Okay, this card can be stupidly stupid. The fact it's an uncommon baffles me. This card is REALLY strong. The fact it has evasion is a major plus. While 6 mana might seem expensive, it can be a 12/12 by the time it comes out. And it can take a giant dump on your opponent's planeswalkers, though obviously it can take a giant dump on your own, too. Really good card, really good flavor. And this + Dark Depths. nuff said.
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So if the vampire removes +2 counters from a creature it wont get +2 but +1 from that creature?
Any counter it removes gives it a +1/+1 counter.
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Great.. so basically counter it or lose all my super friends.
That was my first thought, as well. This is a good card - it disrupts so many cards and deck archetypes. You spend a bunch of resources building things up and then poof - there's a really big vampire on the table. I hate the card, but I can't wait to run it in some of my other decks.
I don't think this hoses much except for the most dedicated strategies that use counters, and after that it's just a Big Dumb Beater. Not terrible, not broken, just a good solid card that can play a role if needed. A single creature that is just a large flier is generally not a huge threat in a multiplayer game unless if everyone else has run out of resources. I think it's fine.
Uncommon just means it is in both black decks as opposed to only one, so I think it being an uncommon is totally appropriate if it is in both black decks. Why should it be a rare? Doesn't make any sense at anything other than uncommon if it is in both black decks based on how rarity in the commander products works.
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Oona, Queen of the Fae
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Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I'll pretend I care about Haste or Hexproof as I'm reanimation abusing this to trash anything with counters in the game. Trust me, I don't care if you take any damage from it or not - that's not why anyone would actually play it.
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Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Great.. so basically counter it or lose all my super friends.
Yay!!!
A "fun police" card quashing an archetype which already struggles in EDH...
Totally called for!
Planeswalkers are generally pretty poor in Commander, seems a bit redundant to worry about them getting hosed
That was sort of his point - planeswalkers are already tough to run, and this card makes it that much harder to run a dedicated superfriends deck. The worry wasn't redundant - the ease of hosing planeswalkers was.
In what universe? If you build a deck like that, and ever draw that hand, I will personally come to wherever you live, perform complicated acts of awestruck ********, then disembowel myself to escape the world that allowed something like this to occur and validate you.
My Derevi Proliferate deck just weeps in terror. And my friend playin' super friends isn't stoked about this either. We're sure 1 or 2 people are going to use the card just to hose our decks.
And this will be way harder than a wrath. This is one-sided deck removal.
I'm really not fond of this card and Bane of Progress. Though Bane actually punishes yourself fairly well. This though? Hoses some weak+fun decks completly out of the game while not really bringing anything interesting to the table. Counter it or lose. *yawn*
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You say conditional, but after turn 5 or 6 I rarely see boards where this dude wouldn't be big when he drops. Counters are everywhere.
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
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Any counter it removes gives it a +1/+1 counter.
On phasing:
Great.. so basically counter it or lose all my super friends.
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Uncommon just means it is in both black decks as opposed to only one, so I think it being an uncommon is totally appropriate if it is in both black decks. Why should it be a rare? Doesn't make any sense at anything other than uncommon if it is in both black decks based on how rarity in the commander products works.
Yay!!!
A "fun police" card quashing an archetype which already struggles in EDH...
Totally called for!
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Not that strong of a card though
Planeswalkers are generally pretty poor in Commander, seems a bit redundant to worry about them getting hosed
"When you play a card, sacrifice Juju Bubble."
I'll pretend I care about Haste or Hexproof as I'm reanimation abusing this to trash anything with counters in the game. Trust me, I don't care if you take any damage from it or not - that's not why anyone would actually play it.
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If only they would just print something like Slaughter Games which hits all opponents...
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Juju Bubble was way ahead of its time and packed a suicide pill in case something like this happened.
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And this will be way harder than a wrath. This is one-sided deck removal.
I'm really not fond of this card and Bane of Progress. Though Bane actually punishes yourself fairly well. This though? Hoses some weak+fun decks completly out of the game while not really bringing anything interesting to the table. Counter it or lose. *yawn*