If Wizards took over the Commander ban list they would probably not ban fast mana but only because of the same stockholm syndrome that keeps cards like Lion's Eye Diamond and Force of Will legal in Legacy: the format is ostensibly balanced around those broken cards. Since Brawl is a chance to start over, they probably feel a lot freer to not let the format be defined by must-play colorless cards.
Only to then print Karn. Ha.
Legacy is not a format they really care to support anyways. But sure would get interesting if they banned led and brainstorm.
I mean Karn is a very powerful card in decks that are interested in playing Karn, and I figure if 1v1 Brawl ends up being a very midrangey value format dominated by powerful rate cards... which it probably will, then yeah Karn will have that role which is unfortunate. But I figure they won't then ban Karn because of multiplayer. Sigh.
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This article sounds like a plant for future Brawl products that Wizards will push to keep their financials up.
how does someone make 2000 posts on this forum and post something like this lmao. Brawl is literally a pet project they threw out there with no expectations, and they obviously have no laid out plans for it, or this ban list would've been in place earlier or to begin with. If they make any brawl-specific business decisions, they won't show up until like 3 or 4 years from now after the format is proven to survive.
also Brawl is excellent and made me realize how miserable of a format vanilla commander is. I hope Brawl has legs and/or they continue to put new twists on Commander in the future.
This article sounds like a plant for future Brawl products that Wizards will push to keep their financials up.
how does someone make 2000 posts on this forum and post something like this lmao. Brawl is literally a pet project they threw out there with no expectations, and they obviously have no laid out plans for it, or this ban list would've been in place earlier or to begin with. If they make any brawl-specific business decisions, they won't show up until like 3 or 4 years from now after the format is proven to survive.
also Brawl is excellent and made me realize how miserable of a format vanilla commander is. I hope Brawl has legs and/or they continue to put new twists on Commander in the future.
I'm entitled to my opinion. Most businesses have to plan for things, so Brawl probably was planned in advance since Standard has been viewed as "poor" for at least two seasons before Dominaria. Wizards primarily makes money from selling standard sets, so promoting Brawl, which relies on Standard, makes financial sense. If Brawl is a pet project that came up last minute or very quickly, then I think Wizards were in trouble (not hitting their financial targets).
I have no idea if Brawl will last, since the format is new.
Commander has its problems, but I still enjoy it as it is an eternal format. I don't want to chase down new cards every season.
This article sounds like a plant for future Brawl products that Wizards will push to keep their financials up.
how does someone make 2000 posts on this forum and post something like this lmao. Brawl is literally a pet project they threw out there with no expectations, and they obviously have no laid out plans for it, or this ban list would've been in place earlier or to begin with. If they make any brawl-specific business decisions, they won't show up until like 3 or 4 years from now after the format is proven to survive.
also Brawl is excellent and made me realize how miserable of a format vanilla commander is. I hope Brawl has legs and/or they continue to put new twists on Commander in the future.
I'm entitled to my opinion. Most businesses have to plan for things, so Brawl probably was planned in advance since Standard has been viewed as "poor" for at least two seasons before Dominaria. Wizards primarily makes money from selling standard sets, so promoting Brawl, which relies on Standard, makes financial sense. If Brawl is a pet project that came up last minute or very quickly, then I think Wizards were in trouble (not hitting their financial targets).
I have no idea if Brawl will last, since the format is new.
Commander has its problems, but I still enjoy it as it is an eternal format. I don't want to chase down new cards every season.
you're not the only one with this opinion. i definitely share it.
almost everything they published around this format hyped it for weeks. its also been heavily pushed by 3rd parties, with an abundance of articles of scg about it as a format. they're definitely pushing full steam ahead on the hype train. the general response by players has seemed like mediocre at best, kind of a tepid yeah whatever i guess some people might like it. despite that there are articles popping up everywhere.
i really get the impression its an alternative to fixing standard, which they know has waning interest, and so they're pushing it and pushing it and pushing it in the hopes that it'll be popular enough to support standard a little more even just as an alternative means to crack packs moving forward.
This article sounds like a plant for future Brawl products that Wizards will push to keep their financials up.
how does someone make 2000 posts on this forum and post something like this lmao. Brawl is literally a pet project they threw out there with no expectations, and they obviously have no laid out plans for it, or this ban list would've been in place earlier or to begin with. If they make any brawl-specific business decisions, they won't show up until like 3 or 4 years from now after the format is proven to survive.
also Brawl is excellent and made me realize how miserable of a format vanilla commander is. I hope Brawl has legs and/or they continue to put new twists on Commander in the future.
