Rare lands won't be the same in each deck.
One deck with a strong tribal theme with Cavern of souls, one with a strong artifact theme with Glimmervoid are very possible.
Wotc often puts 1 or 2 Chase reprints in each decks, and these could be lands.
They could also make 2 new lands but that would be the maximum (1 edh special like the filter-command tower someone designed on this thread and 1 new land legacy playable.)
I get that, but if you put Cavern in a deck, it'll sell out immediately and ruin the demand for other decks. Just like True-Name Nemesis a few years back. I think the only way to put that land in there is if you put it in all 5. That would make all sell well and be good for Wizards.
Not necessarily. Wurmcoil Engine reprint did not have this impact for example.
And if each deck have true good reprints that should make all of them attractive.
Cavern is a card that makes more sense here than in a Modern Masters product because it really fits what the deck would do/want.
There are few cards that have the same value, reprint need and reprint sense but one different in each deck should be feasible.
Wurmcoil was close, but wasn't a $50 staple that is a 4 of in multiple formats. I think the surge to buy that deck would be very big.
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Whenever anyone here suggests a card, they should do market research to check if that card's price would exceed the MSRP of the decks themselves ($34.99). Search StarCity or your LGS. If the card regularly fetches a price higher than $35, printing it in precons is very risky.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
As long as they print to demand, it doesn't matter how much a reprinted card was worth before the reprint. For example, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician was worth a whole bunch before its reprint.
According to MaRo previews are going to start in a week from today. Read it on his blog. How am I supposed to wait that long?
That's actually still a week sooner than I would have expected. We should count ourselves lucky. Historically it's started the Monday less than 2 weeks prior to release, which would have been the 31st. Maybe moved for Halloween?
I do wish they'd partially spoil stuff way early, though. The first commander release was super fun with the packaging spoils giving away partial text on the commanders. I can wait until 2 weeks prior for the non-legend cards, but dammit, I want to start brewing now!
According to MaRo previews are going to start in a week from today. Read it on his blog. How am I supposed to wait that long?
That's actually still a week sooner than I would have expected. We should count ourselves lucky. Historically it's started the Monday less than 2 weeks prior to release, which would have been the 31st. Maybe moved for Halloween?
I do wish they'd partially spoil stuff way early, though. The first commander release was super fun with the packaging spoils giving away partial text on the commanders. I can wait until 2 weeks prior for the non-legend cards, but dammit, I want to start brewing now!
We should make it loud and clear that 0 spoilers before the release week really sucks
Spoilers starting too late frankly. I'm sort of feeling fed up with caring. There's going to be a lot of pressure to deliver with these because I'm ready to pass on them without even knowing what's there.
As long as they print to demand, it doesn't matter how much a reprinted card was worth before the reprint. For example, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician was worth a whole bunch before its reprint.
Tell that to the collectors who will complain very loudly about their cards suddenly crashing in value. $59.99 for a Crucible of Worlds might seem ridiculous to noncollectors, but to a collector that's a tradeable asset. A $9.99 Crucible, much less so.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
As long as they print to demand, it doesn't matter how much a reprinted card was worth before the reprint. For example, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician was worth a whole bunch before its reprint.
Tell that to the collectors who will complain very loudly about their cards suddenly crashing in value. $59.99 for a Crucible of Worlds might seem ridiculous to noncollectors, but to a collector that's a tradeable asset. A $9.99 Crucible, much less so.
Better not reprint anything ever because Magic cards are supposed to increase in value perpetually and never ever fall in value. Magic: The Safe Investening.
As long as they print to demand, it doesn't matter how much a reprinted card was worth before the reprint. For example, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician was worth a whole bunch before its reprint.
Tell that to the collectors who will complain very loudly about their cards suddenly crashing in value. $59.99 for a Crucible of Worlds might seem ridiculous to noncollectors, but to a collector that's a tradeable asset. A $9.99 Crucible, much less so.
You mean there is risk when trying to treat something like a stock market? How strange.
Currently Magic is in dire need of reprints, even more so than in the past with the removal of Core Sets and reprints in general in Standard sets. I mean the biggest reprints so far since the new block structure has been Felidar Sovereign and Dragonmaster Outcast in a Standard set, that is rather embarrassing. The only decent reprint product we've gotten in the last few years has been Conspiracy 2, which is astounding considering we've had 3 reprint only sets with Masters and yet Conspiracy 2 made the whole line its ***** because of how poorly the Masters line is being handled.
