I think this sets a great precedent. Wizards can reprint the various masters sets with zero development costs, so this gives them an easy way to profit from the popularity of non-rotating formats.
As long as they are careful with the size of the print runs and don't completely tank singles prices I don't see any downside. Here's hoping for MM1 next.
I think this sets a great precedent. Wizards can reprint the various masters sets with zero development costs, so this gives them an easy way to profit from the popularity of non-rotating formats.
As long as they are careful with the size of the print runs and don't completely tank singles prices I don't see any downside. Here's hoping for MM1 next.
It costs them time away from developing other products, new cards, stories, just to make a decent 'balanced' limited product.
It is an easy way to profit off of non-rotating formats, that's the scary part. Instead of the usual $4, it costs $10 for a chance at a good rare/mythic or the otentially foil good uncommon. But when the set is 90% crud, it isn't worth it outside of a couple drafts.
They should not be careful with the size of the print runs. Tanking singles prices hurts only two groups; Second Hand Sellers, Collectors selling out their old stock of cards being reprinted.
There is no obligation to either of these groups to assure the value of their product. There shouldn't be. When will Vorinclex get reprinted? Doubling Season is wildly popular, and costs a bit. Does it really help those non-rotating formats when cards in it are $10, $20, $30 a piece? Nope. People can't play the decks they want in the format they want withotu dropping some change, and then, where do they play it? They better hope there is a healthy scene to get the full value of use.
Those two examples are way more popular in a non-tournament format, though. As singles of them are all you need, and with no way to run a decent event, meaning wizards can't make money off entry/hosting fees, there is zero to none interest from their side to reprint. Go on and show me some Vorinclex or Doubling Season decks for Legacy or Modern.
No non-reserved list card outside of standard should be more than $20. The game is literally at that point, Pay To Win, because your deck is just superior.
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While I generally agree with the sentiment dLANCER, You are wrong about one key point. Wizards does have an obligation to second hand sellers, because those people are the ones who actually buy product from wizards. We dont buy products from WOTC, we buy from secondary or tertiary retailers. Wizards has to respect the needs of the local retailers or the core of their distribution network would fall apart.
While I generally agree with the sentiment dLANCER, You are wrong about one key point. Wizards does have an obligation to second hand sellers, because those people are the ones who actually buy product from wizards. We dont buy products from WOTC, we buy from secondary or tertiary retailers. Wizards has to respect the needs of the local retailers or the core of their distribution network would fall apart.
You certainly have a point, but we've seen cards tank in price before and retailers had no problem with that. Examples of this would be the allied fetchlands, and cards recently reprinted in Conspiracy 2. Were retailers mad when the fetches went from $80-$120 down to $8-$12 or when Show and Tell went from $50 to ~$20?
Do they print enough quality products to sell at a fair value that get sold?
I don't know the details of being a distributor or a store. But you don't buy the product at 10% less than the MSRP, then double the price because you 'have to make a profit.'
Make a competent product, (Old Duel Decks, PDS, even dare to say CArsenal) worth the price tag, and it will sell.
Make a garbage product, (Current Duel Decks, arguably Intro Decks, EMA) not worth the price tag, and it will gather dust.
It does them no service to make the box with the cards have very little interest and complain no one buys it. FTV Lore was neat for all of 10 seconds when you were getting a niche token and Umezawa's Jitte. Stable price of it is $41. FTV Dragons - $200, FTV Legends $120, FTV Exiled $250, FTV Realms $250, FTV Relics $180, FTV 20 $120. The only thing close to it in value is the awful FTV Annihilation at $35. Last year's FTV Angels is creeping to $70.
I can only speak for things I saw myself, but Angels came out and was selling for $50-55. A small creep up. Lore staying so low after release and having very little of interest, Near-Death Experience, does not help Wizards or the Secondary sellers when they can't sell the low-EV product even at the MSRP.
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There is no excuse for the quality of recent supplemental products. I'm just not sure how feasible it is to push prices down to that level without causing some serious community push back.
Stores who have outlayed thousands to invest in modern/legacy staples lose huge amounts when their stock falls to 20% of its' previous value. If they released a standard level reprint of modern masters 3, regular booster price, containing fetch lands, damnation, goyf, lili, snap caster, ancestral vision, etc, basically pack it with value so that every rare is a valuable and powerful card, it would sell in very high quantities however there are two questions I would be interested in examining:
1 - would stores recover sufficient revenue from the sale of those boosters to cover the losses associated with the devaluation of stock
2 - would the community, particularly those already invested in modern/legacy be happy with this across a significant majority.
