I love how they hype this thing up like its something wonderful and great. "What's in the kit?" How about a section highlighting what's NOT in the kit--the promos!
I enjoy how they dumped the player rewards because they were gonna "put that money into gateway promos" and then cut gateway promos.
Honestly, it feels like somebody at WotC (or Hassbro?) has decided its not a good idea to give away cards anymore, so they are giving out a bunch of useless crap instead.
In the past year they've removed how much support? And replaced it with crap like the helvault?
I'm not really upset about this change. Since ROE, Gateway has been mostly jank commons that people complain about every single set. Of course, that's because too many people cheated the system, just like Player Rewards. They really should have just cut it back then instead of giving out jank commons.
We also lost Pro Tour promos, but that was replaced with 2 GP promos to mirror the GP doubling.
The gateway promo cards were crap. Who cares if they are gone? The additional marketing materials will be BETTER for small stores because it helps them attract more people to the store.
Well, no more MPR promos, no more WPN promos. All that's left is FNM promos, and at this rate, they'll be gone too.
I really wonder who's idea these pr decisions are. I mean really.
Helvaults were a pr disaster. First they contained nothing, then you find out that some people got $5,000 in promos in theirs. It's full of treasures! But not yours.
Plus, MPR was a very popular program. I loved getting home and finding free promos. It was well loved, and it gave them free space for advertising too (Oversized cards with fnm ads on the back). Cut It!
Oh yeah, and what was that? You want promotional items for your store, things that'll excite new players? Here's some window clings and a dry erase board! They'll love it!
Also Prerelease promos, GP promos and Judge promos.
I wonder if there wasn't a feasible way to send the MPR cards to shops instead of individuals, so that players can collect them from the LGS. Less shipping costs, gets players in to the shops more.
Yes, WPN promos were good prior to ROE. It doesn't really matter what they did years ago. That's like saying FNM promos are as valuable as judge foils because of Brainstorm and Swords to Plowshares.
So first MPR gets cut so we can have more "surprises" at the store level, then we lose our mythic prerelease promos (no good reason for this one, at least not for the players), then gateway promos at the store level get cut so we can get more things nobody wants like custom M&Ms and the Helvault.... =\
Seriously, it's been well over a year since we've lost MPR and been promised to get more surprises @ store level. As far as I can tell, we had the free booster pack day and that was it. Doesn't really make up for a year's worth of promos, and it certainly doesn't make up for decreased prerelease promo quality and cuts to store programs.
Also Prerelease promos, GP promos and Judge promos.
I wonder if there wasn't a feasible way to send the MPR cards to shops instead of individuals, so that players can collect them from the LGS. Less shipping costs, gets players in to the shops more.
Buy a box!
The problem with MPR was people making fraudulent accounts to harvest more promos. Stores would hold "events" with 16 players (none of which actually existed) every week or so and use their points to get crisp $10 bills mailed to them. I can't really blame them for shutting that down. But there has to be an alternative. More promos for FNM style events?
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The problem with MPR was people making fraudulent accounts to harvest more promos. Stores would hold "events" with 16 players (none of which actually existed) every week or so and use their points to get crisp $10 bills mailed to them. I can't really blame them for shutting that down. But there has to be an alternative. More promos for FNM style events?
Those were fairly easy to catch by an automated script if WoTC wanted to put in the effort; some stores had their prizes shipped to the same P.O. box.
This was just a way for WOTC to save money and lie to us about future programs to keep us happy.
To be fair, there is nothing stopping WoTC from just shipping Gateway promos with a different promo shipment or something.
This kit is yearly, after all.
Hopefully this new change will be further clarified by someone in OP soon.
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To be fair, there is nothing stopping WoTC from just shipping Gateway promos with a different promo shipment or something.
This kit is yearly, after all.
Hopefully this new change will be further clarified by someone in OP soon.
Where would it look exciting, though? I guess you could throw them in the release kit or the prerelease kit, but they already have rare promos in them. Even without them, we still get 5 promos (4 rares) within a month of the set release in addition to FNM at the store level. I'd personally rather have more of those oversized commanders and some dice than some limited fodder common that's not even useful for casual decks.
Has no effect on me at all. I never knew how to get them and never got one, but this is still a little disappointing that they stopped something else.
Same here, never had any idea how to get these and never got any (probably because my LGS is too small to host tournaments). Still, it sucks for those who did enjoy them.
http://www.wizards.com/wpn/News/Article.aspx?x=2012_05_07_WPNTMarketingKit
I love how they hype this thing up like its something wonderful and great. "What's in the kit?" How about a section highlighting what's NOT in the kit--the promos!
Honestly, it feels like somebody at WotC (or Hassbro?) has decided its not a good idea to give away cards anymore, so they are giving out a bunch of useless crap instead.
In the past year they've removed how much support? And replaced it with crap like the helvault?
MTGS egos at their finest.
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This is just going to hurt small stores, even if the promo cards weren't very good people have a lot of fun winning something extra.
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Just another move made by Big Brother (hasbro) to cut costs and make more money.
Here's an idea; reprint P9 and sell them directly to players.
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We also lost Pro Tour promos, but that was replaced with 2 GP promos to mirror the GP doubling.
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All of hte promo cards were playable in the sense that you could actually, if you wanted to, play them.
The new crap isn't even that.
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I really wonder who's idea these pr decisions are. I mean really.
Helvaults were a pr disaster. First they contained nothing, then you find out that some people got $5,000 in promos in theirs. It's full of treasures! But not yours.
Plus, MPR was a very popular program. I loved getting home and finding free promos. It was well loved, and it gave them free space for advertising too (Oversized cards with fnm ads on the back). Cut It!
Oh yeah, and what was that? You want promotional items for your store, things that'll excite new players? Here's some window clings and a dry erase board! They'll love it!
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I wonder if there wasn't a feasible way to send the MPR cards to shops instead of individuals, so that players can collect them from the LGS. Less shipping costs, gets players in to the shops more.
Ux Whirza
Rb Goblins
Legacy
U Urza Stompy
Duel Commander
Sai, Master Thopterist
Seriously, it's been well over a year since we've lost MPR and been promised to get more surprises @ store level. As far as I can tell, we had the free booster pack day and that was it. Doesn't really make up for a year's worth of promos, and it certainly doesn't make up for decreased prerelease promo quality and cuts to store programs.
Buy a box!
The problem with MPR was people making fraudulent accounts to harvest more promos. Stores would hold "events" with 16 players (none of which actually existed) every week or so and use their points to get crisp $10 bills mailed to them. I can't really blame them for shutting that down. But there has to be an alternative. More promos for FNM style events?
Those were fairly easy to catch by an automated script if WoTC wanted to put in the effort; some stores had their prizes shipped to the same P.O. box.
This was just a way for WOTC to save money and lie to us about future programs to keep us happy.
This kit is yearly, after all.
Hopefully this new change will be further clarified by someone in OP soon.
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Where would it look exciting, though? I guess you could throw them in the release kit or the prerelease kit, but they already have rare promos in them. Even without them, we still get 5 promos (4 rares) within a month of the set release in addition to FNM at the store level. I'd personally rather have more of those oversized commanders and some dice than some limited fodder common that's not even useful for casual decks.
Same here, never had any idea how to get these and never got any (probably because my LGS is too small to host tournaments). Still, it sucks for those who did enjoy them.
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Maybe a few randomly-selected WPN Advanced stores will be getting the Premium Trade Marketing Kit with judge foils inside.
I bet this is actually what happens. Seems right up Wizard's alley.
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