Im not sure the ringleader will be all that great. My first thought was 'well those effects together should be good in limited', my second thought was 'wait-- how many cards will be in there hand come turn 7?'...
The blue enchantment is perfect for EDH chaos. Not really powerful (but abusable with things like Venser), should be fun.
I kept magically reading the ringleader as though it had unleash... Why not? Why would you print a six costed 3/1 without real evasion? It does not take much work to guess that other cards are way better.
That card is templated improperly. "Strike" should not be capitalized and there should be a period at the end of the regen clause. Come on, if you're going to fake it, fake it right.
Am I reading the blue enchantment wrong? Or do people not realize that this is a 6 mana Mind control for whatever permanent you want. They don't have the permanent you want? Cool, it stays on your side of the field just waiting for it. Its a may ability.
The only problem is the upkeep part, but even thats more a trade off than a hindrance. This is a bomb in limited and EDH.
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So you are saying that out of 274 cards that there is a total of 13 playable, useful cards? I know there are entire threads dedicated to "Return to Retarded" as some are dubbing it, but seriously, what did you expect? The set has plenty of useful cards that work across a number of formats, and is lining up to be a huge success. I will admit it missed the mark in a few places (no Birds comes to mind), but that is true with every set. I would love to know the benchmark you are using to judge this set as a flop.
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Very disappointed with the Ringleader. While Conjured Currencyis bad, it's an obvious casual Johnny card with a very fun and unique effect. Rakdos Ringleader does nothing unique or interesting. He's horribly overcosted; at 2BR, he would have still been unplayable in constructed and only a good (Not great) uncommon for Limited. He's terrible in Limited, terrible in Constructed, and does nothing interesting enough to warrant casual interest.
I'm rather sick of these Bog Hoodlums-style cards. Bad cards will always exist, but obviously horrible cards that have no interesting aspects are just stupid and a waste of card stock.
Maybe a bit overcosted as a 6 drop. However, all of the abilities are very relevant, especially in limited. If he isn't killed instantly he can be very hard to remove with the current card pool.
Maybe a bit overcosted as a 6 drop. However, all of the abilities are very relevant, especially in limited. If he isn't killed instantly he can be very hard to remove with the current card pool.
It doesn't matter if he's difficult to remove or if he discards a card. When you're playing a 3 power creature with no evasion on turn 6 at earliest (7 if you want to dodge removal), you are not going to be able to properly respond to their 4 and 5 drops.
Being able to regenerate for one mana is worth a lot more than it used to be. Unlike the good old days of Drudge Skeletons, there are very few 'can't be regenerated' clauses in Standard. Even Incinerate made way for Searing Spear. Random discard is also better than the standard Specter clause we commonly see.
I can see this card costing five, and agree that there's no Constructed implications at six, but four seems way too low.
There aren't any constructed applications at 5 either. Compare Hypnotic specter, which costed only 1 color and had a far easier time getting through; it was 3 cmc and still saw little play when it was reprinted in Ninth Edition.
At 4 CMC I still don't see this getting into Constructed, since it doesn't fit into any strategy. Its power is way too low for something topping the aggro curve, it's too expensive for tempo, it's too lame for control, LOLcombo, and midrange can't use a body this small effectively. However, it would at least be very strong in Limited (Not Vampire Nighthawk strong, but often a first pick) and a decent choice for casual Rakdos decks.
How does that enchantment even work with Venser when Venser's ability is sorcery speed in your main phase while the enchantment triggers in your upkeep?
Rakdos Ringleader 4BR Uncommon
Skeleton Warrior
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Whenever Rakdos Ringleader deals combat damage to a player, that player discards a card at random
B: Regen Rakdos Ringleader
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It saddens me a little that they take this route only to get more money... By making good cards rarer the primary and the secondary market buy more boosters.
I know they are business after all and thats a good strategy for then but everything have a limit. Browing RTR spoiler i felt the absense of cards that are normaly constructed playable at common/uncommon (burn spells at 1, 2 and 3 mana costs; green ramp creatures and sorceries; blue bounce; WW costed white creature; BR creature removal; black 1 mana discard spell, many others).
The set will sell very well because it has staples for eternal formats (or maybe because limited is cool) but only time will tell if casuals players will quit the game. Imo RTR is huge step back from the past 3 sets who had a abudance of playable casual strategies (infect used almost all common/uncommon for exemple).
It doesn't matter if he's difficult to remove or if he discards a card. When you're playing a 3 power creature with no evasion on turn 6 at earliest (7 if you want to dodge removal), you are not going to be able to properly respond to their 4 and 5 drops.
There aren't any constructed applications at 5 either. Compare Hypnotic specter, which costed only 1 color and had a far easier time getting through; it was 3 cmc and still saw little play when it was reprinted in Ninth Edition.
At 4 CMC I still don't see this getting into Constructed, since it doesn't fit into any strategy. Its power is way too low for something topping the aggro curve, it's too expensive for tempo, it's too lame for control, LOLcombo, and midrange can't use a body this small effectively. However, it would at least be very strong in Limited (Not Vampire Nighthawk strong, but often a first pick) and a decent choice for casual Rakdos decks.
Fake; it's missing the period for the activated ability.
