Xenagos is certainly R/G. We have a Green Satyr that sacrifices for Red Mana, he's got red/green coloring, and he's referenced on a Red/Green gold card feature dancing Satyrs.
The "party till you die" thing is most definitely a red, not black thing in the current color pie. (Rakdos is a similar take, where the difference is in the emphasis on pain/suffering due to the black part.)
Dionysus was also the god of madness, driving his enemies insane, more than once causing people to murder their loved ones out of spite.
Did I mention the bringing dead people back to life thing?
Also, it wasn't 'party til you die' it was 'orgy', as in, roman orgy, as in, depravity and excess at it's highest.
Dionysus would definitely be black, probably be black/white, maybe black/red, maybe black/white/red.
Dionysus was the guy who gave Midas his touch.
I mean, sure, satyrs are associated with Dionysus, because satyrs are little drunken sex freaks. Why do you think that the Christian depiction of the devil is a satyr? Horns, goat legs...
So, what I'm really saying is, while there may be a god of satyrs, it really probably isn't Dionysus, or even really based on Dionysus. Not unless he's driving people mad so that they murder their family, and then throwing an orgy afterward.
(b) How the heck Ajani factors into this whole block leaving his oath (?) to his pride.
Uh... what oath would that be? Ajani left the Qasal valley in its entirety. They offered him a position as Kha, but he turned it down, saying he needed to go help others instead of lead.
That's why the Sunstrikers formed.
So, what I'm really saying is, while there may be a god of satyrs, it really probably isn't Dionysus, or even really based on Dionysus. Not unless he's driving people mad so that they murder their family, and then throwing an orgy afterward.
Mostly it's Pan. But that being said, Dionysus was a close ally.
And where the heck are you getting WHITE for Dionysus? If anything he'd be Jund aligned. You know, what with the God of the VINES thing going on too.
Dionysus was also the god of madness, driving his enemies insane, more than once causing people to murder their loved ones out of spite.
Did I mention the bringing dead people back to life thing?
Also, it wasn't 'party til you die' it was 'orgy', as in, roman orgy, as in, depravity and excess at it's highest.
Dionysus would definitely be black, probably be black/white, maybe black/red, maybe black/white/red.
Dionysus was the guy who gave Midas his touch.
I mean, sure, satyrs are associated with Dionysus, because satyrs are little drunken sex freaks. Why do you think that the Christian depiction of the devil is a satyr? Horns, goat legs...
So, what I'm really saying is, while there may be a god of satyrs, it really probably isn't Dionysus, or even really based on Dionysus. Not unless he's driving people mad so that they murder their family, and then throwing an orgy afterward.
What does Dionysus have to do with anything? Theros has it's own gods that are loosely based on the gods of Greek mythology.
And here I was whining that Elspeth is in expert set again while kitty wasn't used for long time. Would love to see him GW or Naya for being closer to finish two color combos or getting the second three color walker.
What If the God images are based on the constellations in outer space? I wouldn't be surprised If we get Orion in Theros, Hercules is another good one as well as Andromeda based on the Andromeda and Pegasus constellations.
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That is EXTREMELY out of character for her, and it doesn't even match up with what we know of her on Theros.
You're also confusing the principles of freedom that she was seeking. Red doesn't value rules, that's the freedom they seek, Elspeth's desire for freedom was born of ENSLAVEMENT AND TORTURE, not laws.
We still don't know how the story will develop, and while the cold conceptual reason why she ascended may not be the same as why she may feel threatened anew, the feelings that have kept her running away time and time again may disagree. And she's not too high and civilized for recklessness and senseless violence, no one who fights in Urborg is.
If there's a white walker other than Ajani who may embrace red, I really believe it'd be Elspeth.
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Uh... what oath would that be? Ajani left the Qasal valley in its entirety. They offered him a position as Kha, but he turned it down, saying he needed to go help others instead of lead.
That's why the Sunstrikers formed.
I guess I've read the flavor texts wrong (always good that you don't have access to novels ).
I've always thought that he went Lord Windgrace on his pride wanting to protect them and shizz.