As long as a card is off the Reserved List then any collector needs to realize that anything can be reprinted at almost any time, and even if it is on the Reserved List that doesn't mean it can't ever be reprinted. One day there will be a time where they will remove it, and even if they don't they can reduce the price of the cards in other ways, like banning them. Collectors are getting a bit too comfortable with WoTC's lack of reprinting and honestly it isn't surprising. WoTC just refuses to reprint at rates that are comfortable for most, and because of that people believe nothing will change and taking advantage of it, which is a real shame.
Beyond price crashing, there's also the aforementioned problem that putting chase cards like Cavern in a precon product is just asking for "wallet warriors" and scalpers to snap it up. Reprinting expensive multiformat relevant cards is a delicate procedure.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Beyond price crashing, there's also the aforementioned problem that putting chase cards like Cavern in a precon product is just asking for "wallet warriors" and scalpers to snap it up. Reprinting expensive multiformat relevant cards is a delicate procedure.
That is true. We can't expect a $50+ card in these, even if it has happened in the past with P3K cards although they are a special case, but we have seen $20+ card(s) being reprinted before and that isn't absurd to expect something between $10-$20. If the value of the deck is $45-$50 there won't be many scalpers as the value of those cards will slowly fall shortly after, making it not worth their time.
50% extra value from the MSRP will shortly just make the deck(s)/product(s) worth it after the value of the cards drop.
Given how these are not a limited print run product, I can't imagine reprinting an inflated $50 card being a bad idea. All the "wallet warriors" can snag them, and then more will appear on the shelves. And so on in this fashion until people get bored.
Given how these are not a limited print run product, I can't imagine reprinting an inflated $50 card being a bad idea. All the "wallet warriors" can snag them, and then more will appear on the shelves. And so on in this fashion until people get bored.
Except that when the other 4 just sit there, unpurchased, like the non-Mind Seize, non-Daretti decks did, stores stop ordering them. Who wants to sell 1/5 of their inventory and have to store the rest? You really think they'll put a $50 that people actually want in a $30 product five times this fall? Name a commander series that put a $50 card in each deck, let alone the same one, and one that people actually want.
If you really want Cavern of Souls, it is easily obtainable in exchange for 8 hours of work at the federal minimum wage in the US. Personally, I'd rather they spread the value of these decks a bit more.
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Given how these are not a limited print run product, I can't imagine reprinting an inflated $50 card being a bad idea. All the "wallet warriors" can snag them, and then more will appear on the shelves. And so on in this fashion until people get bored.
Except that when the other 4 just sit there, unpurchased, like the non-Mind Seize, non-Daretti decks did, stores stop ordering them. Who wants to sell 1/5 of their inventory and have to store the rest? You really think they'll put a $50 that people actually want in a $30 product five times this fall? Name a commander series that put a $50 card in each deck, let alone the same one, and one that people actually want.
If you really want Cavern of Souls, it is easily obtainable in exchange for 8 hours of work at the federal minimum wage in the US. Personally, I'd rather they spread the value of these decks a bit more.
Additionally, Modern Masters 2017 will have access to Innistrad block cards. So I'm like 90% sure Cavern of Souls is going to be reprinted there.
Staying on the topic at hand though, these late spoilers are really frustrating. I'm going to be buying all five decks anyway, so it isn't about choosing which one or two decks to get, I just want to start brewing already!
For the record about reprints: as someone who only collects the cards to play with them, I find reprints that tank the prices to be annoying too. It's frustrating spending tons of money on a card, only for it to get reprinted and suddenly be worth nothing. I'm not trying to turn magic into an investment, I just don't want to feel like I'm getting ripped off. Having some consistency in the value is important imo. I also think there's value in having cards that are cool, old, and hard to find. It adds to the sense of discovery in the game imo.
Speaking as someone who traded/bought p3k Hua Tuo and a bunch of other cool, valuable, hard to find p3k legends shortly before the 2013 decks got spoiled, and made my collection neither cool, valuable, or hard to find.
Given how these are not a limited print run product, I can't imagine reprinting an inflated $50 card being a bad idea. All the "wallet warriors" can snag them, and then more will appear on the shelves. And so on in this fashion until people get bored.
Except that when the other 4 just sit there, unpurchased, like the non-Mind Seize, non-Daretti decks did, stores stop ordering them. Who wants to sell 1/5 of their inventory and have to store the rest? You really think they'll put a $50 that people actually want in a $30 product five times this fall? Name a commander series that put a $50 card in each deck, let alone the same one, and one that people actually want.
