I belive he has drawn the peaks/points of the criptolits on the moon and then he drew the lines to connect them. I think that's wrong but at least he's trying something.
I belive he has drawn the peaks/points of the criptolits on the moon and then he drew the lines to connect them. I think that's wrong but at least he's trying something.
Hah, thanks! Trying to break this thing is fun.
Current theory is that the shapes are a matching game, not letters, as the shapes formed show 3 pairs of remarkably similar symbols.
I think Spanish is a D not a P. If you use the directions of the cryptoliths instead of trying to assign them to clock points, both the 1st and last cryptolith point straight up. Drawing the letter on the moon with the same start and finish gives a "D".
Using the addition of the 1-10 positions I suggested earlier, German gives us 23 and Portuguese 27 - potentially W and A (given that 1-3 are impossible if position 1 = 1, so minimum total is 4, it would make sense to use 27-29 for A-C). T, U, R, S, W and A so far? Just one possibility.
Do we know what's going to be in the prerelease boxes yet? Could it contain a paper insert with some letters or something on it, for which the poster acts as a "decoder ring"?
Because it seems to me that they'd want:
A - People at the prerelease who'd never seen the poster before to be able to solve the puzzle, and
B - For it not to be cracked weeks ahead of time by the internet.
Those goals would be accomplished much better by combining something in the prerelease box (or on the box itself) with the poster than by an elaborate positional code based on having access to every language's version of the poster. And the differences between posters could be no more mysterious than each hidden message being in the appropriate local language and thus requiring a different message card.
A - People at the prerelease who'd never seen the poster before to be able to solve the puzzle, and
B - For it not to be cracked weeks ahead of time by the internet.
About B: if that was true, it would make no sense for the site layout to have containers for 4 card spoilers, since by then the whole set would be known.
New idea: As I'm adding up the clock positions I'm not getting any repetition between totals. Purely taking the clockface numbers as the ones to use, I get 19 (Spanish), 21 (Russian), 22 (Japanese), 23 (English), 25 (German), 30 (Portuguese). What if these are the numbers that determine the order, and it's the Tamiyo's Journal entry numbers that we then need to arrange in the order of these numbers? I still don't really get those journal entry numbers though. Why are there so many bunched between 433 and 443, then four outliers in the 5, 6, 7 and 900s?
New idea: As I'm adding up the clock positions I'm not getting any repetition between totals. Purely taking the clockface numbers as the ones to use, I get 19 (Spanish), 21 (Russian), 22 (Japanese), 23 (English), 25 (German), 30 (Portuguese). What if these are the numbers that determine the order, and it's the Tamiyo's Journal entry numbers that we then need to arrange in the order of these numbers? I still don't really get those journal entry numbers though. Why are there so many bunched between 433 and 443, then four outliers in the 5, 6, 7 and 900s?
Splitting the difference, I get 24 for German, but yea, that's interesting. 'Cept Portugal is way out ahead of the others. Wonder why that is...
Were there different journal entry numbers for CS and CT? Looks like we're looking at an 11-letter solution now, not 10. Interestingly, at http://magic.wizards.com/shadows the Wizards twitter account has shared someone's posting of "2, 4, 10, 7" with their own added note of 'Number correlations for the English poster.' That seems like they've inadvertently confirmed that the clock face positions is the correct route in some way.
Were there different journal entry numbers for CS and CT? Looks like we're looking at an 11-letter solution now, not 10. Interestingly, at http://magic.wizards.com/shadows the Wizards twitter account has shared someone's posting of "2, 4, 10, 7" with their own added note of 'Number correlations for the English poster.' That seems like they've inadvertently confirmed that the clock face positions is the correct route in some way.
The number for the CS and CT cards were the same. Still don't see a solid source for saying there'll be two different ones for those...
And yea. WotC is definitely pushing the clock face route hard, though the posts they shared are incorrect, so that's odd.
This is a stretch but maybe the numbers are in base 26 and each digit matches a letter so English Tamiyo's Journal 434 entry would be 18 in base 26 which is R.
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Posters (Angles of liths | Journal Entry | Shapes | Clock Positions = Total)
English (60°, 115°, 290°, 210° | 434 | N | 2 4 10 7 = 23)
Japanese (60°, 90°, 230°, 270° | 443 | U | 2 3 8 9 = 22)
Spanish (35°, 150°, 65°, 325° | 935 | P? | 1 5 2 11 = 19)
Russian (30°, 90°, 210°, 295° | 535 | U | 1 3 7 10 = 21)
German (90°, 135°, 285°, 220° | 434 | N | 3 4.5 9.5 7 = 24)
Portuguese (60°, 270°, 325°, 240° | 644 | P? | 2 9 11 8 = 30)
Italian (35°, 210°, 240°, 120° | 433 | R? | 1 7 8 4 = 20)
Korean ( | 435)
French ( | 712)
CT ( | 441)
CS ( | 441)
Letter\Symbol Arrangement by Journal Entry?
R N N _ _ _ U U P _ P
Possibly a matching game? (Match the pairs of symbols/letters)
where are the letter arrangements coming from?
I belive he has drawn the peaks/points of the criptolits on the moon and then he drew the lines to connect them. I think that's wrong but at least he's trying something.
Modern: UB Zombie hunt UB - WR Boros tokens WR - BGW Treefolk tribal BGW
Commander: UR Mizzix, a Storm of spells UR (Decklist)
Hah, thanks! Trying to break this thing is fun.
Current theory is that the shapes are a matching game, not letters, as the shapes formed show 3 pairs of remarkably similar symbols.
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/711969188701601792
edit: Also, I don't think any of the arrows point at 11 or 12 on a clock face so I'm guessing they represent digits 0-9.
Could it be that we are mistaken with some of the letters?
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RIP Batman guy. I hope somebody picks up the slack now that you are gone. Sick children need their Batman.
Really? Huh. Where at?
Because it seems to me that they'd want:
A - People at the prerelease who'd never seen the poster before to be able to solve the puzzle, and
B - For it not to be cracked weeks ahead of time by the internet.
Those goals would be accomplished much better by combining something in the prerelease box (or on the box itself) with the poster than by an elaborate positional code based on having access to every language's version of the poster. And the differences between posters could be no more mysterious than each hidden message being in the appropriate local language and thus requiring a different message card.
About B: if that was true, it would make no sense for the site layout to have containers for 4 card spoilers, since by then the whole set would be known.
Standard
BWC Eldrazi
UBR Grixis Tutelage
Modern
UR Storm
Legacy
Landless Dredge
Pauper
U Delver
Commander
UR Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Splitting the difference, I get 24 for German, but yea, that's interesting. 'Cept Portugal is way out ahead of the others. Wonder why that is...
The number for the CS and CT cards were the same. Still don't see a solid source for saying there'll be two different ones for those...
And yea. WotC is definitely pushing the clock face route hard, though the posts they shared are incorrect, so that's odd.
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/711976612426682368
Whelp, that's definitely certain then. I guess my pairs idea is shot, now :\