People are essentially asserting that Wizards fabricated some story about a non-R&D employee coming up with the format and it catching on internally, to mask some directive from on high to create a new format to sell more packs. And then suggesting that SCG, ChannelFireball, content creators and so on are in on Wizards' plot to hype a new format (instead of just independently thinking the format looks cool). There's cynical and then there's being a conspiracy theorist.
Personally, I can't wait for the ban to be up on mtgo so I can play around with brewing Brawl decks again.
There's cynical and then there's being a conspiracy theorist.
Honestly can you really that no mediocre format ever was overhyped? *cough cough* tiny leaders *cough cough*
Seeing the whole buy a box promo shenanigan too...
But Tiny Leaders never had official support or endorsement.
I'm seeing almost the same here too. I don't know if i'm being too conspiracist, but i think that their touching story about how everyone at wotc started playing brawl just casually and now they are sharing their beautiful creation with us because they loved it and had fun it's a fairy tale. They just want t sell standard cards in a time were standard sucks.
And if they really started brawl 1-2 years ago, i hope some of them played with ulrich of the krallenhorde or ishkanah, grafwidow and realized their mistakes. But i doubt
The simplest answer is more to do with printing cards in Standard 'for Commander' and giving them another way to work. It is definitely a format that helps sell standard sets to a new market. Giving people that want a faster less nonsensical format than Commander, but the same overall multiplayer free for all Commander is.
Basically it's to give the 'I wanna build a theme deck' players a home that doesn't involve a 100 card singleton format that requires cards found only in tombs full of Indiana Jones style deathtraps to get to (AKA cards played in Legacy/Vintage).
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Only to then print Karn. Ha.
Legacy is not a format they really care to support anyways. But sure would get interesting if they banned led and brainstorm.
how does someone make 2000 posts on this forum and post something like this lmao. Brawl is literally a pet project they threw out there with no expectations, and they obviously have no laid out plans for it, or this ban list would've been in place earlier or to begin with. If they make any brawl-specific business decisions, they won't show up until like 3 or 4 years from now after the format is proven to survive.
also Brawl is excellent and made me realize how miserable of a format vanilla commander is. I hope Brawl has legs and/or they continue to put new twists on Commander in the future.
I'm entitled to my opinion. Most businesses have to plan for things, so Brawl probably was planned in advance since Standard has been viewed as "poor" for at least two seasons before Dominaria. Wizards primarily makes money from selling standard sets, so promoting Brawl, which relies on Standard, makes financial sense. If Brawl is a pet project that came up last minute or very quickly, then I think Wizards were in trouble (not hitting their financial targets).
I have no idea if Brawl will last, since the format is new.
Commander has its problems, but I still enjoy it as it is an eternal format. I don't want to chase down new cards every season.
you're not the only one with this opinion. i definitely share it.
almost everything they published around this format hyped it for weeks. its also been heavily pushed by 3rd parties, with an abundance of articles of scg about it as a format. they're definitely pushing full steam ahead on the hype train. the general response by players has seemed like mediocre at best, kind of a tepid yeah whatever i guess some people might like it. despite that there are articles popping up everywhere.
i really get the impression its an alternative to fixing standard, which they know has waning interest, and so they're pushing it and pushing it and pushing it in the hopes that it'll be popular enough to support standard a little more even just as an alternative means to crack packs moving forward.
...as a format though, it kind of sucks.
People are essentially asserting that Wizards fabricated some story about a non-R&D employee coming up with the format and it catching on internally, to mask some directive from on high to create a new format to sell more packs. And then suggesting that SCG, ChannelFireball, content creators and so on are in on Wizards' plot to hype a new format (instead of just independently thinking the format looks cool). There's cynical and then there's being a conspiracy theorist.
Personally, I can't wait for the ban to be up on mtgo so I can play around with brewing Brawl decks again.
But Tiny Leaders never had official support or endorsement.
Basically it's to give the 'I wanna build a theme deck' players a home that doesn't involve a 100 card singleton format that requires cards found only in tombs full of Indiana Jones style deathtraps to get to (AKA cards played in Legacy/Vintage).