But my issue still stands: they'd better have something to cover (maybe in an Unchanted Realms installment) on how the heck he got there other than "Oh hey, I chanced upon this plane randomly!".
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What If the God images are based on the constellations in outer space? I wouldn't be surprised If we get Orion in Theros, Hercules is another good one as well as Andromeda based on the Andromeda and Pegasus constellations.
I'm sorry, what are you talking about, exactly? A Pegasus god?
And she's not too high and civilized for recklessness and senseless violence, no one who fights in Urborg is.
She fought out of a sense of hopelessness and despair, not out of passion or violence.
She'd effectively started lashing out at the world, but it wasn't out of anger, which is the color associated with red. She's a very melancholy character, not bellicose.
But my issue still stands: they'd better have something to cover (maybe in an Unchanted Realms installment) on how the heck he got there other than "Oh hey, I chanced upon this plane randomly!".
Honestly, with Elspeth there, and in the state of mind he left her in last time, I don't think we have to worry about him needing a reason to show up.
He'd already tracked her to one plane, not that unbelievable to track her to another.
Uh... what oath would that be? Ajani left the Qasal valley in its entirety. They offered him a position as Kha, but he turned it down, saying he needed to go help others instead of lead.
That's why the Sunstrikers formed.
Mostly it's Pan. But that being said, Dionysus was a close ally.
And where the heck are you getting WHITE for Dionysus? If anything he'd be Jund aligned. You know, what with the God of the VINES thing going on too.
The auramancer of the bunch is Ajani if I recall correctly. Wotc could bring him along in the next or last set.
It would'nt be much of a stretch. He would come to ask Elspeth for some help again, because the situation on Alara has worsen, introducing the pitch of the future "return to Alara block".
Honestly, when it comes right down to it, I hope it's more personal than that. I'd like him to just be worried about her considering how fatalistic she was when they last spoke and just ignore Alara all together.
So Ajani is in this block with Elspeth... No words.
Here's HOPING that there would be something that explains or shows:
(a) How Elspeth parted with Karn
(b) How the heck Ajani factors into this whole block leaving his oath (?) to his pride.
Because that MESS with Gideon, Feather and other loose ends that happened in the Return to Ravnica block is too strong a bitter taste to remove.
p.s. I guess they can pretty much go "LOL WUT SECRETIST YOU BE SAYIN'?" with Jace and have him appear sooner than one thinks.
Oh, come on now. If they give you a great story reason why they are together and in Theros then Vorthos is happy, if not then you have more fodder for your wonderful comic strip. Sounds like a win/win for you.
Ajani is definitely a surprise, and the (G/W) theory is what sprang to my mind, as well.
Seems very, *very* likely.
Any chance they could surprise us and make Ajani mono-W and Elspeth (G/W)?
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Does the lion head on her armor represent Ajani? They used to be friends (and still are I presume). I remember that he planeswalked to Mirrodin to find her and he brought her armor with him which she left on Bant. Maybe she had her armor altered as a sign of respect or gratitude.
Not Mirrodin. He tracked her down in Urborg where they ran across Koth.
And no, probably not. Lions are just kind of a motif in a lot of grecian art.
Ajani is definitely a surprise, and the (G/W) theory is what sprang to my mind, as well.
Seems very, *very* likely.
Any chance they could surprise us and make Ajani mono-W and Elspeth (G/W)?
Extremely unlikely.
Elspeth doesn't display any green values, nor does her magic really seem to embrace it aside from the 2 mana invested in Clarion Ultimatum.
Whatever magic she has seems to favor a secondary of blue before green besides.
Lastly, Elspeth appears to be staying in Meletis, which is the WU city, not the GW city.
Could she, in theory be UW?... Also unlikely, but a circumstantially higher probability than GW. Probably remain W.
Note that the centaur might not be a god---Nymphs, Celestial Archon, etc. are all made of starstuff as well.
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Here's HOPING that there would be something that explains or shows:
(a) How Elspeth parted with Karn
(b) How the heck Ajani factors into this whole block leaving his oath (?) to his pride.
