Maybe the practice is, if it appears in a Masters set as a particular rarity, it will be upshifted if it appears in a Standard or non-Masters supplementary set? Either way, no justification for the upshift. It doesn't warp limited the same way that Pelakka Wurm does, and it is of very limited financial value to justify preserving to Wizards.
Yay, we have space jellies in Ravnica. Wait, when did we have space jellies in Ravnica? Also, do those have nematocysts? It's bad enough we have to deal with seasonal jellyfish in Australia and other beaches. Now imagine your skies having seasonal bouts of Narcomoeba floating through the air, with some of them dying from old age or something and gently floating down and landing on top of someones head. Those stingers do not deactivate upon death, unfortunately, and will embed themselves in someones skin and pump venom just as if it was still alive.
I'm pretty sure I read something similar in a Fantasy/SciFi novel once. Dragon Riders of Pern maybe?
The reason for this being rare probably wasn't its oppressive power in limited, but the opposite. When it showed up more often, people would want to try it out because at first glance it pairs well with Surveil and Golgari self-mill effects. But a 1/1 flier, even for free, just isn't good in Limited, so people who tried to build around it ended up getting let down. It's rare in this set for the same reason Isolate is rare in M19.
The reason for this being rare probably wasn't its oppressive power in limited, but the opposite. When it showed up more often, people would want to try it out because at first glance it pairs well with Surveil and Golgari self-mill effects. But a 1/1 flier, even for free, just isn't good in Limited, so people who tried to build around it ended up getting let down. It's rare in this set for the same reason Isolate is rare in M19.
While I agree with this assessment, I’d argue it’s also good in limited in the sense that it pairs very well with a multitude of guild mechanics. BG will have a “dredge” theme as always. The aforementioned Surveil. Ravinica limited is very much a 3-color enviroment(for the most part) so combing those 2 things with Convoke and Mentor, you have a “free” flier that can grow or can pay for mana costs.
This one is a bit more justified than Pelakka Wurm was. It’s part of a combo in legacy, and anything that could remotely Mirror that(even at an incredibly nerfed power level) would make this a great pick and a limited all-star. I mean, it’s almost always be a good pick no matter what you’re drafting, free is free. Getting 2-3 of these could be problematic.
Not only is it not worth much but it's not even good in limited. At least opening a shockland will have value, this is pure trash that had a little value thanks to a small original run and even smaller original MM run. It's just added feel bad being upshifted. At least Pelakka wurm has the kind of stats and textbox that you'd think it should be rare.
Don't even see this as good with surveil. Getting a 1/1 flier into play is just too cute when it means you have to run 4 literal 2 mana 1/1's in your deck that when you actually draw them are utter garbage. Unless we see a lot of grisly salvage style effects this won't be playable. Even then the only reason it's good in other formats is thanks to bridge from below/cabal therapy and dread return.
It's a couple bucks at uncommon, maybe reprinting it but at rare is a compromise on supply increase/price drop, a lower scale version of things like making Force of Will a mythic in Eternal Masters
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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...yeah no. this is a practice that needs to stop. if you have to upshift it to make it work in your set, don't include it in your set. instead design a different card.
It works very well with Surveil and Jump-Start so it has a lot potential I think.
should they keep it at uncommon, I'd be hyped. pulling this as rare is going to feel really bad.
doesn't really work with Jump-Start though.
it only goes to the battlefield if you throw it in the grave from the library
It upsets people and it just makes bad cards (unless the uncommon version is already more expensive than a rare, few exceptions of that exist, and even then they shouldnt push them higher in rarity).
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This card would be a good uncommon, especially as the set has the mechanics to actually get the card in play for free.
But its a 1/1 flyer !!! A RARE 1/1 flyer ... cmon, i already hate this card to the bones ... (and i would totally embrace it as an uncommon, just to be perfectly clear about it).
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I'm pretty sure I read something similar in a Fantasy/SciFi novel once. Dragon Riders of Pern maybe?
While I agree with this assessment, I’d argue it’s also good in limited in the sense that it pairs very well with a multitude of guild mechanics. BG will have a “dredge” theme as always. The aforementioned Surveil. Ravinica limited is very much a 3-color enviroment(for the most part) so combing those 2 things with Convoke and Mentor, you have a “free” flier that can grow or can pay for mana costs.
This one is a bit more justified than Pelakka Wurm was. It’s part of a combo in legacy, and anything that could remotely Mirror that(even at an incredibly nerfed power level) would make this a great pick and a limited all-star. I mean, it’s almost always be a good pick no matter what you’re drafting, free is free. Getting 2-3 of these could be problematic.
Don't even see this as good with surveil. Getting a 1/1 flier into play is just too cute when it means you have to run 4 literal 2 mana 1/1's in your deck that when you actually draw them are utter garbage. Unless we see a lot of grisly salvage style effects this won't be playable. Even then the only reason it's good in other formats is thanks to bridge from below/cabal therapy and dread return.
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This card should not be a rare... especislly with how big Wizards is now on focusing on the draft environment. Disgusting.
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Problematic for who? Even if you get out 4 of these for free in a draft game that's still just 4 1/1 fliers.
I don't see the problem, here.