Maybe we'll get a 5 color god deck for god tribal. That would be unexpected. O-Kagachi would be cool too though, and I doubt they would do two big indestructible commanders in one release. Eldrazi might be out because they don't want the eldrazi to be too expensive. They've tried to be a bit toned down with the new cards.
Are your serious?
The only expsensive eldrazis (creatures) known are the leaders and thought-knot seer ($9)
And I'm pretty sure they won't get exspensive due to only being legal in legacy and vintage until printed in a standard set.
And not to mention they would be making more available for grabs thus making them cheaper
And Eldrazi cards need for reprint are all is dust,eye of ugin,eldrazi temple and several of the exspensive colorless mana bases.
Maybe we'll get a 5 color god deck for god tribal. That would be unexpected. O-Kagachi would be cool too though, and I doubt they would do two big indestructible commanders in one release. Eldrazi might be out because they don't want the eldrazi to be too expensive. They've tried to be a bit toned down with the new cards.
Are your serious?
The only expsensive eldrazis (creatures) known are the leaders and thought-knot seer ($9)
And I'm pretty sure they won't get exspensive due to only being legal in legacy and vintage until printed in a standard set.
And not to mention they would be making more available for grabs thus making them cheaper
And Eldrazi cards need for reprint are all is dust,eye of ugin,eldrazi temple and several of the exspensive colorless mana bases.
It would really depend on what it does. I mean Atraxa got really pricy and it's basically only playable as a commander. Theoretical new eldrazi commanders would be eligible for all decks and possibly be leading decks. I'd assume they'd be huge and good for attacking though.
Maybe we'll get a 5 color god deck for god tribal. That would be unexpected. O-Kagachi would be cool too though, and I doubt they would do two big indestructible commanders in one release. Eldrazi might be out because they don't want the eldrazi to be too expensive. They've tried to be a bit toned down with the new cards.
Are your serious?
The only expsensive eldrazis (creatures) known are the leaders and thought-knot seer ($9)
And I'm pretty sure they won't get exspensive due to only being legal in legacy and vintage until printed in a standard set.
And not to mention they would be making more available for grabs thus making them cheaper
And Eldrazi cards need for reprint are all is dust,eye of ugin,eldrazi temple and several of the exspensive colorless mana bases.
It would really depend on what it does. I mean Atraxa got really pricy and it's basically only playable as a commander. Theoretical new eldrazi commanders would be eligible for all decks and possibly be leading decks. I'd assume they'd be huge and good for attacking though.
Hmm that's true. The biggest reason it wouldn't go over price if there cost in the mana had C in it.
5 colour tribes is hard. Mostly in slivers and allies. There are only 2 other tribes that are in 5 colours.
Slivers have queen, hivelord, and I think a few others. Allies just got General Tazri. Elemental have Horde of Notions. Dragons have Scion of the Ur-Dagon. Scarecrows have Reaper King. There's probably more that don't spring to mind, like class instead of race tribal. And there's Karona the False God for any other tribe you could want. Atogatog doesn't support the tribal but is an option. Child of Alara is good if you have indestructible or only care about lands (Maze's End).
And that's just what's already out there, not considering the 56 new cards. I'm sure they're hesitant to use Devoid again, but they could even print a new Titan to allow the Devoid ones in the deck. They could print Emrakul like a God card, saying "~ cannot attack or block unless an enchantment left the battlefield this turn. ~ is all colors" Call her Emrakul, the Moon Mistress or Emrakul, Twice Imprisoned.
And your right werewolfs would be unexspected tribe because they're not to many werewolfs
They're unexpected because MaRo has said why they're unlikely in supplemental sets pretty regularly for a toy least about a year. Cards with two sides either need sleeves or tokens to be in the library, and both options come with issues. But it's possible they're just packing it with better tokens. As for not having enough Werewolves, I already have a werewolf Commander deck. You want my decklist?
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Internal reason... so probably confusing with some other product, like say, a supplemental product to be released around the same time.
Start speculation on a monkey/ape deck.
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Internal reason... so probably confusing with some other product, like say, a supplemental product to be released around the same time.
Start speculation on a monkey/ape deck.
