Yeah, I guess it would make more sence to reprint the kill spells in from Ravnica instead. A guy can wish though.
What set it's from is the lesser issue.
The reason it won't be reprinted is because it's a way too powerful answer to basically everything. Oblivion Ring is already one of the strongest pieces of removal in standard, Vindicate being significantly better.
I'm guessing red since we haven't had a (just) U/R PW yet and he's pictured with Niv. Of course if NIv becomes a PW then I'm sure he would be U/R so my guess for Jace would be U/B.
Hrmmm. I really hope it isn't an all gold block, as this slightly implies. Rav had the appropriate amount of gold cards for its design imo. Of course, maro uses his mystical abilities of vagueness to rustle our jimmies. Oh how vigorously maro can rustle them jimmies.
The reason it won't be reprinted is because it's a way too powerful answer to basically everything. Oblivion Ring is already one of the strongest pieces of removal in standard, Vindicate being significantly better.
Vindicate is great and a little op, but not to much so that it will never get reprinted again. Ravnica would be a good place for it to see a reprint.
I'm guessing red since we haven't had a (just) U/R PW yet and he's pictured with Niv. Of course if NIv becomes a PW then I'm sure he would be U/R so my guess for Jace would be U/B.
Yeah, I don't really see an argument for any other colour based on the knowledge we have now (story-wise and otherwise). UB seems unlikely too seeing as that's the shift the other monoblue walker took (and fairly recently).
Plus Niv -Mizzet is dead, so not coming back as a UR walker unless they rewrite history as they did with Venser.
He could be mono-blue, but we've already had three monoblue Jaces, so UR is the most speculatively promising.
No. Compare it to Putrefy, which is a very good card. Vindicate is mkilion times better sinse it gets rid of everything. It's too powerful and it was stated many times that it won't come back.
Just because they say it is not likey does not mean it will not happen. After all, we are going back to Ravnica when they said they were not. If its not reserved, it may be reprinted.
Yeah, I don't really see an argument for any other colour based on the knowledge we have now (story-wise and otherwise). UB seems unlikely too seeing as that's the shift the other monoblue walker took (and fairly recently).
Plus Niv -Mizzet is dead, so not coming back as a UR walker unless they rewrite history as they did with Venser.
He could be mono-blue, but we've already had three monoblue Jaces, so UR is the most speculatively promising.
In the original DotP game there were 2 jace decks. One was U, the other was WU.
In story it's been stated he wrestles constantly how he should use his power. He has the possibility to be both UB or WU. In my opinion, people see jace as the power ranger of magic and he'll probably be WU if anything. But I wouldn't doubt at all that Jace becomes as much as a story tool as Bolas and may eventually be a UB card.
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Just because they say it is not likey does not mean it will not happen. After all, we are going back to Ravnica when they said they were not. If its not reserved, it may be reprinted.
Well you're obviously not a competitive player if you don't understand the detrimental influence with introducing Vindicate into standard. It is absolutely not going to happen.
Regardless, I don't think deck colour from a two year old game is a good indication. In that environment they make choices which try to build interesting gameplay, and thus built a UW deck they thought worked well which they had to assign to someone.
Indeed.
Mono-colored Ravnica would be like Mirrodin with no Artifacts,
or Ulragotha with constructed-viable cards...
lol good one.
I dont think it will be all gold. and even if it is, it wont be in the same way that alara reborn was. I think having a large set like that wouldnt work so well
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Personally, I loved ARB just BECAUSE it was all gold. Guess I have a thing for multicolored cards. Thrilled at the idea the return to Ravnica could be the same/similar.
I hate ARB just BECAUSE it was all gold and it burn'd me out with the overload of Multicolored spells.
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Actually, this doesn't confirm that RTR is multi-color themed. All this tells us is what their plans were at one time. I agree that it's a 99.9% chance of gold, but it's not set in stone.
No other ability on any of his cards is anything but U,U,U.
In my opinion, the only way Jace could ever cost black to play is if, somehow,
he starts to re-remember what he did in his place of origin, goes batpoo nuts
and it was reflected in his card.
