I don't sell cards on eBay due to fees and shipping alone. I've already sold two boxes via preorder on craigslist locally for $250 each, with $25 nonrefundable deposits. eBay is for buying, not selling. The table is heavily tilted towards buyers and it makes no sense to sell things on eBay if you have a healthy local market for said items. I can get right around eBay prices for most stuff I sell via craigslist.
I read SaffronOlive's article, and to be realistic, it means nothing unless we know how large the original print runs are. You can't throw numbers out there and say "omg market is going to crash" when you have no context. 10,000 goyfs sounds like a lot, but if there's already 150,000 goyfs out there between Future Sight and MM13, it's not really that many, is it? I mean, hell 20% might have a decent impact, but to bring prices down to "crash" levels on the best material, you'd have to dilute populations by 50% or more.
Go ahead, keep explaining how stupid I am for buying boxes at $200 and reselling them at $250. I'll keep making money. Sell four cases, one is free!
Wait, so you have already pre-sold something that you preordered, that has not even come in yet? Plus the $25 nonrefundable.
This is certainly not stupid, this feels more than a little unethical to be honest.
Wait, so you have already pre-sold something that you preordered, that has not even come in yet? Plus the $25 nonrefundable.
This is certainly not stupid, this feels more than a little unethical to be honest.
Fully refundable if I have to cancel the preorders, of course. I'm not doing anything that other retailers aren't doing right now selling preorders. They won't have the product in-hand until 5/22, and they're selling it right now. I will have 4 boxes 5/22, then probably 8 by 5/25, and the rest should be here by Wednesday, and I'm telling my buyers as much. Absolutely nothing unethical about that, it's all laid out for them before they give me anything.
I laughed because this is an excellent point. Futures contracts galore. Heck, options are basically the same thing. The right to buy/sell x at y price on z date for a certain percentage up front.
A, you are indeed the atypical mtg investor.
B, I meant like real real returns--which without getting into it means both profitable and non-negligible dollar amounts. This is vague, as my sense of wealth is FUBAR (from living in NYC, not because I'm a high schooler and don't know anything [I am not]).
I also don't think what you're doing is worth talking about in a forum, most of your compatriots here are angry at a boogieman who doesn't exist instead of one John Smith.
Thank you for acknowledging that I'm not your typical MTG Investor/speculator.
Also, I get what you mean by non-negligible dollar amounts... Honestly, I waste way more time on this than it's worth, but that's because it's fun to me. I enjoy messing around with cards and making money here and there. Stocks and related financial investments are kinda boring. Safe...ish, at least the ones I buy. I need some entertainment value in my portfolio to keep me interested, and that's what MTG does for me. 2% for entertainment value is well worth the cost of keeping me micromanaging my portfolio. Throw in the fact I can practice my value assessment skills and strategies, and tracking alternative investment values, then writing about them and discussing them at length in an adversarial situation... you have something that's fun for me regardless of if I make money or not.
Wait, so you have already pre-sold something that you preordered, that has not even come in yet? Plus the $25 nonrefundable.
This is certainly not stupid, this feels more than a little unethical to be honest.
What do you think stores are doing when they make pre-sales?
I know what they are doing and I do not support the idea of Preordering. Paying up front for something you have little information on how the product will turn out teaches companies bad habits, look what it has done to video games lately.
Wait, so you have already pre-sold something that you preordered, that has not even come in yet? Plus the $25 nonrefundable.
This is certainly not stupid, this feels more than a little unethical to be honest.
What do you think stores are doing when they make pre-sales?
I know what they are doing and I do not support the idea of Preordering. Paying up front for something you have little information on how the product will turn out teaches companies bad habits, look what it has done to video games lately.
Considering the video game industry is thriving and making lots and lots of money, like MtG is, I think it's doing fine
That really depends on who you ask, and I am not talking about monotary gain but rather respect for the consumer and the desire to make a good product.
