It feels like they really upped their game with these and are trying to provide more original themes and decks that not a lot of players are already familiar with. Top of library and Lands are not common in Esper and Jund. UR Artifacts did not have a general until Dominaria, and there is still plenty of design space here. Bant enchantress is maybe the least unorthodox of these, but does not have any real Commander support so far, so that is nice to see.
Riku of Two Reflections - Copy, then copy again | Shattergang Brothers - Token Sac&Recur | Gahiji, Honored One - Multiple attack steps | Karametra, God of Harvests - Landfall, Creaturefall, Shroud | Ruhan of the Fomori - Stop hitting yourself | Zurgo Helmsmasher - Equipment&Wraths | Crosis, the Purger - Dragon Tribal Reanimator | Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - No stax, just tap and untap fun | Anafenza, the Foremost - Enduring Ideal Enchantress | Sharuum, the Hegemon - Sphinx Tribal Control | Noyan Dar - Spellslinger | The Mimeoplasm - Counterpalooza
Lists can be found here.
Still convinced the guy on Beseech the Queen is wearing a Mitra-type hat. Wake up sheeple!
I'm thrilled for the Bant deck! I've got a Bant enchantress list with Rubinia Soulsinger at the helm currently. She's fine, but this new option may prove a superior fit. I can't wait.
I think its premature on the Male to Female complaint. But yeah they could have tossed an actual alive male in there.
Breya was not last year. Last year was Mardu Vampires, GW Cats, 5 Color Dragons and Grixis Wizards. Besides while new Jhoira is good she is also pretty boring and people have been clamoring for both UR Artifice and BANT Enchantments so those are good choices in my book. A JUND land matters commander also good but ugh top of deck ESPER just no.... I am with you on Spiders but Zombies are the most popular tribe in EDH I think and I stand by the ESPER should have been Graveyards matter.
I'm thrilled for the Bant deck! I've got a Bant enchantress list with Rubinia Soulsinger at the helm currently. She's fine, but this new option may prove a superior fit. I can't wait.
Bant Enchantress is what I am anticipating most as well. I have a UW (not Bant yet, although I would love making it Bant with the right general) Enchantment deck at the moment, with Ephara at the helm. Either that or more UW enchantment and Theros related cards to add to Ephara is most welcome.
BTW - I love your Avatar. That card has my second favorite flavor text in the game after the original Tragic Poet - WHICH is in my Ephara deck
Not sure how you can say Lands aren't JUND. Most of the cards that care about land are Green followed by Red and you can pick whatever third color you want at that point even if the best creature lands tend to have blue. But Gitrog is GB and Knight is GW.
I think its premature on the Male to Female complaint. But yeah they could have tossed an actual alive male in there.
Breya was not last year. Last year was Mardu Vampires, GW Cats, 5 Color Dragons and Grixis Wizards. Besides while new Jhoira is good she is also pretty boring and people have been clamoring for both UR Artifice and BANT Enchantments so those are good choices in my book. A JUND land matters commander also good but ugh top of deck ESPER just no.... I am with you on Spiders but Zombies are the most popular tribe in EDH I think and I stand by the ESPER should have been Graveyards matter.
I just feel like Zombies always have their chance in main sets, whereas other themes do not. Not to mention we're always due for an Innistrad revisit considering its popularity.
I've always wanted an interesting Esper commander, but somehow never get it. Oloro as an Emblem feels lousy. Sen Triplets rightfully draws hate. I can't think of any that are worthwhile. I am excited enough to Bant Enchantments to reserve my judgments on Esper for now. Even if it turns out bad, I'll be busy enough working with Bant to really care I suppose. Silas Renn is fun enough, so who needs to add White.
The mask girl? Looks a lot jeskai or temur... make sense only as the bant enchantress, i don't think she will be the bant enchantress
Clearly the masks represents multiple identities/options probably tied to the top-card-of-library theme, something like "As long as the top card of your library is a creature, ~ is a copy of that card." I don't know how one would arrive at anything else.
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Not sure how you can say Lands aren't JUND. Most of the cards that care about land are Green followed by Red and you can pick whatever third color you want at that point even if the best creature lands tend to have blue. But Gitrog is GB and Knight is GW.
I am not saying that, Jund is perfect for lands. But there is no real Jund lands commander so far, and I do not think it is a very common theme in that shard that very many players build around. There are only 30 Jund land decks on edhrec for example.