And your right werewolfs would be unexspected tribe because they're not to many werewolfs
They're unexpected because MaRo has said why they're unlikely in supplemental sets pretty regularly for a toy least about a year. Cards with two sides either need sleeves or tokens to be in the library, and both options come with issues. But it's possible they're just packing it with better tokens. As for not having enough Werewolves, I already have a werewolf Commander deck. You want my decklist?
Nope I'm good
Either werewolf or Eldrazi is likely to get a spot
Ah tough why is eldrazi unexspected the only way they are unexspected is if they are 5c devoid.
I seriously doubt O-Kagachi is mono white. Final Judgment is perfectly fine for white, though. It also wasn't necessarily white villans and black heroes either in Kamigawa. Kami of the Crescent Moon got Konda to steal That Which Was Taken and Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker killed O-Kagachi while joining forces with her spirt sister that Konda stole.
I could see O-Kagachi being another Tazri-style legend, monowhite but with a WUBRG ability so you can play all the Channel, Soulshift, and Arcane spells in his deck. Though maybe they'd try a more novel approach, like a UR ability for Arcane and a BG ability for Soulshift. The UR ability could copy Arcane spells while the BG ability could be some kind of sacrifice effect or retrieval to re-use Channel abilities.
Or yeah, it could be a WUBRG Spirit with abilities that play well with Arcane, Channel, and Soulshift.
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Colorless would be mostly unexpected, because it isn't easy to pull off, as most of the deck options are artifacts. Even the 5 basic lands couldn't be used, instead requiring Wastes. Non-basic lands are also quite limited, and many options would be pointless (don't need color fixing without color). So quite a few people are thinking Myr, but it would remove the 5 mana-Myr and need a Commander still. That's why I think Eldrazi are the most likely colorless option.
There's still some issues, since many Eldrazi are devoid so can't be used, and original Eldrazi had Annihilator, limiting them as well. Still, a commander deck of Eldrazi would surely sell, even with Emrakul banned in Standard.
Colorless would be mostly unexpected, because it isn't easy to pull off, as most of the deck options are artifacts. Even the 5 basic lands couldn't be used, instead requiring Wastes. Non-basic lands are also quite limited, and many options would be pointless (don't need color fixing without color). So quite a few people are thinking Myr, but it would remove the 5 mana-Myr and need a Commander still. That's why I think Eldrazi are the most likely colorless option.
There's still some issues, since many Eldrazi are devoid so can't be used, and original Eldrazi had Annihilator, limiting them as well. Still, a commander deck of Eldrazi would surely sell, even with Emrakul banned in Standard.
Ok that makes sense.
Pretty sure we will get Eldrazi in my opinion and I will be thrilled.
I doubt we'll get an Eldrazi deck because these were being developed right around the time they were acknowledging how sick of Eldrazi everyone was.
*facepalm* that hate was only because of how many there were in BFZ/OGW + EMN, besides that's mostly people who read the story.
Plus eldrazis are definately still popular despite that. A ton of decks play Eldrazi even modern.
And three, wizards said a while back they would be interesting or not mind to make a pre-built colorless commander deck. This is not only a opportunity a colorless deck would be unexspected
Did you have a stroke while typing that out? There aren't any tribes mentioned there. People seem to be divided, but generally accept that there are no holds barred on the color combinations/quantities, the only mystery that we have to work with is that "there's at least 1 tribe you won't expect." So colorless being not unexpected does not disqualify it from that statement, since it could easily be Myr (which people are speculating on, but not expecting since it is a colorless tribe that is famous for producing colored mana, which would be out of place/illegal in a colorless commander deck).
I doubt we'll get an Eldrazi deck because these were being developed right around the time they were acknowledging how sick of Eldrazi everyone was.
*facepalm* that hate was only because of how many there were in BFZ/OGW + EMN, besides that's mostly people who read the story.
Plus eldrazis are definately still popular despite that. A ton of decks play Eldrazi even modern.
And three, wizards said a while back they would be interesting or not mind to make a pre-built colorless commander deck. This is not only a opportunity a colorless deck would be unexspected
People were *only* sick of Eldrazi because they flooded the game with tons of Eldrazi for more than a year? You don't say! And no, it wasn't mostly people who read the story.