Because that MESS with Gideon, Feather and other loose ends that happened in the Return to Ravnica block is too strong a bitter taste to remove.
p.s. I guess they can pretty much go "LOL WUT SECRETIST YOU BE SAYIN'?" with Jace and have him appear sooner than one thinks.
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Dionysus was also the god of madness, driving his enemies insane, more than once causing people to murder their loved ones out of spite.
Did I mention the bringing dead people back to life thing?
Also, it wasn't 'party til you die' it was 'orgy', as in, roman orgy, as in, depravity and excess at it's highest.
Dionysus would definitely be black, probably be black/white, maybe black/red, maybe black/white/red.
Dionysus was the guy who gave Midas his touch.
I mean, sure, satyrs are associated with Dionysus, because satyrs are little drunken sex freaks. Why do you think that the Christian depiction of the devil is a satyr? Horns, goat legs...
So, what I'm really saying is, while there may be a god of satyrs, it really probably isn't Dionysus, or even really based on Dionysus. Not unless he's driving people mad so that they murder their family, and then throwing an orgy afterward.
Uh... what oath would that be? Ajani left the Qasal valley in its entirety. They offered him a position as Kha, but he turned it down, saying he needed to go help others instead of lead.
That's why the Sunstrikers formed.
Mostly it's Pan. But that being said, Dionysus was a close ally.
And where the heck are you getting WHITE for Dionysus? If anything he'd be Jund aligned. You know, what with the God of the VINES thing going on too.
What does Dionysus have to do with anything? Theros has it's own gods that are loosely based on the gods of Greek mythology.
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We still don't know how the story will develop, and while the cold conceptual reason why she ascended may not be the same as why she may feel threatened anew, the feelings that have kept her running away time and time again may disagree. And she's not too high and civilized for recklessness and senseless violence, no one who fights in Urborg is.
If there's a white walker other than Ajani who may embrace red, I really believe it'd be Elspeth.
I guess I've read the flavor texts wrong (always good that you don't have access to novels ).
I've always thought that he went Lord Windgrace on his pride wanting to protect them and shizz.
But my issue still stands: they'd better have something to cover (maybe in an Unchanted Realms installment) on how the heck he got there other than "Oh hey, I chanced upon this plane randomly!".
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I'm sorry, what are you talking about, exactly? A Pegasus god?
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She fought out of a sense of hopelessness and despair, not out of passion or violence.
She'd effectively started lashing out at the world, but it wasn't out of anger, which is the color associated with red. She's a very melancholy character, not bellicose.
Honestly, with Elspeth there, and in the state of mind he left her in last time, I don't think we have to worry about him needing a reason to show up.
He'd already tracked her to one plane, not that unbelievable to track her to another.
There are similarities between him and Jesus.
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Not strong enough to make THAT connection. White is a color of law, and Dionysus is one of the primary gods of chaos.
I did, but it didn't seem like he was saying that said god was exactly Dionysus, but more having a similar role with regards to satyrs.
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Honestly, when it comes right down to it, I hope it's more personal than that. I'd like him to just be worried about her considering how fatalistic she was when they last spoke and just ignore Alara all together.
Oh, come on now. If they give you a great story reason why they are together and in Theros then Vorthos is happy, if not then you have more fodder for your wonderful comic strip. Sounds like a win/win for you.
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Seems very, *very* likely.
Any chance they could surprise us and make Ajani mono-W and Elspeth (G/W)?
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Not Mirrodin. He tracked her down in Urborg where they ran across Koth.
And no, probably not. Lions are just kind of a motif in a lot of grecian art.
She didn't change her sword. Heliod changed it.
Extremely unlikely.
Elspeth doesn't display any green values, nor does her magic really seem to embrace it aside from the 2 mana invested in Clarion Ultimatum.
Whatever magic she has seems to favor a secondary of blue before green besides.
Lastly, Elspeth appears to be staying in Meletis, which is the WU city, not the GW city.
Could she, in theory be UW?... Also unlikely, but a circumstantially higher probability than GW. Probably remain W.
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