Considering the video game industry is thriving and making lots and lots of money, like MtG is, I think it's doing fine
He's talking about how recently game devs have been half-assing products, putting them out in alpha/beta and getting people to pay for them, then never fixing the games, claiming they're "in development" infinitely.
Not really a good comparison given Wizards puts years into the development of most sets, and probably at least 6 months into the development of a full-reprint set like MM.
People who really know how to utilize their money to create solid returns are NOT doing it with magic cards. Those that do use their money to spec on magic cards, solid returns or not...are nerds.
I've gotta disagree. My stock portfolio has outperformed all my other investments since 2009, but am I supposed to keep dumping money into a stock market that is currently carrying some of the most bloated P/E ratio's we've ever seen with super-lax fiscal policies in place by the fed that have essentially exhausted their ability to influence the markets? No thanks, my money is going into cash, preferred shares paying solid dividends and alternative investments at the moment, at approximately a 2/1/1 ratio. So for every $2 I'm adding in cash, I'm adding $1 in preferred shares and another buck in alternative investments.
All in, cash accounts for about 10% of my portfolio as it sits, preferred shares are about 9%, and alternative investments about 14%. Of that 14%, the vast majority is held in numismatic items (my main hobby), and the rest is in some silver bullion and also MTG. It amounts to about 2% of my net worth in MTG. Maybe an extra half-point or so with all the MM15 stuff I've been playing with lately. I'm continuing my other contributions such as my 401k and ESPP (which is rolled into my IRA), but I haven't purchased any other stock in about 5-6 months as I'm waiting to see what happens over the next year or so. Just because I opt to speculate in MTG with what is essentially a negligible part of my portfolio doesn't mean that I don't know how to utilize my money, it means I did a risk assessment, did my research, came up with a number, and said "Screw it, let's see if this is viable or not!"
I may not be your typical, average MTG speculator, but there are those of us who know our stuff, have sufficient risk tolerance, and the money to mess around, and I don't think it's fair to lump them/us in with Joe Schmoe who buys 10 boxes of Born of the Gods and GateCrash because he got them for under the going rate.
What you're doing is bad and you should feel bad. Speculating on MTG means you have a complete disregard for other players' financial situations who aren't as privileged as you are. If there wasn't such bad income inequality in this country it would be a non-issue. Wizards meant to get this product to the players, not to people like you who are buying them up and selling for profit. People like you are part of the reason why Wizards had to raise the MSRP of products like these. If this buying and selling for profit trend continues, Wizards will have to keep raising the MSRP because they are losing so much potential profit to the secondary market.
How cute. You don't yet understand economics. Magic cards have value. Value is derived by the individual but based on A benchmark. In the secondary market, this value is worth it if the price is worth it to you. If the price is too high, you don't have to buy it. If the price is below what you would pay, you pay the asking price. If not enough buyers pay he ask price, the price will fall. If too many want the product at the ask price, it will rise. If you want something that is worth a lot of money to a lot of people, you need to pay the market ask price. That's fair. If I want to buy a box at $250, and you want to buy the same box for $200, I will get the box. If you found someone to buy a box from for $200, you could sell it to me for $250 (gasp!) And make $50 while doing it! Isn't the market great?
How cute. You don't yet understand economics. Magic cards have value. Value is derived by the individual but based on A benchmark. In the secondary market, this value is worth it if the price is worth it to you. If the price is too high, you don't have to buy it. If the price is below what you would pay, you pay the asking price. If not enough buyers pay he ask price, the price will fall. If too many want the product at the ask price, it will rise. If you want something that is worth a lot of money to a lot of people, you need to pay the market ask price. That's fair. If I want to buy a box at $250, and you want to buy the same box for $200, I will get the box. If you found someone to buy a box from for $200, you could sell it to me for $250 (gasp!) And make $50 while doing it! Isn't the market great?
I understand that Magic cards have value. I'm just saying it's pretty scummy to artificially increase the prices.