It's not good enough to make 60-70% of the people happy in this case, you really need an 80-90% approval rate because the people who are not happy are going to be extremely not happy. The people against wide scale reprints are vehemently against it and would lose faith in the brand.
For what it's worth, I would be in the reprint everything camp. However, I represent players with 5 or less years experience who do not have a vast collection of older cards, or an abundance of modern/legacy staples.
They should not be careful with the size of the print runs. Tanking singles prices hurts only two groups; Second Hand Sellers, Collectors selling out their old stock of cards being reprinted.
This is getting way off topic, but don't forget 3) People who just bought a Modern deck. If you just got into Modern, and spent $500 on a set of 'Goyfs, you are going to be incredibly pissed if WOTC announces that they're going to print it into the ground. That's part of retention - you want to keep your new players playing. Sharp price adjustments like that are bad for the people who are starting out.
As far as stuff like Vorinclex and Doubling Season, they're getting older and popular. And while, yes, they're primarily casual cards, the market research that WOTC lets us see points to the fact that casuals buy the most cards. If the cards are guaranteed to take a value-nosedive, then people will be disinclined to open packs. Everyone who opens a pack (who isn't playing a limited format) is hoping that they'll open a card that's worth more than what they paid for the pack. Otherwise they'd just buy singles. Having cards be expensive sells packs for WOTC. Having cards gain in value sells packs because now people have the expectation that they can open something that might not be worth a ton now (Vorinclex was less than the price of a pack when he was in Standard - I picked up several in a bulk NPH lot that I bought [and, lest anyone think that I'm bragging, traded them all at far less than they're at now]), they might be worth something later. We can see the same phenomenon with Eternal Masters packs. Why would I ever buy a pack at $10 unless I had a reasonable expectation of a solid return? If WOTC isn't careful with managing the size of the print run, nobody would ever buy another Masters product. Remember that nothing that they do is for us. It's all about pack sales.
I agree that EMA was somewhat disappointing (not as bad as MM2, though), but printing anything into the ground is not the answer.
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Just bought two boxes for 150 euro each, which is an appropriate price I think. Not to get your money back in cards, but to get some cards you need and to have fun drafting this product, which is exactly what I will do.
And @ Wizards: Just reprint the most valuable mythics and rares each year in a modern masters 20xx and make it affordable.
I know I know, but one can dream...
Where did you find them for 150E?
I know my LGS is selling them for $200 and packs for $10.
Before the announcement, he was selling packs for $15
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4 karn liberated
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4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Why would anyone invest in a card they will just reprint at a moment's whim? Invest in reserved list cards. It's a more safe investment. Invest and modern should not be in the same sentence.
Why would anyone invest in a card they will just reprint at a moment's whim? Invest in reserved list cards. It's a more safe investment. Invest and modern should not be in the same sentence.
A word of warning. "Investing" in the Reserved List has the same risks as any other card not on the Reserved List. WoTC has changed the list before, both put cards on and taken cards off. The Reserved List isn't some iron clad law that Wizards can never change, it has happened before and can happen again. There are the same risks as normal cards, just the chance of it happening is lower. (Note: this isn't me saying I'm for or against it, nor do I wish to take this thread into that discussion, just a friendly warning to those that are thinking of "investing" into Reserved List cards.)
Why would anyone invest in a card they will just reprint at a moment's whim? Invest in reserved list cards. It's a more safe investment. Invest and modern should not be in the same sentence.
Buying goyfs to play your modern Jund deck isn't "investing" in the traditional sense. You are buying into the format with the expectation that you could sell out without losing too much money. It's not that you're looking to make money, just not have $500 turn in $100 overnight.
The people who would be investing are store owners, and they invest in modern cards because that's their business.
Why would anyone invest in a card they will just reprint at a moment's whim? Invest in reserved list cards. It's a more safe investment. Invest and modern should not be in the same sentence.
A word of warning. "Investing" in the Reserved List has the same risks as any other card not on the Reserved List. WoTC has changed the list before, both put cards on and taken cards off. The Reserved List isn't some iron clad law that Wizards can never change, it has happened before and can happen again. There are the same risks as normal cards, just the chance of it happening is lower. (Note: this isn't me saying I'm for or against it, nor do I wish to take this thread into that discussion, just a friendly warning to those that are thinking of "investing" into Reserved List cards.)
Also, a lot of the cards on the RL can actually decrease in value. They are not 100% guaranteed to retain value just because they are reserved, a lot of the cards are valuable because of their playability. If the Legacy format fades away, the demand for revised duals will fade with them, along with their value. I`m not in the camp that is worried about that happening for a long, long time, but it`s the most relevant and relatable example I can come up with.