If you really want Cavern of Souls, it is easily obtainable in exchange for 8 hours of work at the federal minimum wage in the US. Personally, I'd rather they spread the value of these decks a bit more.
Additionally, Modern Masters 2017 will have access to Innistrad block cards. So I'm like 90% sure Cavern of Souls is going to be reprinted there.
Staying on the topic at hand though, these late spoilers are really frustrating. I'm going to be buying all five decks anyway, so it isn't about choosing which one or two decks to get, I just want to start brewing already!
I agree I'm almost positive cavern of souls will get reprinted there.
I think it would be INCREDIBLE if Wizards were to reprint 2 Filter Lands in each Commander deck. I know the chances of this are about 0%, but their printing would make sure they stay nice and low in price as theyre starting to creep up again, on top of saving land room in the upcoming Modern Masters 2017. We're gonna need some kind of lands to make 4-color Precon Commander decks to work.
I fully except each Commander deck will have a brand new land that comes into play tapped, but taps for 1 of 4 different colors.
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I don't see them using resources on land cards. they know the market price of things, and they generally focus on non land cards. Specially if they are thematic. I expect a cheap mana base (maybe 3-4 land interesting reprints) and the other mainly focused on those cards. Things like coalition relic.
All the people want a good mana base and they should have one in this product. This is what people want and expect...
Wizards doesn't usually if ever respond to what people expect. I mean just look at our commander werewolf. Does he make werewolf tribal a thing in edh? No.
WotC regularly responds to what people expect. Definitively. Just... without a doubt. It's honestly ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
Theros and Innistrad were both basically founded on doing what people expected in portraying a concept. Vehicles were made because it was something people expected to see on a world like Kaladesh.
Citing a single case where they didn't do exactly what people expected in absolutely no way supports your claim, because, literally, basic logic. And the example you cited only goes towards proving you wrong because while they didn't do exactly what people expected, the legendary werewolf being done was specifically in response to what people expected. Keep in mind that WotC is working years ahead of what we are seeing and that 'what people expect' is the community as a whole not whatever sections you happen to listen to.
I'm sick of these 'I am butthurt, therefore WotC does not care about the playerbase' sort of arguments. Have some intellectual rigour with your criticism.
All the people want a good mana base and they should have one in this product. This is what people want and expect...
Depends what you mean by good. The decks will have totally functional manabases that support 4 color decks, but they'll also probably have a lot of taplands rather than better duals. Expecting them to reprint lots of duals worth something in these decks is unreasonable; it's simply not something they can do without having the decks snatched up to be cannibalized for lands. They can afford to include checklands probably, and maybe painlands if we're pushing it. (Allied painlands are getting somewhat up there because of lack of availability, but they're not played enough to my knowledge to justify decks getting bought out for them)
I wouldn't expect filterlands, shocks, or anything like that in these products.
I'm sick of these 'I am butthurt, therefore WotC does not care about the playerbase' sort of arguments. Have some intellectual rigour with your criticism.
I mean, it's some totally unintuitive idea. Wizards is inherently motivated to provide it's playerbase with an attractive product. There's absolutely no reason they wouldn't listen to the playerbase.
We've already established that the non-green one is going to be Urza because hype. And since decapitated heads are lame it must be a historic setting. Which means Ice Age which means snow-covered Taiga/Plateau etc is confirmed. You're welcome.
The problem is older cards are too powerful, for current standard. Lightning bolt may never see another reprint in standard. With them printing supplementary sets(modern masters, eternal masters, etc.) I think this was a big reason they took away core sets to begin with is, so they could reprint some of the other cards in supplementary product
I mean, it's some totally unintuitive idea. Wizards is inherently motivated to provide it's playerbase with an attractive product. There's absolutely no reason they wouldn't listen to the playerbase.
Their reprint policy kind of proves their unwillingness to listen.
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Wurmcoil was close, but wasn't a $50 staple that is a 4 of in multiple formats. I think the surge to buy that deck would be very big.
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RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
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EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I do wish they'd partially spoil stuff way early, though. The first commander release was super fun with the packaging spoils giving away partial text on the commanders. I can wait until 2 weeks prior for the non-legend cards, but dammit, I want to start brewing now!
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
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Commander starts next week
I guess my last birthday gift will be next week (it's tomorrow not today.)
