You guys realize this means that Bolas is super dead now because of plot no jutsu, right?
Good. His death never should have been retconned to begin with.
I don't feel like he's going to die, but it probably put out of commission for a few blocks. It either that or not going to be the real Dr. Doom, but rather another Doom Bot Nicol Bolas, but rather an illusion.
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Anyone else thinks we could use a break from the Bolas storyline? I for one was really looking forward to a set without any of his influence.
I certainly don't want to stay on any one story arc for so long it becomes unwelcome either - I wouldn't want multiple blocks in a row of New Phyrexia, either - but at the same time, I'm pretty positive that whatever the next large set is will not feature Bolas simply because he seems to be taking his prize and pissing off at this juncture.
You guys realize this means that Bolas is super dead now because of plot no jutsu, right?
Good. His death never should have been retconned to begin with.
This. Kill him off finally, it's super lame that he's showing up here again. You have a creative team and can't just come up with another avenue for Lily's struggles? Enough Bolas, enough Eldrazi. Move on, creative team.
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Anyone else thinks we could use a break from the Bolas storyline? I for one was really looking forward to a set without any of his influence.
Everything pretty much revolves around Bolas at some point.
Sure, he has been around for so long that he has his claws in basically every major event in the Multiverse, whether directly or indirectly. After the recent sets, however, I am getting a bit tired of the "it was Bolas' plan all along" plot point.
serves you right you vain, angel murdering W-- ~ All those work, all for nothing. She thought she out manouevered Bolas...
I doubt she even thought about outmaneuvering Bolas. This seems more like a "didn't read the fine print" situation. Which, to be fair, is at least as foolish.
You guys realize this means that Bolas is super dead now because of plot no jutsu, right?
Good. His death never should have been retconned to begin with.
And he's been a really boring villain ever since his resurrection. Possibly before even then; I haven't read any of his pre-Time Spiral appearances, so I don't know how good he was in Legends. But WotC clearly doesn't know how to do anything interesting with him these days, so I think it's time they got rid of him.
serves you right you vain, angel murdering W-- ~ All those work, all for nothing. She thought she out manouevered Bolas...
I doubt she even thought about outmaneuvering Bolas. This seems more like a "didn't read the fine print" situation. Which, to be fair, is at least as foolish.
You guys realize this means that Bolas is super dead now because of plot no jutsu, right?
Good. His death never should have been retconned to begin with.
And he's been a really boring villain ever since his resurrection. Possibly before even then; I haven't read any of his pre-Time Spiral appearances, so I don't know how good he was in Legends. But WotC clearly doesn't know how to do anything interesting with him these days, so I think it's time they got rid of him.
It's not like they're starving for antagonists either. Ob Nixilis, Emrakul, Nahiri (possibly), Dovin Baan (again, possibly) and New Phyrexia are all waiting in the wings.
It's not like they're starving for antagonists either. Ob Nixilis, Emrakul, Nahiri (possibly), Dovin Baan (again, possibly) and New Phyrexia are all waiting in the wings.
Ob Nixilis is perhaps one of the best antagonists in Magic lore ever. Reading stories from his point of view is a delight.
And, unsurprisingly, Nissa called it, and Gideon and Chandra looks like fools.
Nissa wasn't aware that Bolas had hidden fine print, and neither was Liliana presumably.
She's only right as far as calling that killing off Lili's demons is a bad idea.
She knew that Lily was using them for her own ends, and she knew that Bolas had his claws in her. She said as much. Nissa knew Lily was a liability and got frustrated when her friends refused to listen to her when she pointed it out.
It's not like they're starving for antagonists either. Ob Nixilis, Emrakul, Nahiri (possibly), Dovin Baan (again, possibly) and New Phyrexia are all waiting in the wings.
Ob Nixilis is perhaps one of the best antagonists in Magic lore ever. Reading stories from his point of view is a delight.
I disagree. The good Baron is the best villain in M:TG.
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I actually like this art, but for Yawgmoth's ****ing sake, they need to come up with a definitive, unified depiction of Bolas already. He has more artistic variance than any other character I can think of.
That pretty new $700 statue they're releasing, based on the Conflux Planeswalkers art? Let *that* be the definitive, gospel depiction of Bolas. Wizards ought to give one to every artist hired to depict him. It's time for some uniformity.
I do not know what you are talking about. He keeps this gremlin face since his "rebirth" and the very Conflux art you are referencing. Even the statue has it. The thing is, you very rarely see him so close and grinning. He is not well suited for close-ups.
Maybe Zack Stella can clarify if wotc gives the artists any guidelines when it comes to character art. He is on these forums.
The art is beautiful, it's just Bolas's face. I would like a whole set with just Zack Stella and Magali Villeneuve as the artists.
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Bolas brokered the contract between Liliana and the Demons. This has been true for the entire time that the contract has been known.
It is very likely that he hid clauses in the contract that, in the event that the loophole of killing the demons nullifies the lien on Liliana's soul was exploited, Bolas would take over the contract.
The most interesting part of the art is that the sigils on Liliana haven't disappeared, which shows that the contract remains in force.
The flavor text creates a nice mood whiplash from the flavor text of Liliana killing Belzenlok.
Liliana: "You were an idiot for agreeing to a contract nullified by your death."
Bolas: "You were saying..?"
You guys realize this means that Bolas is super dead now because of plot no jutsu, right?
Good. His death never should have been retconned to begin with.
This. Kill him off finally, it's super lame that he's showing up here again. You have a creative team and can't just come up with another avenue for Lily's struggles? Enough Bolas, enough Eldrazi. Move on, creative team.