I don't sell cards on eBay due to fees and shipping alone. I've already sold two boxes via preorder on craigslist locally for $250 each, with $25 nonrefundable deposits. eBay is for buying, not selling. The table is heavily tilted towards buyers and it makes no sense to sell things on eBay if you have a healthy local market for said items. I can get right around eBay prices for most stuff I sell via craigslist.
I read SaffronOlive's article, and to be realistic, it means nothing unless we know how large the original print runs are. You can't throw numbers out there and say "omg market is going to crash" when you have no context. 10,000 goyfs sounds like a lot, but if there's already 150,000 goyfs out there between Future Sight and MM13, it's not really that many, is it? I mean, hell 20% might have a decent impact, but to bring prices down to "crash" levels on the best material, you'd have to dilute populations by 50% or more.
Go ahead, keep explaining how stupid I am for buying boxes at $200 and reselling them at $250. I'll keep making money. Sell four cases, one is free!
Wait, so you have already pre-sold something that you preordered, that has not even come in yet? Plus the $25 nonrefundable.
This is certainly not stupid, this feels more than a little unethical to be honest.
Ever heard of stock options? The right to buy or sell a set amount of shares at date in the future.
In all honesty, if someone needed a better argument for 'just buy the singles you need, not packs', Fadetoblack1004's little insights should do the trick.
Thankfully I'll be buying packs from WoTC directly in Utrecht.
Nice, I wish I could go to Vegas but my friends have told me that I shouldn't go if I'm only going for Magic. I'm not the type to gamble but I would probably go see The Blue Man Group and Cirque Du Soleil again. They have said it's better to just wait for some stores to do drafting marathons and just go to that. Thankfully my LGS is getting tons of boxes so there will be a a few drafts a week until they run out.
What you're doing is bad and you should feel bad. Speculating on MTG means you have a complete disregard for other players' financial situations who aren't as privileged as you are. If there wasn't such bad income inequality in this country it would be a non-issue. Wizards meant to get this product to the players, not to people like you who are buying them up and selling for profit. People like you are part of the reason why Wizards had to raise the MSRP of products like these. If this buying and selling for profit trend continues, Wizards will have to keep raising the MSRP because they are losing so much potential profit to the secondary market.
Privileged? I busted my ass for years to get to where I am. Privileged my ass. I worked harder than you when I was younger, and today, I still work harder than you, I put in 50-60-70 hour weeks all the time. Hell, today is a nice example. Wake up at 8am, log on remotely to work a few hours, drive into the office at 11am, grab some food on my way in, then stay at the office until 6pm. Get home, make dinner for myself and the wife, eat, and work on putting the finishing touches and practice on a presentation I'm giving to a client tomorrow in Chicago. I just finished about 30 minutes ago. Now, I'll wrap up this post, go to bed, wake up at 9am, take a shower, (that's 6 hours from now) catch my flight at 10:30, give my presentation and do some training, then fly back to Philly, go into the office, write a couple reports, file my month-end expenses, and maybe I'll be home at 9pm. Oh, but I'm off on the weekend? Nope, Saturday I am taking a 3 hour drive to look at and possibly purchase a 5 figure coin collection that somebody recently inherited. Sunday, spending the day imaging said coins and listing them on eBay for resale, as well as sorting what needs to be professionally graded from what doesn't and prepping the packages to go out for grading. Oh no, am I using my knowledge and money to make more money again? Woe is you. Monday? Back to the grind, and I don't even get a lunch because I have to go mail packages out.
How often do you put in 60 hour weeks? 70 hour weeks? 80 hour weeks? Did you go to school? Did you spend $60k on a couple degrees? Did you work full-time while doing it because you couldn't afford it otherwise? No? Don't tell me I am privileged. I earned what I am today, and I earned the right to blow my money on what I want, or take advantage of people who are too lazy to figure things out for themselves.
