This guy will actually mill at least ten cards on average because of land to nonland ratios and has evasion, so he's not really bad compared to Nemesis of Reason.
The problem is that Nemesis of Reason isn't good in the first place.
Well the knowledge that nemesis wasn't good, and that it didn't need to connect to do its milling, and that a 3/7 ground body trumps a 2/4 flying
And as much as I hate to say it- fatty power creep even since alara.
I was all excited by the first few champions that subtly played with their mechanics. Ruric said "Don't play pump spells, instead, just use Bloodrush!", Melek said "Overload all the spells from your library for double the everything chaos!" and Vorel said "BTW, I place nice with Evolve!" Then they started calling out the mechanics by name. Exava, Lavinia, Varolz all had their mechanics. Then things went downhill as they had nothing to do with their mechanics, *cough*Teysa and Mirko!*cough*. I want more like Ruric, Melek and Vorel that are open-ended, but on theme.
I think Varolz was a good call on using the guild Mechanic. He is the type of card that could make Scavenge work in constructed formats. The other two were ok, but I don't think as strong. Exava gives them haste, but a lot of the cards that will get the buff are not great on t5+. Lavinia durdles and that fits Azirous perfectly.
So Dimir gets the worst guild leader AND the worst champion AND is horrible in limited. I'm pretty upset with Wizards, Dimir deserves better than this. There had better be an insane Dimir spell in DGM.
I still see people whining about Dimir being terrible in Limited. I won 90% of games I played with (good) Dimir decks sinc GTC came out. People who are scorning Dimir obviously do not know how to draft/play it properly.
That said...Mirko Vosk is not on par with Exava or Lavinia, but it is still a rather solid card, and I will play it when I have a Dimir deck.
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I still see people whining about Dimir being terrible in Limited. I won 90% of games I played with (good) Dimir decks sinc GTC came out. People who are scorning Dimir obviously do not know how to draft/play it properly.
That said...Mirko Vosk is not on par with Exava or Lavinia, but it is still a rather solid card, and I will play it when I have a Dimir deck.
Sometimes when an entire table has dismissed a guild as unplayable, you can build some awesome decks out of it. It doesn't mean it's not the worst guild. Just like Boros being overdrafted now and this weakened doesn't mean it's not still the best guild.
Obviously going into my Lazav voltron / mill deck. I like the card and the flavor, your getting a body on a card that already costed 3, he just isn't all star level, which is good, didn't want to replace Lazav anyway.
Sometimes when an entire table has dismissed a guild as unplayable, you can build some awesome decks out of it. It doesn't mean it's not the worst guild. Just like Boros being overdrafted now and this weakened doesn't mean it's not still the best guild.
Sounds reasonable. But it would mean that several different groups/people I played with always left the Dimir for me.
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Grats on the wins though?
Heh, thanks.
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Line spacing between flying and the mill ability far too high.
All of these suggest that he was a very, very rushed design. My theory is that he originally had something like "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, if it doesn't have Cipher, it gains Cipher." and R&D chickened out at the last minute.
Ah, well that's fair. Honestly though, I've only seen a handful of situations in limited in both RTR and GTC where going strictly two color was the right call, and I think they'll happen with even less frequency in DGM/GTC/RTR where everything will be all thrown together. I suspect that forcing two-color instead of running with a fairly even shard or wedge may be a mistake.
Going two colors is almost always correct in GTC draft, actually. The format is very aggressive and most of the good decks are 2 color and very fast. Orzhov is the only deck that wants to be 3 colors sometimes imho.
I still see people whining about Dimir being terrible in Limited. I won 90% of games I played with (good) Dimir decks sinc GTC came out. People who are scorning Dimir obviously do not know how to draft/play it properly.
That said...Mirko Vosk is not on par with Exava or Lavinia, but it is still a rather solid card, and I will play it when I have a Dimir deck.
My limited rating on MTGO is close to 1900, so I am confident in saying that I know how to draft GTC given that it and ISD are the only formats I have drafted since GTC was released.
My theory is that he originally had something like "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, if it doesn't have Cipher, it gains Cipher." and R&D chickened out at the last minute.
They would have had to price him a lot higher for an effect like that, although it's undeniably an awesome, game-winning effect.
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Design has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with powerlevel, so your reasoning makes no sense. I agree that most of the Champions feel bland, but they're still much better designed than 90% of SOM block.
C'mon guys, cut him some slack. It's hard to be really powerful when you're wearing such tight leather pants. They're probably cutting off some mana flow.
Impressive. I didn't start worrying about pushed Cipher cards until they revealed the mechanic in Gatecrash.
Well the knowledge that nemesis wasn't good, and that it didn't need to connect to do its milling, and that a 3/7 ground body trumps a 2/4 flying
And as much as I hate to say it- fatty power creep even since alara.
I think Varolz was a good call on using the guild Mechanic. He is the type of card that could make Scavenge work in constructed formats. The other two were ok, but I don't think as strong. Exava gives them haste, but a lot of the cards that will get the buff are not great on t5+. Lavinia durdles and that fits Azirous perfectly.
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I still see people whining about Dimir being terrible in Limited. I won 90% of games I played with (good) Dimir decks sinc GTC came out. People who are scorning Dimir obviously do not know how to draft/play it properly.
That said...Mirko Vosk is not on par with Exava or Lavinia, but it is still a rather solid card, and I will play it when I have a Dimir deck.
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I think its just that people don't realize yet that what teysa's "cane" really is.
Sometimes when an entire table has dismissed a guild as unplayable, you can build some awesome decks out of it. It doesn't mean it's not the worst guild. Just like Boros being overdrafted now and this weakened doesn't mean it's not still the best guild.
Grats on the wins though?
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More precisely, Mind Funeral.
Sounds reasonable. But it would mean that several different groups/people I played with always left the Dimir for me.
Heh, thanks.
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All of these suggest that he was a very, very rushed design. My theory is that he originally had something like "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, if it doesn't have Cipher, it gains Cipher." and R&D chickened out at the last minute.
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Going two colors is almost always correct in GTC draft, actually. The format is very aggressive and most of the good decks are 2 color and very fast. Orzhov is the only deck that wants to be 3 colors sometimes imho.
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My limited rating on MTGO is close to 1900, so I am confident in saying that I know how to draft GTC given that it and ISD are the only formats I have drafted since GTC was released.
Nah, Urza is a 3/3.
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UBG B/U/G control
BBB MBC
WUR Control
WWW Prison
RRR Goblins
Legacy
BBB Pox
UBG B/U/G Control
UWU StoneBlade
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In limited, this guy is insane, killing someone in 3 turns if unblocked, which even a 4/4 wouldn't do all the time.
They've fed us Thragtusk steak so now everything else tastes like Vizzerdrix-on-a-stick.
I'll be the first to admit it.
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Future Sight for instants and sorceries that copies them is totally boring.
Magic players are so spoiled these days.:-/
SIX DOLLARS?:confused2: Well, Mirko is definitely appealing to some audience.
They would have had to price him a lot higher for an effect like that, although it's undeniably an awesome, game-winning effect.
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The wording does not match up to the other 'grind' cards from GTC.
Design has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with powerlevel, so your reasoning makes no sense. I agree that most of the Champions feel bland, but they're still much better designed than 90% of SOM block.