Now these should all be safer than non-reserved modern cards, but if we`ve learned something from the Modern Masters sets so far, it`s that WotC likes to bring prices down slowly and gently, doing their best not to crash Modern staples in one swoop. The sets are limited because Goyf owners can handle a $30 price drop three times, but would be very upset at a $90 drop overnight, even though we all agree that Goyfs should cost $90 less than they do now. They have to tread gently not to upset customer confidence, it`s just the nature of the beast.
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Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
Problem is they never realize a $90 drop because the qty is so small that prices drop for a short period of time then go back up. I do agree however that it's a slippery slope. If you reprint Goyf enough to get the price reasonable, other cards in the set might become near worthless.
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There're enough cards that are hoarded and speculated to the heavens; please do not worry about sets being worthless. Check the history of casual cards too. Literally thousands of them have been doubled (or more) in price the last 5 years.
Problem is they never realize a $90 drop because the qty is so small that prices drop for a short period of time then go back up. I do agree however that it's a slippery slope. If you reprint Goyf enough to get the price reasonable, other cards in the set might become near worthless.
You may have to explain this logic further. Why would Goyf being cheaper make other cards worthless?
To reduce Goyf prices significantly, one would have to open a lot of MM2017/MM2015/MM2013 Booster Displays. The more boosters are opened, the higher the supply of individual cards of the sets, the lower the individual card prices. Since Goyf is a mythic rare, with high demand, one would have to open far more displays to reduce it's price as it would be the case for a normal rare with low demand. This means that most of the other cards of the Modern Masters sets will drop steeper in price as Goyf will do.
^^^^this
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Got 4 packs, got a Toxic Deluge, Jace the Mind Sculptor, Silvos, Rogue Elemental, Hymn to Tourach and Arcanis, the Omnipotent. And a foil Visara the Dreadful. Not bad and was fun doing pack wars for a bit.
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Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
Had a really fun draft experience with two good foil pulls. Sylvan library and swords to plowshares. Bombed the draft despite the card quality, but had a lot of fun.
$190 seems to be the going price right now, frankly where is should have been at the beginning. I think wizards needs to go back to $7 MSRP for these masters packs and let the secondary market handle the bump at the beginning, but print enough so that values come down to MSRPish.
Most of these cards are getting absorbed in the casual market so the value tumble is inevitable. I wonder how long these boxes will be available for and for for how long at this better price.
Forgive me if I missed something, but I was on Youtube over the weekend and I encountered a few videos claiming that WOTC is lying about this being a second printing, and is simply a second wave of stock held back from the first printing. They were quite displeased with what they considered a falsehood but I had not seen this anywhere else?
Second hand sellers provide a place for you to play MTG. They make
most of their money selling singles. Contrary to popular opinion they do not make that
much money off sealed product due to most of you buying on the internet. Wotc makes a ton of money off the secondary market.
Why on earth do you pay 100 dollars for a booster box, otherwise. If you don't want to play a collectible card game, please see Dominion, monopoly or chess. Most players are collectors and vice versa. This is a collectible card game.
It is comments like this that I am glad that the reserve list exists. If they ever got rid of the reserve list, people would sue Wotc and Wotc would lose. They would lose millions and millions of dollars. Think about it.
People sue because the coffee is too hot or they got too much ice in their drinks. Yes, they modified it twice. That is true. But in their last announcement, they closed all loopholes and changed the language. I can tell that the language was written by a lawyer and it now stands.
Second eternal masters can be had for 175 a box and it is full of legacy staples.
tutors, mother of runes, sneak attack, force of will, sinkhole, entomb, sylvan library, wasteland Jace, top, Karakas, mongoose was printed at common for heaven's sake. They even reprinted chain lightning, plow, cabal therapy in the same set. There
were powerhouse cards printed for pauper, EDH and cube. Wotc did a great job in design. You ARE NOT GOING TO GET 100% OF LEGACY REPRINTS IN SET. Eternal master's already pushed the envelope in terms of reprints. They went overboard all of you should be happy. All the whining and belly aching is unbelievable.
Lastly, the price has dropped to 7 per pack. You have greater chance at pulling value out of an eternal masters's pack that then any 4 dollar standard booster.
There are more legacy staples in eternal masters than conspiracy by a mile.
I'm hoping they just print modern masters at normal booster box prices and just quit it with the "premium" foil in every pack.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I'm hoping they just print modern masters at normal booster box prices and just quit it with the "premium" foil in every pack.
I'm a foil collector, but I do have to agree with that 100%.