Also, I had a totally average upbringing. I grew up as middle-class as you can get. Blue collar neighborhood, public school education, ran the streets as a kid, got into trouble smoking/dealing weed as a teen, cleaned myself up, went to frickin' community college, worked full time and went to school full time, transferred, got a Bachelors, got a Masters... and I'm privileged? No, you're just lazy.
I live in America. America is a capitalistic society. I enjoy the benefits of such society and make money when I see easy opportunities to do so. I have the money to take these chances because I busted my ass for it, then I educated myself, invested it, and made a lot of money. It takes money to make money, and the only reason you don't have any money to make more money with is because you haven't earned it. Go earn it! Work hard, go back to school. You can do anything you want, if you want it. If you start today, you can be back in school by this Fall. You can put a few years in now, and make the next 20-30-40 years of your life that much better. Do it. Don't make excuses, don't be lazy. Just do it, there's nothing stopping you but you. Instead of complaining about me and my money, go get your own. Nobody in this world outside of your family and loved ones gives two craps about you, and they certainly aren't going to help you raise above your current station. That's up to you.
What you're doing is bad and you should feel bad. Speculating on MTG means you have a complete disregard for other players' financial situations who aren't as privileged as you are. If there wasn't such bad income inequality in this country it would be a non-issue. Wizards meant to get this product to the players, not to people like you who are buying them up and selling for profit. People like you are part of the reason why Wizards had to raise the MSRP of products like these. If this buying and selling for profit trend continues, Wizards will have to keep raising the MSRP because they are losing so much potential profit to the secondary market.
Privileged? I busted my ass for years to get to where I am. Privileged my ass. I worked harder than you when I was younger, and today, I still work harder than you, I put in 50-60-70 hour weeks all the time. Hell, today is a nice example. Wake up at 8am, log on remotely to work a few hours, drive into the office at 11am, grab some food on my way in, then stay at the office until 6pm. Get home, make dinner for myself and the wife, eat, and work on putting the finishing touches and practice on a presentation I'm giving to a client tomorrow in Chicago. I just finished about 30 minutes ago. Now, I'll wrap up this post, go to bed, wake up at 9am, take a shower, (that's 6 hours from now) catch my flight at 10:30, give my presentation and do some training, then fly back to Philly, go into the office, write a couple reports, file my month-end expenses, and maybe I'll be home at 9pm. Oh, but I'm off on the weekend? Nope, Saturday I am taking a 3 hour drive to look at and possibly purchase a 5 figure coin collection that somebody recently inherited. Sunday, spending the day imaging said coins and listing them on eBay for resale, as well as sorting what needs to be professionally graded from what doesn't and prepping the packages to go out for grading. Oh no, am I using my knowledge and money to make more money again? Woe is you. Monday? Back to the grind, and I don't even get a lunch because I have to go mail packages out.
How often do you put in 60 hour weeks? 70 hour weeks? 80 hour weeks? Did you go to school? Did you spend $60k on a couple degrees? Did you work full-time while doing it because you couldn't afford it otherwise? No? Don't tell me I am privileged. I earned what I am today, and I earned the right to blow my money on what I want, or take advantage of people who are too lazy to figure things out for themselves.
Also, I had a totally average upbringing. I grew up as middle-class as you can get. Blue collar neighborhood, public school education, ran the streets as a kid, got into trouble smoking/dealing weed as a teen, cleaned myself up, went to frickin' community college, worked full time and went to school full time, transferred, got a Bachelors, got a Masters... and I'm privileged? No, you're just lazy.
I live in America. America is a capitalistic society. I enjoy the benefits of such society and make money when I see easy opportunities to do so. I have the money to take these chances because I busted my ass for it, then I educated myself, invested it, and made a lot of money. It takes money to make money, and the only reason you don't have any money to make more money with is because you haven't earned it. Go earn it! Work hard, go back to school. You can do anything you want, if you want it. If you start today, you can be back in school by this Fall. You can put a few years in now, and make the next 20-30-40 years of your life that much better. Do it. Don't make excuses, don't be lazy. Just do it, there's nothing stopping you but you. Instead of complaining about me and my money, go get your own. Nobody in this world outside of your family and loved ones gives two craps about you, and they certainly aren't going to help you raise above your current station. That's up to you.