Wizards tends to overcompensate when they see backlash. I'd wager they will (wisely) keep the Eldrazi tucked away for a while. Trotting them out every couple years makes them less special.
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Are your serious?
The only expsensive eldrazis (creatures) known are the leaders and thought-knot seer ($9)
And I'm pretty sure they won't get exspensive due to only being legal in legacy and vintage until printed in a standard set.
And not to mention they would be making more available for grabs thus making them cheaper
And Eldrazi cards need for reprint are all is dust,eye of ugin,eldrazi temple and several of the exspensive colorless mana bases.
Not as fact but as bet for the odd tribal XD.
Hmm that's true. The biggest reason it wouldn't go over price if there cost in the mana had C in it.
Slivers have queen, hivelord, and I think a few others. Allies just got General Tazri. Elemental have Horde of Notions. Dragons have Scion of the Ur-Dagon. Scarecrows have Reaper King. There's probably more that don't spring to mind, like class instead of race tribal. And there's Karona the False God for any other tribe you could want. Atogatog doesn't support the tribal but is an option. Child of Alara is good if you have indestructible or only care about lands (Maze's End).
And that's just what's already out there, not considering the 56 new cards. I'm sure they're hesitant to use Devoid again, but they could even print a new Titan to allow the Devoid ones in the deck. They could print Emrakul like a God card, saying "~ cannot attack or block unless an enchantment left the battlefield this turn. ~ is all colors" Call her Emrakul, the Moon Mistress or Emrakul, Twice Imprisoned.
Gavin Verhey, actually. "I led #MTGC17 design! 4 tribal decks. I can't say much, but there's at least 1 tribe you won't expect... "
They're unexpected because MaRo has said why they're unlikely in supplemental sets pretty regularly for a toy least about a year. Cards with two sides either need sleeves or tokens to be in the library, and both options come with issues. But it's possible they're just packing it with better tokens. As for not having enough Werewolves, I already have a werewolf Commander deck. You want my decklist?
The central conceit of Kamigawa block was white villains (Konda and O-Kagachi), black heroes (Toshiro and Night's Reach).
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Internal reason... so probably confusing with some other product, like say, a supplemental product to be released around the same time.
Start speculation on a monkey/ape deck.
Or a Plane of the Apes
Nope I'm good
Either werewolf or Eldrazi is likely to get a spot
Ah tough why is eldrazi unexspected the only way they are unexspected is if they are 5c devoid.
Or yeah, it could be a WUBRG Spirit with abilities that play well with Arcane, Channel, and Soulshift.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
There's still some issues, since many Eldrazi are devoid so can't be used, and original Eldrazi had Annihilator, limiting them as well. Still, a commander deck of Eldrazi would surely sell, even with Emrakul banned in Standard.
Ok that makes sense.
Pretty sure we will get Eldrazi in my opinion and I will be thrilled.
I wouldn't care what the other decks are.
*facepalm* that hate was only because of how many there were in BFZ/OGW + EMN, besides that's mostly people who read the story.
Plus eldrazis are definately still popular despite that. A ton of decks play Eldrazi even modern.
And three, wizards said a while back they would be interesting or not mind to make a pre-built colorless commander deck. This is not only a opportunity a colorless deck would be unexspected
One Color:
Two Color:
Three Color:
Five Color:
Did you have a stroke while typing that out? There aren't any tribes mentioned there. People seem to be divided, but generally accept that there are no holds barred on the color combinations/quantities, the only mystery that we have to work with is that "there's at least 1 tribe you won't expect." So colorless being not unexpected does not disqualify it from that statement, since it could easily be Myr (which people are speculating on, but not expecting since it is a colorless tribe that is famous for producing colored mana, which would be out of place/illegal in a colorless commander deck).
I guess that's true going from unexpected to expected lol
Yeah, that's probably not necessarily because the tribe is really popular. I feel like it has more to do with the deck being a tier 1 strat.
People were *only* sick of Eldrazi because they flooded the game with tons of Eldrazi for more than a year? You don't say! And no, it wasn't mostly people who read the story.
Wizards tends to overcompensate when they see backlash. I'd wager they will (wisely) keep the Eldrazi tucked away for a while. Trotting them out every couple years makes them less special.