I think Wizards has to remind people that spoiled art can be of random, nameless common and uncommon creatures as well as important legendary creatures and planeswalkers. Art quality definitely doesn't have anything to do with rarity or importance. Remember when Scrapper Champion's art got spoiled when Aether Revolt was being teased, and a bunch of people thought it was Saheeli because people just assumed that this human woman from Kaladesh just had to be someone important?
The ancient Greek and Roman depictions of their Gods and heroes varied wildly across different artists, so they gave each figure an identifying item or article of clothing. For example, you knew this random naked guy was Hermes due to his winged sandals. Wizards approaches their important characters in much the same way, so trying to identify a (human) character purely from skin tone and hair color is basically doomed from the start. Huatli is going to have her headdress and be with a dinosaur in all of her arts because that's her shtick. Narset is a little harder to identify, but most Jeskai and Ojutai characters are going to be in some sort of martial arts pose.
On Narset, in almost all art that is depicting her she is not doing poses. She is more of a Scholar now. if u look the only 2 cards that she is in somekind of a pose are cards representing herself ( creature or planeswalker)
In Anticipate she will be doing a martial art pose, but she tecnicaly is not.
So the art in dominaria that could be depicting narset next to the academy is very much Narset-er
That was my first reaction too, but on closer inspection it definitely isn't. Huatli's armor and weapons are always depicted as full of organic-feather shapes, where this character's armor has a far more traditional design, and the white/blue colour scheme is very different from Huatli's amber, red, and white scheme. Huatli also never uses shields as far as I'm aware, just those weird, half-circle things of questionable martial value. As for the Huatli in the planeswalker decks, it seems clear that they're just using placeholders to avoid putting spoiler cards in their packaging displays.
I think Wizards has to remind people that spoiled art can be of random, nameless common and uncommon creatures as well as important legendary creatures and planeswalkers. Art quality definitely doesn't have anything to do with rarity or importance. Remember when Scrapper Champion's art got spoiled when Aether Revolt was being teased, and a bunch of people thought it was Saheeli because people just assumed that this human woman from Kaladesh just had to be someone important?
A few people thought that the art was for Saheeli, but the much larger incident surrounding that art was people thinking it was for a legendary creature, and understandably so: WotC put that art with the name "Advika Taar" and a character bio on their website next to a bunch of other characters' names, art, and bios (https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/aether-revolt). Everyone assumed that there would be cards for Advika Taar and Surash along with the other characters, since Kambal already had a card in Kaladesh and Sram and Rishkar were later confirmed in Aether Revolt. There was even speculation of Advika Taar being the long-awaited UR artificer legend, making it all the more heartbreaking for those people when Advika Taar's artwork ended up on a random uncommon (Surash had no art at all, oddly) and neither appeared in the actual story. This is made even worse by the fact that they had five characters with cards in Aether Revolt that they easily could have put on that page - Sram, Baral, Yahenni, Kari Zev, and Rishkar - yet for some god-forsaken reason whoever designed that web page decided to use only two of them and replace the other three with one character from the previous set and two characters that didn't actually exist.
It's perfectly fair to blame the fanbase for hasty assumptions of random art being planeswalkers - both in the past and with the alleged "Narset" and "Huatli" art now - but the misconception with Scrapper Champion was more that it was a new legend than that it was Saheeli, and unlike those other instances, you can't really blame the players for interpreting it that way because they had just about every reason to believe it was a legendary creature. That time it was entirely WotC's fault for being disorganized and misleading on their own website.
Actually I've always interpreted this differently: Scrapper Champion and all the other cards with arts that had bios on the website but weren't legendary creatures (there were a few actually) DID show these legendaries as part of a world-building effort, but since they understandably shy away from having too many legendaries (and especially ones with smaller effects) in a set after what happened with Kamigawa the compromise was that the art does show the people the bios talk about, but the cards only show their general occupation or role. I don't think that it has anything to do with being misleading.
Actually I've always interpreted this differently: Scrapper Champion and all the other cards with arts that had bios on the website but weren't legendary creatures (there were a few actually) DID show these legendaries as part of a world-building effort, but since they understandably shy away from having too many legendaries (and especially ones with smaller effects) in a set after what happened with Kamigawa the compromise was that the art does show the people the bios talk about, but the cards only show their general occupation or role. I don't think that it has anything to do with being misleading.