All very good points, especially the one about the card missing the period!
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What are you talking about, the limited format is going to be amazing, just like the last Ravnica. I don't know what you were expecting, but before you post in a public forum, here's a hint: do some research.
Darn crappy cards. Set is cool though. I don't like they know which rares are crappy and which are good by their spoiler schedule. Unleash not being on the rakdos guy is very surprising to me.
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It seems to me like Rakdos Ringleader was supposed to be a paincast card, but then paincast was killed and they just left the card in the set but without paincast. It would have been pretty strong if it did have paincast, though, or at least it would have been interesting. As it stands, it's definitely too expensive to play.
When I read Conjured Currency, the first thing I thought of was Venser. It seems like an interesting card to build around.
I think this set has a lot of appealing cards for all kinds of players. Because it's a multicolor block, Wizards can print stronger creatures and spells, so the set feels more powerful. They also included build-around, wacky effects that players will want to try and break. I really like this set as a whole.
I also think it's interesting how they killed paincast, then made Rakdos this huge incentive to try and play a paincast deck. Too bad it doesn't seem to be working, though.
Deadbore definitely
Rakdos, Lord of Riots himself
Rakdos Charm in sideboards
Apparently Rakdos's Return by the price it's going for everywhere
Rakdos Cackler maybe even in legacy
Carnival Hellsteed judging by the response of people here
Chaos Imps judging by the response of people here
Desecration Demon and Ultimate Price if you consider these Rakdos
If we are talking about limited, commander and casual too, I could go on. I could do this for every guild too. No guild was crapped on.
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The blue enchantment is perfect for EDH chaos. Not really powerful (but abusable with things like Venser), should be fun.
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these 2 are stinkers, but the set rocks.
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The only problem is the upkeep part, but even thats more a trade off than a hindrance. This is a bomb in limited and EDH.
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That Enchantment is bad, but could be fun in a casual Venser Control Deck.
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I am thinking you are saying that the cost is way to high? If so I agree completely I really like the idea of this card for draft and pre-release. That said take a look at this. http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=259274
So you are saying that out of 274 cards that there is a total of 13 playable, useful cards? I know there are entire threads dedicated to "Return to Retarded" as some are dubbing it, but seriously, what did you expect? The set has plenty of useful cards that work across a number of formats, and is lining up to be a huge success. I will admit it missed the mark in a few places (no Birds comes to mind), but that is true with every set. I would love to know the benchmark you are using to judge this set as a flop.
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I'm rather sick of these Bog Hoodlums-style cards. Bad cards will always exist, but obviously horrible cards that have no interesting aspects are just stupid and a waste of card stock.
Evasion and Haste are an awesome combination with the specter ability.
First Strike and Regeneration make me wonder if the designers were off their meds. They both basically do the same thing in most combat situations.
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It doesn't matter if he's difficult to remove or if he discards a card. When you're playing a 3 power creature with no evasion on turn 6 at earliest (7 if you want to dodge removal), you are not going to be able to properly respond to their 4 and 5 drops.
There aren't any constructed applications at 5 either. Compare Hypnotic specter, which costed only 1 color and had a far easier time getting through; it was 3 cmc and still saw little play when it was reprinted in Ninth Edition.
At 4 CMC I still don't see this getting into Constructed, since it doesn't fit into any strategy. Its power is way too low for something topping the aggro curve, it's too expensive for tempo, it's too lame for control, LOLcombo, and midrange can't use a body this small effectively. However, it would at least be very strong in Limited (Not Vampire Nighthawk strong, but often a first pick) and a decent choice for casual Rakdos decks.
Fake; it's missing the period for the activated ability.
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Skeleton Warrior
First Strike
Whenever Rakdos Ringleader deals combat damage to a player, that player discards a card at random
B: Regen Rakdos Ringleader
3/1
Wow, that's a horrible card.
It saddens me a little that they take this route only to get more money... By making good cards rarer the primary and the secondary market buy more boosters.
I know they are business after all and thats a good strategy for then but everything have a limit. Browing RTR spoiler i felt the absense of cards that are normaly constructed playable at common/uncommon (burn spells at 1, 2 and 3 mana costs; green ramp creatures and sorceries; blue bounce; WW costed white creature; BR creature removal; black 1 mana discard spell, many others).
The set will sell very well because it has staples for eternal formats (or maybe because limited is cool) but only time will tell if casuals players will quit the game. Imo RTR is huge step back from the past 3 sets who had a abudance of playable casual strategies (infect used almost all common/uncommon for exemple).
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All very good points, especially the one about the card missing the period!
What are you talking about, the limited format is going to be amazing, just like the last Ravnica. I don't know what you were expecting, but before you post in a public forum, here's a hint: do some research.
Feel free to tell me yours!
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When I read Conjured Currency, the first thing I thought of was Venser. It seems like an interesting card to build around.
I think this set has a lot of appealing cards for all kinds of players. Because it's a multicolor block, Wizards can print stronger creatures and spells, so the set feels more powerful. They also included build-around, wacky effects that players will want to try and break. I really like this set as a whole.
I also think it's interesting how they killed paincast, then made Rakdos this huge incentive to try and play a paincast deck. Too bad it doesn't seem to be working, though.
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