I've been saying Spike Cannibal is incredibly underrated in EDH for a while now. I think it's one of the strongest creatures black has. Glad to be getting another one, even if it costs double for the extra ability to nuke planeswalkers (and dodge torpor orb) too. (Also some combo potential, though we already had Vampire Hexmage for that too.)
Great.. so basically counter it or lose all my super friends.
Yay!!!
A "fun police" card quashing an archetype which already struggles in EDH...
Totally called for!
Planeswalkers are generally pretty poor in Commander, seems a bit redundant to worry about them getting hosed
That was sort of his point - planeswalkers are already tough to run, and this card makes it that much harder to run a dedicated superfriends deck. The worry wasn't redundant - the ease of hosing planeswalkers was.
A dedicated superfriends deck is a weak deck.
A hoser that hoses a terrible strategy is not a good hoser. This card doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things because it hoses bad strategies: I can't say I see many non-super-casual games of Commander that involve a lot of counters. If you are playing one of those games and running a hoser then you are the problem, not the card.
I am surprised this card is getting so much attention, it's rather bad. It is very cool though!
If I had this in Commander deck, it would most likely be a Shadowmoor/Phyrexian deck who benefits from having creatures laddened with -1/-1 counters. Maybe. I know there's at least one 8/8 horror in Shadowmoor that gets four -1/-1 counters, anything else?
But how fun is this and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed? Seriously makes for double undying on your guys and paired with Cauldron of Souls it can be a super fun strategy.
Yeah, this guy has a super cool ability....but I wont be slotting him into Karador unless people start going counter-crazy around here. Best thing it seems to do is combo with Dark Depths and turn back on persist. ('Cause lets get real, people target PW's like their the devil in EDH.)
A dedicated superfriends deck is a weak deck.
A hoser that hoses a terrible strategy is not a good hoser. This card doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things because it hoses bad strategies: I can't say I see many non-super-casual games of Commander that involve a lot of counters. If you are playing one of those games and running a hoser then you are the problem, not the card.
I am surprised this card is getting so much attention, it's rather bad. It is very cool though!
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