Riku of Two Reflections - Copy, then copy again | Shattergang Brothers - Token Sac&Recur | Gahiji, Honored One - Multiple attack steps | Karametra, God of Harvests - Landfall, Creaturefall, Shroud | Ruhan of the Fomori - Stop hitting yourself | Zurgo Helmsmasher - Equipment&Wraths | Crosis, the Purger - Dragon Tribal Reanimator | Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - No stax, just tap and untap fun | Anafenza, the Foremost - Enduring Ideal Enchantress | Sharuum, the Hegemon - Sphinx Tribal Control | Noyan Dar - Spellslinger | The Mimeoplasm - Counterpalooza
Lists can be found here.
Still convinced the guy on Beseech the Queen is wearing a Mitra-type hat. Wake up sheeple!
Not sure how you can say Lands aren't JUND. Most of the cards that care about land are Green followed by Red and you can pick whatever third color you want at that point even if the best creature lands tend to have blue. But Gitrog is GB and Knight is GW.
I am not saying that, Jund is perfect for lands. But there is no real Jund lands commander so far, and I do not think it is a very common theme in that shard that very many players build around. There are only 30 Jund land decks on edhrec for example.
Seems likes its not common cause there are no viable Jund Land Commanders.
- No recognizable past Legends finally getting a card
This does suck, but I highly doubt they'd not do any past characters
- No clear Kamigawa cards
- BANT may mean we don't get a Mono-White Serra
'May' being the operative word. But she's probably not a face card
- Shoe-horning the cards with rigid mechanical themes limits which past Legends we can get as cards
Do we really want more goodstuff commanders though? Or do you mean more flexible options?
- More Izzet Artifacts, Zombies, Spiders suggests to me being rather out of touch. Is the Spider crowd REALLY all that prominent to warrant ANOTHER Legend in place of others people have been crying out for? How many freaking Zombie cards have we gotten in the last 5 years alone? And while an Izzet Artifacts Legend other than Jhoira is welcome, limiting the whole deck to that theme seems awful considering how broken artifacts are in EDH. Wasn't Breya just last year too?
People have been wanting an Izzet artifact matters commander for years. It was probably developed separately to new Jhoira. Esper zombies has also been on the radar since Amonkhet as well.
Artifacts are also more broad than you're making them out to be. Equipment, vehicles, creatures, plain artifacts all could matter. I agree that they could be broken though.
The spider could be a larger theme of animals with lands matter like The Gitrog Monster? Or throwing a bone to the spider crowd who wanted Ishkanah, Grafwidow to be Jund?
- If I see any more women in classically male military positions, I may hurl. We got one male in the art, and he's a dead, dumb zombie. Wow.
I don't understand why this is an issue.
- No face cards revealed
This sucks. I would have liked to see one of them. But I've also hoping the Therosian enchantress is a legend. I love that art.
Overall, it's much better than last year's spoiler season, but still not as great as getting a full card.
Not sure how you can say Lands aren't JUND. Most of the cards that care about land are Green followed by Red and you can pick whatever third color you want at that point even if the best creature lands tend to have blue. But Gitrog is GB and Knight is GW.
I am not saying that, Jund is perfect for lands. But there is no real Jund lands commander so far, and I do not think it is a very common theme in that shard that very many players build around. There are only 30 Jund land decks on edhrec for example.
Seems likes its not common cause there are no viable Jund Land Commanders.
Riku of Two Reflections - Copy, then copy again | Shattergang Brothers - Token Sac&Recur | Gahiji, Honored One - Multiple attack steps | Karametra, God of Harvests - Landfall, Creaturefall, Shroud | Ruhan of the Fomori - Stop hitting yourself | Zurgo Helmsmasher - Equipment&Wraths | Crosis, the Purger - Dragon Tribal Reanimator | Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - No stax, just tap and untap fun | Anafenza, the Foremost - Enduring Ideal Enchantress | Sharuum, the Hegemon - Sphinx Tribal Control | Noyan Dar - Spellslinger | The Mimeoplasm - Counterpalooza
Lists can be found here.
Still convinced the guy on Beseech the Queen is wearing a Mitra-type hat. Wake up sheeple!
I'd rather than enchantress deck be Abzan than Bant. Black has many more interesting enchantments than blue.
And yes the way this was done sucked but what can you expect of "permanently 2 years in the past" WotC.
Riku of Two Reflections - Copy, then copy again | Shattergang Brothers - Token Sac&Recur | Gahiji, Honored One - Multiple attack steps | Karametra, God of Harvests - Landfall, Creaturefall, Shroud | Ruhan of the Fomori - Stop hitting yourself | Zurgo Helmsmasher - Equipment&Wraths | Crosis, the Purger - Dragon Tribal Reanimator | Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - No stax, just tap and untap fun | Anafenza, the Foremost - Enduring Ideal Enchantress | Sharuum, the Hegemon - Sphinx Tribal Control | Noyan Dar - Spellslinger | The Mimeoplasm - Counterpalooza
Lists can be found here.