Oh yeah, they do this a lot, whether it be semi-important characters who just don't get a card (Jenrik) or totally unimportant characters who get names for the purpose of story articles on the website. The story articles leading into New Phyrexia basically alternated between important characters and cannon fodder.
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Still convinced the guy on Beseech the Queen is wearing a Mitra-type hat. Wake up sheeple!
Things of Note Teferi and Chandra are the two Planeswalker decks for Dominaria, Chandra's is R/G and Teferi's W/U that doesn't meant the planeswalkers are those colours neccessarily, but they could be.
Also Tezzeret's PW deck for M19 seems to be mono blue. We could be looking at another Tezzeret pre Bolas
The art we got of Tezzeret is definitly not pre Bolas since he already got his tattoo on his forehead wich he got after being defeated by Jace at the end of Agents of Artifice when Bolas took care of him.
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I just hope this is not the Karn planeswalker artwork ...
looks like Karn, the Preacher. Very robotic. I'm not sure what to make of it
Looks like those memes where the eyes light up. Something in that holy book shook him. Also not sure what I think of Teferi having hair. Did he buy that hair grow product or something? His head was so shiny. Did he even have hair follicles? If he suddenly has his spark back and has hair WotC will have some explaining to do.
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That new Magic logo is not pleasing. Very monotone generic looking especially when coupled with the same font for Dominaria.
I am very old school bias so who knows but it makes the packs and packaging look 'simple" if that makes sense or just some generic game, nothing special about it, will blend in even more. Seems bad.
I like the Karn, Jaya, and Teferi pics and am super excited.
Im going with Knight for the one booster
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That aven looks so surprised, like "wtf, why are you taking a picture of me? I said I didn't want to be on the boosters!"
Also I understand that some people see Narset in the picture of the Tolarian mage, but I've no idea how you could reasonably assume that knight to be Huatli - or an angel, for that matter. Wizards doesn't let their planeswalkers change outfits that drastically.
Was just going to comment how the choice for Jaya's pose was a bit lazy, but yeah, thinking about it for a moment, it's more likely that it was done on purpose.
Karn can sculpt metal and the silver of his body is soft and pliable and was actually liquid when he was still Godlike and created Mirrodin, so I'm not too upset about his appearance change. Presumably he gave himself a facelift for whatever reason.
Also, I think that's the Thrawn Tome he's holding.
Jaya is looking more wrinkled in that picture than the previous art that was released of her. See, that is the kind of inconsistency that is more bothersome. A human character should present a more consistent face. But its not too bad either I suppose.
I actually kinda like what they are doing with Teferi. I think his character ascended at a younger age, so he's aging better than Jaya. And also, it looks like he turned his staff into an aether powered handgonne! That's awesome!
The other two pack arts are kind of meh. The aven is cool enough I guess, and its neat they remembered that birdfolk were first introduced in Odyssey. But as for the knight? Serran angel? the composition is weird for pack art. If it is an angel, how do you put plate armor over the wings? Just... how does that even work? Its definitely not something I've seen an artist ever do before, but I think there are good anatomical reasons for that.
At last, Karn the Codex Shredder, that I can add to my Lantern Control deck to exile more cards. Please lords of R&D, make this a real thing.
Narset looks like she has gained in experience too, spicy.
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Jaya is looking more wrinkled in that picture than the previous art that was released of her. See, that is the kind of inconsistency that is more bothersome. A human character should present a more consistent face. But its not too bad either I suppose.
This is actually one of the reasons why young people are so favored in games. You don't need to worry about people counting wrinkles.
Also, if I am going to be nitpicky, Jaya is wearing very similar but subtly different clothing in each picture. Not saying she couldn't have changed clothes but it feels weird. She swapped her gold goggles for red ones; her pointed pauldrons for rounded ones; her half-jacket has a different number of stripes; her tabard(?) is tucked under her belt in one, and over the belt in the other; her hair braid is braided on opposite sides of her head; not 100% sure but her shirts have a different number of buttons; etc.
