HOLY CRAP! The Manifest ability is epic! I love how delve and prowess are back. They are good mechanics. Is this everything!?!?!? I haven't got my fix yet...
Ethereal Ambush is a common. Can't wait to see a mythic Manifest if they have one!! (other than the one we got already, lol)
Use cards like Equilibrium and Cloudstone Curio to return non-creatures that were manifested back to your hand for more use! Works with the other creature you manifest!
It wouldn't work with Equilibrium since you're not playing the spell.
I see I see there being some crazy manifest stuff.
I was expecting them to use Morph as an alternate casting like Suspend, where some would have no normal cost, but would have to come in morphed. Seeing Manifest I don't think that'll happen, but I'm 100% okay with getting manifest instead of that.
Whisperwood Elemental is amazing. A steady stream of threats and wrath protection. What more could you want.
Well, just imagine what the board looks like in draft after he's been in play a few turns. You've cast a morph or two from your hand, put more onto the table with this Elemental. You activate morph and flip up a non-morph creature. Your opponent disputes whether that particular morph came from your hand or the library. If it came from your hand, you've just cheated. Judge comes over, has no friggin idea what happened when and no way to resolve the issue.
The crux of the problem is that this elemental basically gives morph to cards that do not have morph in an enviornment with lots of other cards with morph. There are certainly ways to avoid this -- you're not supposed to move your morphs after you play them -- but they all require cooperation by the players or a lot of record keeping.
Yes, it's not like they're giving us two separate overlay tokens to help us keep track of this stuff or anything.
Loving the new mechanics! I really enjoyed Morph back in my kitchen table days, so it is nice to see its role expanding with the Manifest mechanic. I am curious about what happens if you would manifest a dual-face card. If I recall correctly, the rules state they cannot be placed face-down, so if I was supposed to manifest a Huntsmaster of the Fells, does it just do nothing instead?
Well, just imagine what the board looks like in draft after he's been in play a few turns. You've cast a morph or two from your hand, put more onto the table with this Elemental. You activate morph and flip up a non-morph creature. Your opponent disputes whether that particular morph came from your hand or the library. If it came from your hand, you've just cheated. Judge comes over, has no friggin idea what happened when and no way to resolve the issue.
The crux of the problem is that this elemental basically gives morph to cards that do not have morph in an enviornment with lots of other cards with morph. There are certainly ways to avoid this -- you're not supposed to move your morphs after you play them -- but they all require cooperation by the players or a lot of record keeping.
Yes, it's not like they're giving us two separate overlay tokens to help us keep track of this stuff or anything.
Can't tell if this was sarcastic, so posting...
Wait is that real?
I can't navigate the maddening Kafka-esque hellscape that it the mothership site anymore.
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Acidic Dragon is a Dragon with Creeping Mold? Awesome! Wouldn't be surprised if it triggers from each dragon etbs
OHHH I think I just figured out why the clans are centred the way they are.
The legendary dragons are the allied pairs. The Clans worship one of those dragons so they match their colours, but when it came time to fight and slay those dragons they added the enemy colour to that pair to help fight it.
That green elemental really has standard potential. Sizeable body + free creature + wrath protection all rolled into one. Too bad no one is playing wraths...
I like how they pushed delve. For limited, a 5/5 for 6B with delve basically means a 5/5 for 5 or less. The soulflayer has similar power-to-cost ratio with bonus.
I really like that red is getting card drawing! I really wonder if wizards will end-up regretting it though, as what a burn deck wants is more fuel by throwing double burn every turn.
A nice bunch of limited cards spoiled, too. Now, five open mana doesn't only mean a big unmorph... it could be double-blockers at instant speed.
i love the dragon already good addition to a more agressive mardu shell. not that great in the current mardu "control" deck i think but if you are more agressive with a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 curve this may be pretty good.
the new morph mechanic seems pretty interesting, and i will always pack enough of those new tokens to give my opponent some if he has no, so i can see which morph is which^^
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Acidic Dragon is a Dragon with Creeping Mold? Awesome! Wouldn't be surprised if it triggers from each dragon etbs
Yeah, this was a great teaser. Probably worthy of a thread in the speculation forum.
OHHH I think I just figured out why the clans are centred the way they are.
The legendary dragons are the allied pairs. The Clans worship one of those dragons so they match their colours, but when it came time to fight and slay those dragons they added the enemy colour to that pair to help fight it.
I'm thinking its the other way around actually. The Clans could be mono color, the enemy of the dual colored dragons, and end up add the extra colors when they start worshiping them.
Rageform is going to be annoying in limited. Sure, many time it will be a mere 2/2 double-strike for four mana. But sometimes it will hit a snowhorn rider and end-up a 5/5 double-strike that dominates the game. Like usual red cards, it's a maybe-I-do / maybe-I-don't. I don't like to lose to such high-variance random luck in limited.
The fact that I will be getting a white / green dragon might have made my day (green white is an all color right? Now I might've over thought this). I can only imagine the things he could do, don't dissappoint me wizards!
That Elemental seems really good.Is like making a 2/2 token every turn and with that tokem with potential for been a stronger creature.Thats seems great card advantege.
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You're right! thanks!
I see I see there being some crazy manifest stuff.
I was expecting them to use Morph as an alternate casting like Suspend, where some would have no normal cost, but would have to come in morphed. Seeing Manifest I don't think that'll happen, but I'm 100% okay with getting manifest instead of that.
Whisperwood Elemental is amazing. A steady stream of threats and wrath protection. What more could you want.
If you hate the deck, I'm probably playing it!
Can't tell if this was sarcastic, so posting...
And i'm pretty sure that if a creature with morph somehow is manifested, is possible to turn it face up by both morph cost and mana cost.
Wait is that real?
I can't navigate the maddening Kafka-esque hellscape that it the mothership site anymore.
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Recruit Two Ducklings
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Acidic Dragon is a Dragon with Creeping Mold? Awesome! Wouldn't be surprised if it triggers from each dragon etbs
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Spoiler EditorThe legendary dragons are the allied pairs. The Clans worship one of those dragons so they match their colours, but when it came time to fight and slay those dragons they added the enemy colour to that pair to help fight it.
I like how they pushed delve. For limited, a 5/5 for 6B with delve basically means a 5/5 for 5 or less. The soulflayer has similar power-to-cost ratio with bonus.
I really like that red is getting card drawing! I really wonder if wizards will end-up regretting it though, as what a burn deck wants is more fuel by throwing double burn every turn.
A nice bunch of limited cards spoiled, too. Now, five open mana doesn't only mean a big unmorph... it could be double-blockers at instant speed.
The Broods introduction is a nice surprise.
Guessing the Dragons really take over in Dragons of Tarkir then...
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Non-creatures cannot unmorph. The new portion of the rule is that non-morph creatures can unmorph.
"If you manifest a noncreature card, it can't be turned face up this way."
That appears to be correct, although I would say morph OR mana cost.
the new morph mechanic seems pretty interesting, and i will always pack enough of those new tokens to give my opponent some if he has no, so i can see which morph is which^^
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/speculation/576759-theory?comment=2
Yeah, this was a great teaser. Probably worthy of a thread in the speculation forum.
Chromanticore?? Akroma, Angel of Wrath???
In standard, due to cost and colour, it's probably going to be Gurmag Swiftwing
I'm thinking its the other way around actually. The Clans could be mono color, the enemy of the dual colored dragons, and end up add the extra colors when they start worshiping them.
[edit]: No, nevermind, my idea is stupid.
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