Still convinced the guy on Beseech the Queen is wearing a Mitra-type hat. Wake up sheeple!
I'd rather than enchantress deck be Abzan than Bant. Black has many more interesting enchantments than blue.
And yes the way this was done sucked but what can you expect of "permanently 2 years in the past" WotC.
Look on the bright side you allow to use omniscience in the deck
I'd rather than enchantress deck be Abzan than Bant. Black has many more interesting enchantments than blue.
And yes the way this was done sucked but what can you expect of "permanently 2 years in the past" WotC.
I am sure they will get to ABZAN Eventually. They have crossed off NAYA, ESPER and BANT.
I think Blue has plenty of interesting options its clear W is King with G or B forming the core so far.
Everyone still hoping for a mono white Serra PW card after this is obviously in denial. They won't do two PW commanders for each deck and if Serra is in a deck she'll be its face card. So either she isn't in this year's product at all or we'll get a Bant-colored version of her (I think the former is more likely).
What if the girl from Theros is a Bant God? That'd be pretty neat. She does seem to have hair resembling grain...
Am I the only one who gets a Blue/White (not Mono-color and not Bant) vibe from the Therosian girl? She seems like a UW Enchantment Creature. A Nymph perhaps, but not a god. Observant Alseid. I can't think of a Theros legend she could be.
Callaphe was rumored to have sailed into Nyx itself, and could have become an enchantment creature... but she was more related to Thassa than Ephara.
There's Perisophia, leader of the 12 in Meletis, but she's Human.
Iris was Ephara's oracle, but also Human.
Theophilia is Nylea's favorite, a Dryad I believe. But I see little evidence of Green in this art.
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Breya was not last year. Last year was Mardu Vampires, GW Cats, 5 Color Dragons and Grixis Wizards. Besides while new Jhoira is good she is also pretty boring and people have been clamoring for both UR Artifice and BANT Enchantments so those are good choices in my book. A JUND land matters commander also good but ugh top of deck ESPER just no.... I am with you on Spiders but Zombies are the most popular tribe in EDH I think and I stand by the ESPER should have been Graveyards matter.
BTW - I love your Avatar. That card has my second favorite flavor text in the game after the original Tragic Poet - WHICH is in my Ephara deck
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Overall the themes are nice. The jund land deck will probably fuel my Gitrog deck.
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SHARDS: BANT, JUND, ESPER, GRIXIS
Suppose they do have some catching up to do for Wedges, they have practically finished Shards outside of NAYA.
I've always wanted an interesting Esper commander, but somehow never get it. Oloro as an Emblem feels lousy. Sen Triplets rightfully draws hate. I can't think of any that are worthwhile. I am excited enough to Bant Enchantments to reserve my judgments on Esper for now. Even if it turns out bad, I'll be busy enough working with Bant to really care I suppose. Silas Renn is fun enough, so who needs to add White.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
I think ESPER and SULTAI are just good at EDH that it gets in the way.
I bet good money ESPER is going to have at least one card that powers up Miracles in Legacy.
I hope the spider has a spider tribal ability on it. Land deck has a spider tribal sub-theme
Because red was missing from Ishkanah, Grafwidow
Clearly the masks represents multiple identities/options probably tied to the top-card-of-library theme, something like "As long as the top card of your library is a creature, ~ is a copy of that card." I don't know how one would arrive at anything else.
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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Seems likes its not common cause there are no viable Jund Land Commanders.
Overall, it's much better than last year's spoiler season, but still not as great as getting a full card.
Tamanoa - Welcome to the Jungle
Lists can be found here.
And yes the way this was done sucked but what can you expect of "permanently 2 years in the past" WotC.
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Lists can be found here.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Look on the bright side you allow to use omniscience in the deck
Here's the best part the vitro groom monster and Omnath, locus of rage can finally work together
And for a bonus Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire can help too
I am sure they will get to ABZAN Eventually. They have crossed off NAYA, ESPER and BANT.
I think Blue has plenty of interesting options its clear W is King with G or B forming the core so far.
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Callaphe was rumored to have sailed into Nyx itself, and could have become an enchantment creature... but she was more related to Thassa than Ephara.
There's Perisophia, leader of the 12 in Meletis, but she's Human.
Iris was Ephara's oracle, but also Human.
Theophilia is Nylea's favorite, a Dryad I believe. But I see little evidence of Green in this art.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||