The 1 big change I would have made was 3 damage divided, not 2. 2 damage seams weak.
On a side note, not caring about Aetherworks Marvel or the Standard meta w/ the new Nicol Bolas. I am seeing a lot of fun hi-jinks for home-brews/kitchen-table Magic.
Bolas- Seems pretty powerful. Kinda weaker then his older card but easier to cast and still can hit pretty hard. I wonder if the new trend is we going to see key planeswalker with 4 abilities, like Garruk and Chandra got.
Bontu- Looks good and fair, at three mana and not uncapping next turn isn't that huge of a drawback. I really wonder what will go on with Bontu since the gods of Amonkhet are suppose to be "good" and all things point to Bontu being somewhat willing to Bolas.
Samut- Not one to complain but why did we need to get another RG walker? I figured being a speedster she'd maybe be RW (and to be fair with this card she could have been RW and fit better) if two colored and I totally excepted her to be Naya. And its not like we are out of them either with Arlinn and Domi still around, Sarkhan possible being seen again in those colors and Xenagos is still maybe alive in some form.
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I suspect some number of the gods are going to turn against Bolas during Hours, guessing the WUR ones just because they're the ones the Gatewatch interacted with the most during the story.
Am I the one who has to call attention to Samut's SWDS?
Samut enters the battlefield, double loyalty. Ults. Goes to fetch... a fatty and another Samut. Old Samut goes away. New Samut goes to fetch... a fatty and a Samut...
I am really sad that Bolas doesn't have a big ability that costs one more than his starting loyalty. Because that felt like where Dark Intimations was leading - that if you cast a Bolas with use of Dark Intimations you would get a Bolas that could do something immediately that a Bolas cast without DI could not.
Maybe the cycle will ensure you can attack with the relevant god after resolving? W giving you at least 3 tokens if not other stuff, U getting you to 7 cards in hand (wheel effect?), R getting you to 1 card in hand, G getting you a 4/* token. Could be cool.
I am really sad that Bolas doesn't have a big ability that costs one more than his starting loyalty. Because that felt like where Dark Intimations was leading - that if you cast a Bolas with use of Dark Intimations you would get a Bolas that could do something immediately that a Bolas cast without DI could not.
Dark Intimations does let you ult him a turn earlier.
Poor Amonkhet gods… disillusioned until the very end.
I suspect some number of the gods are going to turn against Bolas during Hours, guessing the WUR ones just because they're the ones the Gatewatch interacted with the most during the story.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nissa played a role in turning the Gods against Bolas, what with the whole "be the hand that moves" paradigm.
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I am really sad that Bolas doesn't have a big ability that costs one more than his starting loyalty. Because that felt like where Dark Intimations was leading - that if you cast a Bolas with use of Dark Intimations you would get a Bolas that could do something immediately that a Bolas cast without DI could not.
Dark Intimations does let you ult him a turn earlier.
I said immediately. You even quoted it.
Being able to ult two turns down the line rather than three iff you can avoid anyone doing any damage to him or you in the interim... isn't the kind of immediate improvement I was hoping Dark Intimations would deliver.
We also still have the planeswalker deck's Bolas as well. I wonder if that one will have four abilities as well? Also, you are not ultimating this Bolas in standard. The card advantage alone off of the +2 and +1 is enough if you could cheat this out to put you ahead.
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I am really sad that Bolas doesn't have a big ability that costs one more than his starting loyalty. Because that felt like where Dark Intimations was leading - that if you cast a Bolas with use of Dark Intimations you would get a Bolas that could do something immediately that a Bolas cast without DI could not.
Dark Intimations does let you ult him a turn earlier.
I said immediately. You even quoted it.
I get that. I even agree. But DI still does something more useful than simply making your opponent need 1 more damage to get rid of the 'walker.
I am really sad that Bolas doesn't have a big ability that costs one more than his starting loyalty. Because that felt like where Dark Intimations was leading - that if you cast a Bolas with use of Dark Intimations you would get a Bolas that could do something immediately that a Bolas cast without DI could not.
Dark Intimations does let you ult him a turn earlier.
I said immediately. You even quoted it.
Being able to ult two turns down the line rather than three iff you can avoid anyone doing any damage to him or you in the interim... isn't the kind of immediate improvement I was hoping Dark Intimations would deliver.
While it's not as immediately, Dark Intimations does let you use his -4 twice in a row, and two will let you still have him standing at the end of it. At a guess, they likely didn't want to have a weak enough ultimate on him that you could power it out with Intimations.
I do wonder, though: What is Samut's theme as a PW supposed to be? Allegedly speed was her game, so why isn't she granting haste with her + and ultimate? Although in the case of her + ability, you should already have creatures ready to attack when she drops, so I can see why haste isn't as important there. And just getting to cheat two creatures onto the field is plenty good, especially if one of them grants haste and the other absolutely wrecks face with haste. Say...Samut, Voice of Dissent and Champion of Rhonas? Glorybringer seems like a good fetch option too, to say nothing of Eldrazi titans.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Correct me if I am wrong, but does the third ability for Nicol Bolas, God-Pharoah counteract against Hexproof or Shroud? It states target opponent OR creature an opponent controls.
No, it can't. Any object after the word "target" is targeted.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but does the third ability for Nicol Bolas, God-Pharoah counteract against Hexproof or Shroud? It states target opponent OR creature an opponent controls.
It's targetopponent or creature and opponent controls. Pick either of the options, and it's still targeted. They could have worded it as "target opponent or target creature an opponent controls," but the second "target" is redundant.
Nicol Bolas seems super-sick !
Though the 7 damage should be distributable.† opponent
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Samut howeva seems like the worst Planeswalker-card since . . . I dont even know.