Check your ******* privilege dude. Just because I make less money than you doesn't mean I'm lazy. You must think a lot of people are poor "because they're lazy". I've had a stressful life due to bullying in high school and I've had to withdraw several times from community college because I was kicked out of the house for sleeping in until 10am or my mom was just being a straight up *****. My mom has yelled at me several times while she was driving me to college for stupid **** like using a toilet plunger, stressing me out to the point that I couldn't focus for an important test. Sometimes I wasn't able to do homework because my mom wouldn't give me the power cord to the laptop. And when I was living in a house with a bunch of strangers there was a guy in the next door being drunk and constantly *****ing about his ex-girlfriend that it ruined my sleep schedule. My therapist at the time wouldn't even write me a letter to get a medical withdrawal at school.
Right now I'm working a retail job running around for several hours while doing heavy lifting and pushing tons of shopping carts at night. But I'm only getting paid minimum wage and with so many bills it's hard to save up to go back to school. I can't even get a loan right now. I wish I could work more but I'm disabled. I've also had several suicide attempts in the past but life is finally getting better. It's debilitating having to work with a bad back and depression.
You are SO lucky having a middle class family growing up. I grew up with a family living below the poverty line. And you know what my dad told me after I moved in with my mom? That she said she wished I was dead when I was making a mess when I was a baby.
I wonder how low spellskite will dip once this set is released, because I need to pick one up but I'm sure not spending $25 for one.
Maybe $10-12 would be reasonable if we follow the MM1 trend where most of the non-crazy rares dipped in price. Although be mindful that this one is heavily played, so it's probably not gonna crash. Nonetheless, I should probably grab it somewhat soon after the set's release.
I also can't see packs going too far above MSRP. I recall seeing markups on MM1 go to $12ish, and that's with a supposedly smaller supply than what we have this time ariound.
Also, I've learned how important it is to tie peoples' circumstances to what they are and how they grow up. I grew up in decent circumstances, but tried to understand people from all different forms of status, as my social skills otherwise are not created from natural human intuition, so to speak. It is a useful skill for adapting to individuals and friends wherever you go.
EDIT: Also I find mass speculation to be extremely distasteful, even if not actually ethical. But that's just me.
So to paraphrase, cutting out your life story about how totally awesome you are
"If you're not rich, the only logical conclusion is because of laziness. Capitalism is perfect system with no flaws, the USA has excellent equality of opportunity."
Found the republican voter
Ah, assumptions! I'm independent, lean Democrat. I've had my fair share of stumbles in my life, my fair share of challenges. I've managed to overcome them, and he can too. Anybody can. It requires more work in some cases, but hey, that's life. It's not fair, and it shouldn't be.
I apologize for the outburst, I simply hate being called privileged, since I've given up a lot to be where I am.
RE MM15 on eBay, prices are trending upwards still. Over $250/avg per box.
The graph is neat. I don't know if it'll drop back below MSRP again or not. Although I'm not entirely sure if the recent large "quantity sold" jump was due to either the unconfirmed list or the two confirmed cards that were spoiled on the 29th.
MaRo said on social media that development thinks manlands were too good for standard. Though I'm all for a high-powered environment. We'll see how it goes come Battle for Zendikar.
But that's no news, MaRo says X is "too good for Standard" all the time and things still get reprinted (Thoughtseize and fetchlands recently)
MaRo said on social media that development thinks manlands were too good for standard. Though I'm all for a high-powered environment. We'll see how it goes come Battle for Zendikar.
But that's no news, MaRo says X is "too good for Standard" all the time and things still get reprinted (Thoughtseize and fetchlands recently)
I think maro said that thoughtseize could come back to standard (, and at least I haven't seen any of his post saying it otherwise either, but I might have missed it). The fetchlands aren't to strong for standard (as soon as you take away shocks or ABUR duals they are OK fixing, but far from their strenght in older formats) - the problem with the fetches was mostly that Wizadrs don't like to much shuffling in standard (I would guess that bringing down the price of fetches was more important for wizards in the end).