Some of the justifications are ridiculous at times. For example, some GP organizers exploit the foil promo giveaway and jack up the entry just because the original foil is worth a lot. Monkey see, monkey do. You can't fully blame the organizers if the people above them are doing the same nonsense.
As long as they are careful with the size of the print runs and don't completely tank singles prices I don't see any downside. Here's hoping for MM1 next.
It costs them time away from developing other products, new cards, stories, just to make a decent 'balanced' limited product.
It is an easy way to profit off of non-rotating formats, that's the scary part. Instead of the usual $4, it costs $10 for a chance at a good rare/mythic or the otentially foil good uncommon. But when the set is 90% crud, it isn't worth it outside of a couple drafts.
They should not be careful with the size of the print runs. Tanking singles prices hurts only two groups; Second Hand Sellers, Collectors selling out their old stock of cards being reprinted.
There is no obligation to either of these groups to assure the value of their product. There shouldn't be. When will Vorinclex get reprinted? Doubling Season is wildly popular, and costs a bit. Does it really help those non-rotating formats when cards in it are $10, $20, $30 a piece? Nope. People can't play the decks they want in the format they want withotu dropping some change, and then, where do they play it? They better hope there is a healthy scene to get the full value of use.
Those two examples are way more popular in a non-tournament format, though. As singles of them are all you need, and with no way to run a decent event, meaning wizards can't make money off entry/hosting fees, there is zero to none interest from their side to reprint. Go on and show me some Vorinclex or Doubling Season decks for Legacy or Modern.
No non-reserved list card outside of standard should be more than $20. The game is literally at that point, Pay To Win, because your deck is just superior.
Selling some cards I don't want.
Generally less than tcg mid.
You certainly have a point, but we've seen cards tank in price before and retailers had no problem with that. Examples of this would be the allied fetchlands, and cards recently reprinted in Conspiracy 2. Were retailers mad when the fetches went from $80-$120 down to $8-$12 or when Show and Tell went from $50 to ~$20?
Do they print enough quality products to sell at a fair value that get sold?
I don't know the details of being a distributor or a store. But you don't buy the product at 10% less than the MSRP, then double the price because you 'have to make a profit.'
Make a competent product, (Old Duel Decks, PDS, even dare to say CArsenal) worth the price tag, and it will sell.
Make a garbage product, (Current Duel Decks, arguably Intro Decks, EMA) not worth the price tag, and it will gather dust.
It does them no service to make the box with the cards have very little interest and complain no one buys it. FTV Lore was neat for all of 10 seconds when you were getting a niche token and Umezawa's Jitte. Stable price of it is $41. FTV Dragons - $200, FTV Legends $120, FTV Exiled $250, FTV Realms $250, FTV Relics $180, FTV 20 $120. The only thing close to it in value is the awful FTV Annihilation at $35. Last year's FTV Angels is creeping to $70.
I can only speak for things I saw myself, but Angels came out and was selling for $50-55. A small creep up. Lore staying so low after release and having very little of interest, Near-Death Experience, does not help Wizards or the Secondary sellers when they can't sell the low-EV product even at the MSRP.
Selling some cards I don't want.
Generally less than tcg mid.
Stores who have outlayed thousands to invest in modern/legacy staples lose huge amounts when their stock falls to 20% of its' previous value. If they released a standard level reprint of modern masters 3, regular booster price, containing fetch lands, damnation, goyf, lili, snap caster, ancestral vision, etc, basically pack it with value so that every rare is a valuable and powerful card, it would sell in very high quantities however there are two questions I would be interested in examining:
1 - would stores recover sufficient revenue from the sale of those boosters to cover the losses associated with the devaluation of stock
2 - would the community, particularly those already invested in modern/legacy be happy with this across a significant majority.
It's not good enough to make 60-70% of the people happy in this case, you really need an 80-90% approval rate because the people who are not happy are going to be extremely not happy. The people against wide scale reprints are vehemently against it and would lose faith in the brand.
For what it's worth, I would be in the reprint everything camp. However, I represent players with 5 or less years experience who do not have a vast collection of older cards, or an abundance of modern/legacy staples.
This is getting way off topic, but don't forget 3) People who just bought a Modern deck. If you just got into Modern, and spent $500 on a set of 'Goyfs, you are going to be incredibly pissed if WOTC announces that they're going to print it into the ground. That's part of retention - you want to keep your new players playing. Sharp price adjustments like that are bad for the people who are starting out.
