Wait, that's your question? The reminder text says right on it "target creature". Until they issue some official errata, that's how it works.
Are you reading the thread? It's a question multiple people are asking because the mechanics article says the following:
You can activate the scavenge ability of a creature card in your graveyard any time you could cast a sorcery by exiling it and paying its scavenge cost. That lets you put a number of +1/+1 counters equal to the scavenged creature's power onto a target creature you control.
While Sluiceway Scorpion is on the battlefield, scavenge doesn't do anything. It's once it dies (or gets into your graveyard some other way, such as by being discarded) that things get cool. Any time it's in your graveyard and you could cast a sorcery—i.e., during your main phase when the stack is empty—you can pay and exile Sluiceway Scorpion to put two +1/+1 counters on a target creature you control, because Sluiceway Scorpion's power is 2. (There's at least one scavenge creature with a power that changes while it's in your graveyard, but Sluiceway Scorpion's power is always 2 when it's in your graveyard.)
You can't activate a scavenge ability unless you control a creature you can target with it. If you activate a scavenge ability targeting a creature and then the creature leaves the battlefield or becomes an illegal target some other way (say, by gaining protection from one of the scavenged card's colors), the creature won't get any counters, but the creature card you scavenged will still be exiled.
It repeatedly iterates "creature you control." The question is if the card text got shortened for space reasons or if the article is wrong. As I already said, we'll have to wait for the FAQ to be sure.
The mechanics article is wrong until/unless they issue errata since none of the cards say they are restricted to creatures you control.
I'm working really hard to say this without sounding condescending.
Reminder text means absolutely nothing. My example of Soulbond was an example of that. It would not be "errata" to state that Scavenge only applies to creatures you control. It would be a clarification of what the Comp Rules say (or will say) about the ability word "Scavenge." Unless you have a line directly into Matt Tabak's brain, please stop dictating how a mechanic works until it is clarified by an official party.
EDIT: I've asked Matt Tabak about this on Twitter here. I'll update here when I get an answer; other people are free to check the link to see if/what he responds.
This means that you must answer the conditions both when the trigger is put on the stack and when it resolves. It comes up more than you might think, and it's just not on the text of the card..
Eha, that's a bit into the side of semantics. It's a given for all triggered abilities, so it's irrelevant. Heck, even ToFerocity triggers and checks at resolution, yet it doesn't spell this out on the card.
Eha, that's a bit into the side of semantics. It's a given for all triggered abilities, so it's irrelevant. Heck, even ToFerocity triggers and checks at resolution, yet it doesn't spell this out on the card.
Incorrect. That is not how it works for all triggered abilities.
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
Eha, that's a bit into the side of semantics. It's a given for all triggered abilities, so it's irrelevant. Heck, even ToFerocity triggers and checks at resolution, yet it doesn't spell this out on the card.
You do not understand how intervening "if" clauses work on triggers. If Triumph of Ferocity involved an intervening "if" clause, it would read as such:
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control the creature with the greatest power or tied for the greatest power, draw a card.
It would then check to see if you controlled the highest-power creature both at the time of the trigger and at the time it resolved.
As it stands, the trigger can be responded to in your favor--for instance, if you control a Wolfbitten Captive and your opponent controls a Runeclaw Bear, you can activate the Captive's ability, which will let you draw a card. If it used an intervening "if" clause, this would not work.
Are you reading the thread? It's a question multiple people are asking because the mechanics article says the following:
It repeatedly iterates "creature you control." The question is if the card text got shortened for space reasons or if the article is wrong. As I already said, we'll have to wait for the FAQ to be sure.
Standard: W/R Aggro
The mechanics article is wrong until/unless they issue errata since none of the cards say they are restricted to creatures you control.
I'm working really hard to say this without sounding condescending.
Reminder text means absolutely nothing. My example of Soulbond was an example of that. It would not be "errata" to state that Scavenge only applies to creatures you control. It would be a clarification of what the Comp Rules say (or will say) about the ability word "Scavenge." Unless you have a line directly into Matt Tabak's brain, please stop dictating how a mechanic works until it is clarified by an official party.
EDIT: I've asked Matt Tabak about this on Twitter here. I'll update here when I get an answer; other people are free to check the link to see if/what he responds.
Standard: W/R Aggro
Standard: W/R Aggro
Eha, that's a bit into the side of semantics. It's a given for all triggered abilities, so it's irrelevant. Heck, even ToFerocity triggers and checks at resolution, yet it doesn't spell this out on the card.
Incorrect. That is not how it works for all triggered abilities.
Rules Advisor as of 4/23/10
Regarding Stoneforge Mystic
You do not understand how intervening "if" clauses work on triggers. If Triumph of Ferocity involved an intervening "if" clause, it would read as such:
It would then check to see if you controlled the highest-power creature both at the time of the trigger and at the time it resolved.
As it stands, the trigger can be responded to in your favor--for instance, if you control a Wolfbitten Captive and your opponent controls a Runeclaw Bear, you can activate the Captive's ability, which will let you draw a card. If it used an intervening "if" clause, this would not work.
Standard: W/R Aggro