But it fits the bill I have been hearing near Halloween.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Tell that to the collectors who will complain very loudly about their cards suddenly crashing in value. $59.99 for a Crucible of Worlds might seem ridiculous to noncollectors, but to a collector that's a tradeable asset. A $9.99 Crucible, much less so.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Better not reprint anything ever because Magic cards are supposed to increase in value perpetually and never ever fall in value. Magic: The Safe Investening.
You mean there is risk when trying to treat something like a stock market? How strange.
Currently Magic is in dire need of reprints, even more so than in the past with the removal of Core Sets and reprints in general in Standard sets. I mean the biggest reprints so far since the new block structure has been Felidar Sovereign and Dragonmaster Outcast in a Standard set, that is rather embarrassing. The only decent reprint product we've gotten in the last few years has been Conspiracy 2, which is astounding considering we've had 3 reprint only sets with Masters and yet Conspiracy 2 made the whole line its ***** because of how poorly the Masters line is being handled.
As long as a card is off the Reserved List then any collector needs to realize that anything can be reprinted at almost any time, and even if it is on the Reserved List that doesn't mean it can't ever be reprinted. One day there will be a time where they will remove it, and even if they don't they can reduce the price of the cards in other ways, like banning them. Collectors are getting a bit too comfortable with WoTC's lack of reprinting and honestly it isn't surprising. WoTC just refuses to reprint at rates that are comfortable for most, and because of that people believe nothing will change and taking advantage of it, which is a real shame.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
That is true. We can't expect a $50+ card in these, even if it has happened in the past with P3K cards although they are a special case, but we have seen $20+ card(s) being reprinted before and that isn't absurd to expect something between $10-$20. If the value of the deck is $45-$50 there won't be many scalpers as the value of those cards will slowly fall shortly after, making it not worth their time.
50% extra value from the MSRP will shortly just make the deck(s)/product(s) worth it after the value of the cards drop.
Except that when the other 4 just sit there, unpurchased, like the non-Mind Seize, non-Daretti decks did, stores stop ordering them. Who wants to sell 1/5 of their inventory and have to store the rest? You really think they'll put a $50 that people actually want in a $30 product five times this fall? Name a commander series that put a $50 card in each deck, let alone the same one, and one that people actually want.
If you really want Cavern of Souls, it is easily obtainable in exchange for 8 hours of work at the federal minimum wage in the US. Personally, I'd rather they spread the value of these decks a bit more.
Additionally, Modern Masters 2017 will have access to Innistrad block cards. So I'm like 90% sure Cavern of Souls is going to be reprinted there.
Staying on the topic at hand though, these late spoilers are really frustrating. I'm going to be buying all five decks anyway, so it isn't about choosing which one or two decks to get, I just want to start brewing already!
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Speaking as someone who traded/bought p3k Hua Tuo and a bunch of other cool, valuable, hard to find p3k legends shortly before the 2013 decks got spoiled, and made my collection neither cool, valuable, or hard to find.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
I agree I'm almost positive cavern of souls will get reprinted there.
I fully except each Commander deck will have a brand new land that comes into play tapped, but taps for 1 of 4 different colors.
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WotC regularly responds to what people expect. Definitively. Just... without a doubt. It's honestly ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
Theros and Innistrad were both basically founded on doing what people expected in portraying a concept. Vehicles were made because it was something people expected to see on a world like Kaladesh.
Citing a single case where they didn't do exactly what people expected in absolutely no way supports your claim, because, literally, basic logic. And the example you cited only goes towards proving you wrong because while they didn't do exactly what people expected, the legendary werewolf being done was specifically in response to what people expected. Keep in mind that WotC is working years ahead of what we are seeing and that 'what people expect' is the community as a whole not whatever sections you happen to listen to.
I'm sick of these 'I am butthurt, therefore WotC does not care about the playerbase' sort of arguments. Have some intellectual rigour with your criticism.
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Depends what you mean by good. The decks will have totally functional manabases that support 4 color decks, but they'll also probably have a lot of taplands rather than better duals. Expecting them to reprint lots of duals worth something in these decks is unreasonable; it's simply not something they can do without having the decks snatched up to be cannibalized for lands. They can afford to include checklands probably, and maybe painlands if we're pushing it. (Allied painlands are getting somewhat up there because of lack of availability, but they're not played enough to my knowledge to justify decks getting bought out for them)
I wouldn't expect filterlands, shocks, or anything like that in these products.
I mean, it's some totally unintuitive idea. Wizards is inherently motivated to provide it's playerbase with an attractive product. There's absolutely no reason they wouldn't listen to the playerbase.
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
Their reprint policy kind of proves their unwillingness to listen.