+1: Compare to Arlinns +1 dayside.
Just . . . Doublestrike ? Uhh how underpowered & especially boring.
-2 is neat at best. Compare to 3 Mana Lilis +1 though. At best he (or she ?) burns 2 creatures in 1 strike. At worst youre facing X/3 creatures
But then again: +1 helps gettin through the bigger ones.
I c how you can switch between offense & defense, The thing is:
Her abilities are just soo underpowered. & the defense is really lacking.
Suddenly you cant wait to play Arlinn d;)
Honestly Neat walker, but nothin like Arlinn & Xenagos powerlevel.
Bolas is "fine" , cheaper than the last but hell lot weaker as well, simply because he can only really deal with 1 creature the opponent has, and hes most of the time just worse than Chandra.
7 mana is quite a lot and this really doesnt cut it for that cost.
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The 4 mana walker is even worse, its incredible terrible compared to all the other GR walkers we had so far, seems super boring, especially given that her creature version was so much stacked abilities, this should have been a lot more than that (as it doesnt capture the "speed" feeling at all, its terrible at that).
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The wrath seems fairly decent, but making it 1 mana cheaper to not untap is a pretty big cost as well, if that means you cannot do stuff at all with your land drop.
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Hopefully theres better stuff going to come, this doesnt satisfy me.
The board wipe seems good to me. I mean, cascade. In Legacy Toxic deluge is used in BUG, Pox etc. The no-untap thing is harsh, but less so in Legacy with DRS and ritual to make sure there is stuff to do next turn.....
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Maybe now we can get a counterspell with the same effect as that wrath?
If Kefnet was going to get one, I'd think that it have more to do with card drawing. Something like a 1UU "Draw four cards. Your lands don't untap during your next untap phase."
That would be better than Meditate and Meditate is on the reserved list. I don't think, they would do that.
They print cards better than those on the reserved list all of the time. Most of the reserved list is complete garbage by today's standards.
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The 1 big change I would have made was 3 damage divided, not 2. 2 damage seams weak.
On a side note, not caring about Aetherworks Marvel or the Standard meta w/ the new Nicol Bolas. I am seeing a lot of fun hi-jinks for home-brews/kitchen-table Magic.
Bontu- Looks good and fair, at three mana and not uncapping next turn isn't that huge of a drawback. I really wonder what will go on with Bontu since the gods of Amonkhet are suppose to be "good" and all things point to Bontu being somewhat willing to Bolas.
Samut- Not one to complain but why did we need to get another RG walker? I figured being a speedster she'd maybe be RW (and to be fair with this card she could have been RW and fit better) if two colored and I totally excepted her to be Naya. And its not like we are out of them either with Arlinn and Domi still around, Sarkhan possible being seen again in those colors and Xenagos is still maybe alive in some form.
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I'm surprised Djeru isn't the PW?
What is it with RG Legends being PWs and Legends in the same block? A mess.
Poor Amonkhet gods… disillusioned until the very end.
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Samut enters the battlefield, double loyalty. Ults. Goes to fetch... a fatty and another Samut. Old Samut goes away. New Samut goes to fetch... a fatty and a Samut...
I am really sad that Bolas doesn't have a big ability that costs one more than his starting loyalty. Because that felt like where Dark Intimations was leading - that if you cast a Bolas with use of Dark Intimations you would get a Bolas that could do something immediately that a Bolas cast without DI could not.
Dark Intimations does let you ult him a turn earlier.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Nissa played a role in turning the Gods against Bolas, what with the whole "be the hand that moves" paradigm.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I said immediately. You even quoted it.
Being able to ult two turns down the line rather than three iff you can avoid anyone doing any damage to him or you in the interim... isn't the kind of immediate improvement I was hoping Dark Intimations would deliver.
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Not sure why you ever would do such a thing...but, you can.
There's also the aforementioned synergy with Doubling Season and extra copies of Samut, the Tested.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
No, it can't. Any object after the word "target" is targeted.
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Though the 7 damage should be distributable.† opponent
Also love 4 Mana Planeswalkers are continued ^^
3 Mana Wrath will excite countless Playas !
Great job on these 2 !
Samut howeva seems like the worst Planeswalker-card since . . . I dont even know.
+1: Compare to Arlinns +1 dayside.
Just . . . Doublestrike ? Uhh how underpowered & especially boring.
-2 is neat at best. Compare to 3 Mana Lilis +1 though. At best he (or she ?) burns 2 creatures in 1 strike. At worst youre facing X/3 creatures
But then again: +1 helps gettin through the bigger ones.
I c how you can switch between offense & defense, The thing is:
Her abilities are just soo underpowered. & the defense is really lacking.
Suddenly you cant wait to play Arlinn d;)
Honestly Neat walker, but nothin like Arlinn & Xenagos powerlevel.
Making sure things are dead, eh?
Bolas is "fine" , cheaper than the last but hell lot weaker as well, simply because he can only really deal with 1 creature the opponent has, and hes most of the time just worse than Chandra.
7 mana is quite a lot and this really doesnt cut it for that cost.
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The 4 mana walker is even worse, its incredible terrible compared to all the other GR walkers we had so far, seems super boring, especially given that her creature version was so much stacked abilities, this should have been a lot more than that (as it doesnt capture the "speed" feeling at all, its terrible at that).
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The wrath seems fairly decent, but making it 1 mana cheaper to not untap is a pretty big cost as well, if that means you cannot do stuff at all with your land drop.
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Hopefully theres better stuff going to come, this doesnt satisfy me.
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Also Samut the Tested is a terrible name. Who approved that *****?
They print cards better than those on the reserved list all of the time. Most of the reserved list is complete garbage by today's standards.