As far as stuff like Vorinclex and Doubling Season, they're getting older and popular. And while, yes, they're primarily casual cards, the market research that WOTC lets us see points to the fact that casuals buy the most cards. If the cards are guaranteed to take a value-nosedive, then people will be disinclined to open packs. Everyone who opens a pack (who isn't playing a limited format) is hoping that they'll open a card that's worth more than what they paid for the pack. Otherwise they'd just buy singles. Having cards be expensive sells packs for WOTC. Having cards gain in value sells packs because now people have the expectation that they can open something that might not be worth a ton now (Vorinclex was less than the price of a pack when he was in Standard - I picked up several in a bulk NPH lot that I bought [and, lest anyone think that I'm bragging, traded them all at far less than they're at now]), they might be worth something later. We can see the same phenomenon with Eternal Masters packs. Why would I ever buy a pack at $10 unless I had a reasonable expectation of a solid return? If WOTC isn't careful with managing the size of the print run, nobody would ever buy another Masters product. Remember that nothing that they do is for us. It's all about pack sales.
I agree that EMA was somewhat disappointing (not as bad as MM2, though), but printing anything into the ground is not the answer.
I know my LGS is selling them for $200 and packs for $10.
Before the announcement, he was selling packs for $15
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
A word of warning. "Investing" in the Reserved List has the same risks as any other card not on the Reserved List. WoTC has changed the list before, both put cards on and taken cards off. The Reserved List isn't some iron clad law that Wizards can never change, it has happened before and can happen again. There are the same risks as normal cards, just the chance of it happening is lower. (Note: this isn't me saying I'm for or against it, nor do I wish to take this thread into that discussion, just a friendly warning to those that are thinking of "investing" into Reserved List cards.)
Buying goyfs to play your modern Jund deck isn't "investing" in the traditional sense. You are buying into the format with the expectation that you could sell out without losing too much money. It's not that you're looking to make money, just not have $500 turn in $100 overnight.
The people who would be investing are store owners, and they invest in modern cards because that's their business.
Now these should all be safer than non-reserved modern cards, but if we`ve learned something from the Modern Masters sets so far, it`s that WotC likes to bring prices down slowly and gently, doing their best not to crash Modern staples in one swoop. The sets are limited because Goyf owners can handle a $30 price drop three times, but would be very upset at a $90 drop overnight, even though we all agree that Goyfs should cost $90 less than they do now. They have to tread gently not to upset customer confidence, it`s just the nature of the beast.
Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
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Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
There're more things to worry about in Magic.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
You may have to explain this logic further. Why would Goyf being cheaper make other cards worthless?
^^^^this
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Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
Most of these cards are getting absorbed in the casual market so the value tumble is inevitable. I wonder how long these boxes will be available for and for for how long at this better price.
Does anyone else have anything about this?
Second hand sellers provide a place for you to play MTG. They make
most of their money selling singles. Contrary to popular opinion they do not make that
much money off sealed product due to most of you buying on the internet. Wotc makes a ton of money off the secondary market.
Why on earth do you pay 100 dollars for a booster box, otherwise. If you don't want to play a collectible card game, please see Dominion, monopoly or chess. Most players are collectors and vice versa. This is a collectible card game.
It is comments like this that I am glad that the reserve list exists. If they ever got rid of the reserve list, people would sue Wotc and Wotc would lose. They would lose millions and millions of dollars. Think about it.
People sue because the coffee is too hot or they got too much ice in their drinks. Yes, they modified it twice. That is true. But in their last announcement, they closed all loopholes and changed the language. I can tell that the language was written by a lawyer and it now stands.
Second eternal masters can be had for 175 a box and it is full of legacy staples.
tutors, mother of runes, sneak attack, force of will, sinkhole, entomb, sylvan library, wasteland Jace, top, Karakas, mongoose was printed at common for heaven's sake. They even reprinted chain lightning, plow, cabal therapy in the same set. There
were powerhouse cards printed for pauper, EDH and cube. Wotc did a great job in design. You ARE NOT GOING TO GET 100% OF LEGACY REPRINTS IN SET. Eternal master's already pushed the envelope in terms of reprints. They went overboard all of you should be happy. All the whining and belly aching is unbelievable.
Lastly, the price has dropped to 7 per pack. You have greater chance at pulling value out of an eternal masters's pack that then any 4 dollar standard booster.
There are more legacy staples in eternal masters than conspiracy by a mile.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I'm a foil collector, but I do have to agree with that 100%.
Some of the justifications are ridiculous at times. For example, some GP organizers exploit the foil promo giveaway and jack up the entry just because the original foil is worth a lot. Monkey see, monkey do. You can't fully blame the organizers if the people above them are doing the same nonsense.
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I doubt this was reprinted. WotC likely held back supply in their warehouses to roll it out for the holiday season.
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