Has anyone even bothered to notice that the first MM release was generally based off from the previous modern top tier decks(e.g. Merfolk, Affinity) and now it's still based off on the current top tier decks? What's the purpose of reprinting cards that everybody is already playing with? I mean, modern should always evolve or even try to create diversity, instead they get on the banhammer and then reprint already established deck's cards.
And no, I'm not concerned whether Karn's price will lower down due to a reprint, or Cryptic Command can now be more available than usual due to a reprint. I think they need to reprint a card from the Legacy card pool and make it Modern legal.
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Not sure if this card is gonna get banned sooner or maybe later...
Please don't make crap up. This is such an obvious word vomit it's ridiculous. Something about the internet and people thinking they need to say something to fit in..
Has anyone even bothered to notice that the first MM release was generally based off from the previous modern top tier decks(e.g. Merfolk, Affinity) and now it's still based off on the current top tier decks? What's the purpose of reprinting cards that everybody is already playing with? I mean, modern should always evolve or even try to create diversity, instead they get on the banhammer and then reprint already established deck's cards.
And no, I'm not concerned whether Karn's price will lower down due to a reprint, or Cryptic Command can now be more available than usual due to a reprint. I think they need to reprint a card from the Legacy card pool and make it Modern legal.
Ironically, as it is a supplementary set, printing a Legacy card in MM2015 would not cause it to become modern legal.
Also the whole premise of the set is to make the popular cards more accessible to people who are not already playing them.
People who really know how to utilize their money to create solid returns are NOT doing it with magic cards. Those that do use their money to spec on magic cards, solid returns or not...are nerds (or now just having fun).
There will be a window to buy cards on the cheap. Look at MM1. The same thing will happen again. Magic players do not think ahead. They will draft/buy/open and then sell, either to stores or each other. And Magic can't fight supply and demand.
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Never invest in the commodities market.
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I won't spread your secret.
Oh well, I wonder what the spoiler will be tomorrow.
We've seen a number differing cards (either reprints or archetypes)
Vendilion Clique
Karn
Emrakul
Etched Champion
Splinter Twin
Spellskite
I kind of think we'll see Daybreak Coronet tomorrow...
Fully refundable if I have to cancel the preorders, of course. I'm not doing anything that other retailers aren't doing right now selling preorders. They won't have the product in-hand until 5/22, and they're selling it right now. I will have 4 boxes 5/22, then probably 8 by 5/25, and the rest should be here by Wednesday, and I'm telling my buyers as much. Absolutely nothing unethical about that, it's all laid out for them before they give me anything.
I laughed because this is an excellent point. Futures contracts galore. Heck, options are basically the same thing. The right to buy/sell x at y price on z date for a certain percentage up front.
What do you think stores are doing when they make pre-sales?
Thank you for acknowledging that I'm not your typical MTG Investor/speculator.
Also, I get what you mean by non-negligible dollar amounts... Honestly, I waste way more time on this than it's worth, but that's because it's fun to me. I enjoy messing around with cards and making money here and there. Stocks and related financial investments are kinda boring. Safe...ish, at least the ones I buy. I need some entertainment value in my portfolio to keep me interested, and that's what MTG does for me. 2% for entertainment value is well worth the cost of keeping me micromanaging my portfolio. Throw in the fact I can practice my value assessment skills and strategies, and tracking alternative investment values, then writing about them and discussing them at length in an adversarial situation... you have something that's fun for me regardless of if I make money or not.
Considering the video game industry is thriving and making lots and lots of money, like MtG is, I think it's doing fine
He's talking about how recently game devs have been half-assing products, putting them out in alpha/beta and getting people to pay for them, then never fixing the games, claiming they're "in development" infinitely.