Yeah, I'm really freaking sick of Nicol Bolas. It's been, what, 4 straight blocks now that have involved him, either directly or indirectly? Granted, I'd at least rather see him than Phyrexia or Eldrazi (Bolas is already OP enough; we don't need more villains that are even more so and even harder to reason with), but just argh. And it really does not help matters that he's involved with my two favorite planes (Kaladesh and Ravnica).
On a side note, "Bolas" can apparently mean "balls" in Italian, and yes, they do use it in the same slang way that English speakers do, so he will forever be "Nick Balls" to me.
You guys realize this means that Bolas is super dead now because of plot no jutsu, right?
Good. His death never should have been retconned to begin with.
This. Kill him off finally, it's super lame that he's showing up here again. You have a creative team and can't just come up with another avenue for Lily's struggles? Enough Bolas, enough Eldrazi. Move on, creative team.
Yeah, I'm really freaking sick of Nicol Bolas. It's been, what, 4 straight blocks now that have involved him, either directly or indirectly? Granted, I'd at least rather see him than Phyrexia or Eldrazi (Bolas is already OP enough; we don't need more villains that are even more so and even harder to reason with), but just argh. And it really does not help matters that he's involved with my two favorite planes (Kaladesh and Ravnica).
On a side note, "Bolas" can apparently mean "balls" in Italian, and yes, they do use it in the same slang way that English speakers do, so he will forever be "Nick Balls" to me.
Bolas brokered the contract between Liliana and the Demons. This has been true for the entire time that the contract has been known.
I don't think Bolas brokering the contract was known from the start. I'm pretty sure the first we heard of the contract was when The Five were introduced in Lorwyn, back when their backstories were little more than paragraph long blurbs on the Mothership's story section. But, at the very least, Bolas having knowledge of, and some connection to, Lili's contract was revealed, at the latest, in the novel Agents of Artifice. So, still, the connection was there ever since they first expanded upon Liliana's character.
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There’s like 78 pages of them, and they’re updated every time they release a new demon. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
Good. His death never should have been retconned to begin with.
I don't feel like he's going to die, but it probably put out of commission for a few blocks. It either that or not going to be the real
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When not clicking "Accept" means you don't get to use "eternal_youth.exe", I can see why one would ignore them.
The problem is that Liliana clicked "Accept" and expected to get away with changing the source code.
I certainly don't want to stay on any one story arc for so long it becomes unwelcome either - I wouldn't want multiple blocks in a row of New Phyrexia, either - but at the same time, I'm pretty positive that whatever the next large set is will not feature Bolas simply because he seems to be taking his prize and pissing off at this juncture.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
Everything pretty much revolves around Bolas at some point.
This. Kill him off finally, it's super lame that he's showing up here again. You have a creative team and can't just come up with another avenue for Lily's struggles? Enough Bolas, enough Eldrazi. Move on, creative team.
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Sure, he has been around for so long that he has his claws in basically every major event in the Multiverse, whether directly or indirectly. After the recent sets, however, I am getting a bit tired of the "it was Bolas' plan all along" plot point.
Like Liliana of the Veil, or do you mean one where the art shows her with it on?
That might be hard to do; usually you don't want to obscure a character's face in a card depicting only them.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
And he's been a really boring villain ever since his resurrection. Possibly before even then; I haven't read any of his pre-Time Spiral appearances, so I don't know how good he was in Legends. But WotC clearly doesn't know how to do anything interesting with him these days, so I think it's time they got rid of him.
It's not like they're starving for antagonists either. Ob Nixilis, Emrakul, Nahiri (possibly), Dovin Baan (again, possibly) and New Phyrexia are all waiting in the wings.
Ob Nixilis is perhaps one of the best antagonists in Magic lore ever. Reading stories from his point of view is a delight.
She knew that Lily was using them for her own ends, and she knew that Bolas had his claws in her. She said as much. Nissa knew Lily was a liability and got frustrated when her friends refused to listen to her when she pointed it out.
I disagree. The good Baron is the best villain in M:TG.
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Maybe Zack Stella can clarify if wotc gives the artists any guidelines when it comes to character art. He is on these forums.
The art is beautiful, it's just Bolas's face. I would like a whole set with just Zack Stella and Magali Villeneuve as the artists.
All we know for sure in in Liliana origin story, where we find out Bolas set up the deals with the demons for her;
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/lilianas-origin-fourth-pact-2015-06-17
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It is very likely that he hid clauses in the contract that, in the event that the loophole of killing the demons nullifies the lien on Liliana's soul was exploited, Bolas would take over the contract.
The most interesting part of the art is that the sigils on Liliana haven't disappeared, which shows that the contract remains in force.
The flavor text creates a nice mood whiplash from the flavor text of Liliana killing Belzenlok.
Liliana: "You were an idiot for agreeing to a contract nullified by your death."
Bolas: "You were saying..?"
Yeah, I'm really freaking sick of Nicol Bolas. It's been, what, 4 straight blocks now that have involved him, either directly or indirectly? Granted, I'd at least rather see him than Phyrexia or Eldrazi (Bolas is already OP enough; we don't need more villains that are even more so and even harder to reason with), but just argh. And it really does not help matters that he's involved with my two favorite planes (Kaladesh and Ravnica).
On a side note, "Bolas" can apparently mean "balls" in Italian, and yes, they do use it in the same slang way that English speakers do, so he will forever be "Nick Balls" to me.
I believe in spanish but not in italian
As uncommon i already hate playing against this card ...
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