Did they say if there is any chance of these being foil?
They said these will be foil (premium mythic)
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Is this a first print run only thing like the last priceless treasures or will they run throughout the set. I just want to know if I can pace my insane pack buying.
This was maybe the worst possible way to reprint the enemy fetchlands. I'm incredibly upset.
It depends on their purpose for the reprints. If they were trying to increase demand and lower price, it was terrible. If they were trying to create bling, it was great. Since they were trying to do the latter, this was great.
Is this a first print run only thing like the last priceless treasures or will they run throughout the set. I just want to know if I can pace my insane pack buying.
Looks like every printing so far, but time (and maros blog) will tell
This was maybe the worst possible way to reprint the enemy fetchlands. I'm incredibly upset.
It depends on their purpose for the reprints. If they were trying to increase demand and lower price, it was terrible. If they were trying to create bling, it was great. Since they were trying to do the latter, this was great.
But I think the problem is that any reprint- however exclusive- either reduces the need or is presented as an excuse to reduce the need for a standard issue reprint in a future set. It's for this reason that Liliana of the Veil is less likely to see a reprint in MM3 because it was issued as a RPTQ promo a couple of months ago. That's why I argue that unless a reprint is logistically out of the question for the next few years, Wizards should prioritize the standard availability of in-demand cards before they go around blinging them out as awesome promos and treasure cards.
I highly doubt the point was to reprint enemy fetches. They're printing them to take the opportunity to print full art non basic lands (something we've never seen) in a set that really really care about lands.
This was maybe the worst possible way to reprint the enemy fetchlands. I'm incredibly upset.
It depends on their purpose for the reprints. If they were trying to increase demand and lower price, it was terrible. If they were trying to create bling, it was great. Since they were trying to do the latter, this was great.
But I think the problem is that any reprint- however exclusive- either reduces the need or is presented as an excuse to reduce the need for a standard issue reprint in a future set. It's for this reason that Liliana of the Veil is less likely to see a reprint in MM3 because it was issued as a RPTQ promo a couple of months ago. That's why I argue that Wizards should prioritize the standard availability of in-demand cards before they go around blinging them out as awesome promos and treasure cards.
One reprint has no impact on future reprints. Most recently see Iona. This does not stop them from printing fetches in any future set. It only means they wanted to create bling. Reading more into is just a waste of time.
I love the spirit of the idea, but this approach to reprinting but not really reprinting highly in-demand cards seems to add more pressure to the market than it does to relieve it. You're not printing nearly enough in order to bring down prices, and what you are printing you're printing as an extremely scarce, exclusive alternate art, alternate border edition so as to make these even more expensive than the out of print cards no one can find or afford to buy in the first place- so what's the point?
I think Wizards should spend more time fixing the problems as they relate to the availability of certain cards before they begin reissuing them as (what are in effect) incredible promos that become even less likely to see a standard issue reprint in the coming years.
But why would they make money solving a problem when they could make money not solving a problem. And then make even more money solving that problem later if they feel like it?
I love the spirit of the idea, but this approach to reprinting but not really reprinting highly in-demand cards seems to add more pressure to the market than it does to relieve it. You're not printing nearly enough in order to bring down prices, and what you are printing you're printing as an extremely scarce, exclusive alternate art, alternate border edition so as to make these even more expensive than the out of print cards no one can find or afford to buy in the first place- so what's the point?
I think Wizards should spend more time fixing the problems as they relate to the availability of certain cards before they begin reissuing them as (what are in effect) incredible promos that become even less likely to see a standard issue reprint in the coming years.
But why would they make money solving a problem when they could make money not solving a problem. And then make even more money solving that problem later if they feel like it?
This also assumes there is a problem that needs to be fixed. Unless you are playing to win at the highest level, there is little reason to spend extra money on enemy fetches over allied fetches. If people didn't HAVE to have perfect mana bases for casual or semi-competitive play the prices would drop as demand dropped. Just my two cents.
Trying to work out 20 for winter, I'm going go speculate on 10 man lands there though
10 Man Lands might work - someone will have to check the templating to see if it will fit on the "full-art" non-basic text box.
Given that, so far, all the spoiled cards care about basic land types - I think the check lands are probably a solid guess for 10 of the cards.
My SWAG would be - they break the reprint policy solely for reprinting the ABU dual lands for the other 10. They are the only other dual land set that fits all of the same features of the current list we know (all deal with basic land types) aside from the Mirage fetches, and there's only 5 of them. I also think there's almost no way they would devalue the originals at the rarity, and the premium nature, so these (and these alone) may not cause too much uproar.
I will be seriously surprised if, when the dust clears, any of these full-art lands are under $150 just due to demand (people who need 4 of all 45). The more popular ones will likely be Tarmogoyf or higher levels.
The shocks will probably be around 100 plus or minus 20 depending on the colors. The fetches are likely to be up around 200 plus or minus 20. Regular foil verdant is 140 the new version will likely be 200 if not more.
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Yes, so no tundra
They are all foil
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They are only foil, which sucks.
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They will only be in foil
Edit: Got beaten to the answer- Twice.
The Reserve List doesn't allow them to reprint anything on it in paper ever. Full art Tundra on MTGO? Possible. In paper? Never going to happen.
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It depends on their purpose for the reprints. If they were trying to increase demand and lower price, it was terrible. If they were trying to create bling, it was great. Since they were trying to do the latter, this was great.
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Looks like every printing so far, but time (and maros blog) will tell
But I think the problem is that any reprint- however exclusive- either reduces the need or is presented as an excuse to reduce the need for a standard issue reprint in a future set. It's for this reason that Liliana of the Veil is less likely to see a reprint in MM3 because it was issued as a RPTQ promo a couple of months ago. That's why I argue that unless a reprint is logistically out of the question for the next few years, Wizards should prioritize the standard availability of in-demand cards before they go around blinging them out as awesome promos and treasure cards.
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One reprint has no impact on future reprints. Most recently see Iona. This does not stop them from printing fetches in any future set. It only means they wanted to create bling. Reading more into is just a waste of time.
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This also assumes there is a problem that needs to be fixed. Unless you are playing to win at the highest level, there is little reason to spend extra money on enemy fetches over allied fetches. If people didn't HAVE to have perfect mana bases for casual or semi-competitive play the prices would drop as demand dropped. Just my two cents.
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10 Man Lands might work - someone will have to check the templating to see if it will fit on the "full-art" non-basic text box.
Given that, so far, all the spoiled cards care about basic land types - I think the check lands are probably a solid guess for 10 of the cards.
My SWAG would be - they break the reprint policy solely for reprinting the ABU dual lands for the other 10. They are the only other dual land set that fits all of the same features of the current list we know (all deal with basic land types) aside from the Mirage fetches, and there's only 5 of them. I also think there's almost no way they would devalue the originals at the rarity, and the premium nature, so these (and these alone) may not cause too much uproar.
I will be seriously surprised if, when the dust clears, any of these full-art lands are under $150 just due to demand (people who need 4 of all 45). The more popular ones will likely be Tarmogoyf or higher levels.
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