Not really a good comparison given Wizards puts years into the development of most sets, and probably at least 6 months into the development of a full-reprint set like MM.
What you're doing is bad and you should feel bad. Speculating on MTG means you have a complete disregard for other players' financial situations who aren't as privileged as you are. If there wasn't such bad income inequality in this country it would be a non-issue. Wizards meant to get this product to the players, not to people like you who are buying them up and selling for profit. People like you are part of the reason why Wizards had to raise the MSRP of products like these. If this buying and selling for profit trend continues, Wizards will have to keep raising the MSRP because they are losing so much potential profit to the secondary market.
I understand that Magic cards have value. I'm just saying it's pretty scummy to artificially increase the prices.
Ever heard of stock options? The right to buy or sell a set amount of shares at date in the future.
Nice, I wish I could go to Vegas but my friends have told me that I shouldn't go if I'm only going for Magic. I'm not the type to gamble but I would probably go see The Blue Man Group and Cirque Du Soleil again. They have said it's better to just wait for some stores to do drafting marathons and just go to that. Thankfully my LGS is getting tons of boxes so there will be a a few drafts a week until they run out.
Privileged? I busted my ass for years to get to where I am. Privileged my ass. I worked harder than you when I was younger, and today, I still work harder than you, I put in 50-60-70 hour weeks all the time. Hell, today is a nice example. Wake up at 8am, log on remotely to work a few hours, drive into the office at 11am, grab some food on my way in, then stay at the office until 6pm. Get home, make dinner for myself and the wife, eat, and work on putting the finishing touches and practice on a presentation I'm giving to a client tomorrow in Chicago. I just finished about 30 minutes ago. Now, I'll wrap up this post, go to bed, wake up at 9am, take a shower, (that's 6 hours from now) catch my flight at 10:30, give my presentation and do some training, then fly back to Philly, go into the office, write a couple reports, file my month-end expenses, and maybe I'll be home at 9pm. Oh, but I'm off on the weekend? Nope, Saturday I am taking a 3 hour drive to look at and possibly purchase a 5 figure coin collection that somebody recently inherited. Sunday, spending the day imaging said coins and listing them on eBay for resale, as well as sorting what needs to be professionally graded from what doesn't and prepping the packages to go out for grading. Oh no, am I using my knowledge and money to make more money again? Woe is you. Monday? Back to the grind, and I don't even get a lunch because I have to go mail packages out.
How often do you put in 60 hour weeks? 70 hour weeks? 80 hour weeks? Did you go to school? Did you spend $60k on a couple degrees? Did you work full-time while doing it because you couldn't afford it otherwise? No? Don't tell me I am privileged. I earned what I am today, and I earned the right to blow my money on what I want, or take advantage of people who are too lazy to figure things out for themselves.
Also, I had a totally average upbringing. I grew up as middle-class as you can get. Blue collar neighborhood, public school education, ran the streets as a kid, got into trouble smoking/dealing weed as a teen, cleaned myself up, went to frickin' community college, worked full time and went to school full time, transferred, got a Bachelors, got a Masters... and I'm privileged? No, you're just lazy.
I live in America. America is a capitalistic society. I enjoy the benefits of such society and make money when I see easy opportunities to do so. I have the money to take these chances because I busted my ass for it, then I educated myself, invested it, and made a lot of money. It takes money to make money, and the only reason you don't have any money to make more money with is because you haven't earned it. Go earn it! Work hard, go back to school. You can do anything you want, if you want it. If you start today, you can be back in school by this Fall. You can put a few years in now, and make the next 20-30-40 years of your life that much better. Do it. Don't make excuses, don't be lazy. Just do it, there's nothing stopping you but you. Instead of complaining about me and my money, go get your own. Nobody in this world outside of your family and loved ones gives two craps about you, and they certainly aren't going to help you raise above your current station. That's up to you.