This kind of inconsistency often bugs me more than wrinkles because no two artists will draw the same face exactly the same way but it is not difficult to follow a style guide for clothing (comics do it all the time).
On Narset, in almost all art that is depicting her she is not doing poses. She is more of a Scholar now. if u look the only 2 cards that she is in somekind of a pose are cards representing herself ( creature or planeswalker)
In Anticipate she will be doing a martial art pose, but she tecnicaly is not.
So the art in dominaria that could be depicting narset next to the academy is very much Narset-er
Actually I've always interpreted this differently: Scrapper Champion and all the other cards with arts that had bios on the website but weren't legendary creatures (there were a few actually) DID show these legendaries as part of a world-building effort, but since they understandably shy away from having too many legendaries (and especially ones with smaller effects) in a set after what happened with Kamigawa the compromise was that the art does show the people the bios talk about, but the cards only show their general occupation or role. I don't think that it has anything to do with being misleading.
Oh yeah, they do this a lot, whether it be semi-important characters who just don't get a card (Jenrik) or totally unimportant characters who get names for the purpose of story articles on the website. The story articles leading into New Phyrexia basically alternated between important characters and cannon fodder.
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The art we got of Tezzeret is definitly not pre Bolas since he already got his tattoo on his forehead wich he got after being defeated by Jace at the end of Agents of Artifice when Bolas took care of him.
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looks like Karn, the Preacher. Very robotic. I'm not sure what to make of it
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Looks like those memes where the eyes light up. Something in that holy book shook him. Also not sure what I think of Teferi having hair. Did he buy that hair grow product or something? His head was so shiny. Did he even have hair follicles? If he suddenly has his spark back and has hair WotC will have some explaining to do.
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Yes, and it looks liked she mirrored the position of Chandra, Torch of Defiance
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I am very old school bias so who knows but it makes the packs and packaging look 'simple" if that makes sense or just some generic game, nothing special about it, will blend in even more. Seems bad.
I like the Karn, Jaya, and Teferi pics and am super excited.
Im going with Knight for the one booster
As far as Karn looking "strange": It could be something along the lines of a monument.
Also I understand that some people see Narset in the picture of the Tolarian mage, but I've no idea how you could reasonably assume that knight to be Huatli - or an angel, for that matter. Wizards doesn't let their planeswalkers change outfits that drastically.
Was just going to comment how the choice for Jaya's pose was a bit lazy, but yeah, thinking about it for a moment, it's more likely that it was done on purpose.
Also, I think that's the Thrawn Tome he's holding.
Jaya is looking more wrinkled in that picture than the previous art that was released of her. See, that is the kind of inconsistency that is more bothersome. A human character should present a more consistent face. But its not too bad either I suppose.
I actually kinda like what they are doing with Teferi. I think his character ascended at a younger age, so he's aging better than Jaya. And also, it looks like he turned his staff into an aether powered handgonne! That's awesome!
The other two pack arts are kind of meh. The aven is cool enough I guess, and its neat they remembered that birdfolk were first introduced in Odyssey. But as for the knight? Serran angel? the composition is weird for pack art. If it is an angel, how do you put plate armor over the wings? Just... how does that even work? Its definitely not something I've seen an artist ever do before, but I think there are good anatomical reasons for that.
weird angle and face composition. Would be sad if it was his pw card art.
Narset looks like she has gained in experience too, spicy.
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This is actually one of the reasons why young people are so favored in games. You don't need to worry about people counting wrinkles.
Also, if I am going to be nitpicky, Jaya is wearing very similar but subtly different clothing in each picture. Not saying she couldn't have changed clothes but it feels weird. She swapped her gold goggles for red ones; her pointed pauldrons for rounded ones; her half-jacket has a different number of stripes; her tabard(?) is tucked under her belt in one, and over the belt in the other; her hair braid is braided on opposite sides of her head; not 100% sure but her shirts have a different number of buttons; etc.
This kind of inconsistency often bugs me more than wrinkles because no two artists will draw the same face exactly the same way but it is not difficult to follow a style guide for clothing (comics do it all the time).
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