Check your ******* privilege dude. Just because I make less money than you doesn't mean I'm lazy. You must think a lot of people are poor "because they're lazy". I've had a stressful life due to bullying in high school and I've had to withdraw several times from community college because I was kicked out of the house for sleeping in until 10am or my mom was just being a straight up *****. My mom has yelled at me several times while she was driving me to college for stupid **** like using a toilet plunger, stressing me out to the point that I couldn't focus for an important test. Sometimes I wasn't able to do homework because my mom wouldn't give me the power cord to the laptop. And when I was living in a house with a bunch of strangers there was a guy in the next door being drunk and constantly *****ing about his ex-girlfriend that it ruined my sleep schedule. My therapist at the time wouldn't even write me a letter to get a medical withdrawal at school.
Right now I'm working a retail job running around for several hours while doing heavy lifting and pushing tons of shopping carts at night. But I'm only getting paid minimum wage and with so many bills it's hard to save up to go back to school. I can't even get a loan right now. I wish I could work more but I'm disabled. I've also had several suicide attempts in the past but life is finally getting better. It's debilitating having to work with a bad back and depression.
You are SO lucky having a middle class family growing up. I grew up with a family living below the poverty line. And you know what my dad told me after I moved in with my mom? That she said she wished I was dead when I was making a mess when I was a baby.
Maybe $10-12 would be reasonable if we follow the MM1 trend where most of the non-crazy rares dipped in price. Although be mindful that this one is heavily played, so it's probably not gonna crash. Nonetheless, I should probably grab it somewhat soon after the set's release.
I also can't see packs going too far above MSRP. I recall seeing markups on MM1 go to $12ish, and that's with a supposedly smaller supply than what we have this time ariound.
Also, I've learned how important it is to tie peoples' circumstances to what they are and how they grow up. I grew up in decent circumstances, but tried to understand people from all different forms of status, as my social skills otherwise are not created from natural human intuition, so to speak. It is a useful skill for adapting to individuals and friends wherever you go.
EDIT: Also I find mass speculation to be extremely distasteful, even if not actually ethical. But that's just me.
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
EDH
Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
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Ah, assumptions! I'm independent, lean Democrat. I've had my fair share of stumbles in my life, my fair share of challenges. I've managed to overcome them, and he can too. Anybody can. It requires more work in some cases, but hey, that's life. It's not fair, and it shouldn't be.
I apologize for the outburst, I simply hate being called privileged, since I've given up a lot to be where I am.
RE MM15 on eBay, prices are trending upwards still. Over $250/avg per box.
And I am going to sleep.
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
EDH
Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
I make dolls as a hobby.
But that's no news, MaRo says X is "too good for Standard" all the time and things still get reprinted (Thoughtseize and fetchlands recently)
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I think maro said that thoughtseize could come back to standard (, and at least I haven't seen any of his post saying it otherwise either, but I might have missed it). The fetchlands aren't to strong for standard (as soon as you take away shocks or ABUR duals they are OK fixing, but far from their strenght in older formats) - the problem with the fetches was mostly that Wizadrs don't like to much shuffling in standard (I would guess that bringing down the price of fetches was more important for wizards in the end).
Has anyone even bothered to notice that the first MM release was generally based off from the previous modern top tier decks(e.g. Merfolk, Affinity) and now it's still based off on the current top tier decks? What's the purpose of reprinting cards that everybody is already playing with? I mean, modern should always evolve or even try to create diversity, instead they get on the banhammer and then reprint already established deck's cards.
And no, I'm not concerned whether Karn's price will lower down due to a reprint, or Cryptic Command can now be more available than usual due to a reprint. I think they need to reprint a card from the Legacy card pool and make it Modern legal.
Ironically, as it is a supplementary set, printing a Legacy card in MM2015 would not cause it to become modern legal.
Also the whole premise of the set is to make the popular cards more accessible to people who are not already playing them.
People who really know how to utilize their money to create solid returns are NOT doing it with magic cards. Those that do use their money to spec on magic cards, solid returns or not...are nerds (or now just having fun).