Yeah, I don't really see an argument for any other colour based on the knowledge we have now (story-wise and otherwise). UB seems unlikely too seeing as that's the shift the other monoblue walker took (and fairly recently).
Plus Niv -Mizzet is dead, so not coming back as a UR walker unless they rewrite history as they did with Venser.
He could be mono-blue, but we've already had three monoblue Jaces, so UR is the most speculatively promising.
That's not how WoTC designs planeswalkers. They don't try to even out the number of planeswalkers for every color and color combination. They strictly design planeswalker colors with only the story in mind. WoTC has said this over and over again.
He would be awfuly similiar to Tezzeret... UW seems much more likely since they already killed Venser...
See above. Just because Venser, an UW planeswalker died, doesn't mean WoTC needs to fill in the gap so UW has a planeswalker before the other colors. They design planeswalker colors by the storyline, not to balance out every color and color combination having a planeswalker alive or to even out the number of planeswalkers across every color combination....
They strictly design planeswalker colors with only the story in mind. WoTC has said this over and over again.
Could you link to any statements which substantiate that claim? Venser's colours were clearly picked for in-game mechanical reasons, (slow)blinking is a white ability, as well as the "exile permanents" in his ultimate. In none of the books is teleporting/blinking presented as a quality of white-aligned characters.
See above. Just because Venser, an UW planeswalker died, doesn't mean WoTC needs to fill in the gap so UW has a planeswalker before the other colors. They design planeswalker colors by the storyline, not to balance out every color and color combination having a planeswalker alive or to even out the number of planeswalkers across every color combination....
Then why has there not once been two planeswalkers of the same combination in the same block?
Could you link to any statements which substantiate that claim? Venser's colours were clearly picked for in-game mechanical reasons, (slow)blinking is a white ability, as well as the "exile permanents" in his ultimate. In none of the books is teleporting/blinking presented as a quality of white-aligned characters.
Then why has there not once been two planeswalkers of the same combination in the same block?
Note how I said "of the same combination" and not "of the same colour". Venser and Elspeth were both Scars block, Shards had Ajani and Sarkhan (and Bolas). Zen had Chandra and Sarkhan the Mad.
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Jace has casted white healing spells in the books. If he had to go another color, barring anything unforeseen, that has to be the biggest indicator of color shift we have. Anything can happen though, and he could end up being any color pair really. They just change the story to make the cards they want, when they want.
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What set it's from is the lesser issue.
The reason it won't be reprinted is because it's a way too powerful answer to basically everything. Oblivion Ring is already one of the strongest pieces of removal in standard, Vindicate being significantly better.
I'm guessing red since we haven't had a (just) U/R PW yet and he's pictured with Niv. Of course if NIv becomes a PW then I'm sure he would be U/R so my guess for Jace would be U/B.
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Vindicate is great and a little op, but not to much so that it will never get reprinted again. Ravnica would be a good place for it to see a reprint.
Yeah, I don't really see an argument for any other colour based on the knowledge we have now (story-wise and otherwise). UB seems unlikely too seeing as that's the shift the other monoblue walker took (and fairly recently).
He could be mono-blue, but we've already had three monoblue Jaces, so UR is the most speculatively promising.
Uh, what?
Jace's deck is monoblue in both DotP games.
Just because they say it is not likey does not mean it will not happen. After all, we are going back to Ravnica when they said they were not. If its not reserved, it may be reprinted.
Dead according to whom?
In the original DotP game there were 2 jace decks. One was U, the other was WU.
In story it's been stated he wrestles constantly how he should use his power. He has the possibility to be both UB or WU. In my opinion, people see jace as the power ranger of magic and he'll probably be WU if anything. But I wouldn't doubt at all that Jace becomes as much as a story tool as Bolas and may eventually be a UB card.
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Well you're obviously not a competitive player if you don't understand the detrimental influence with introducing Vindicate into standard. It is absolutely not going to happen.
Regardless, I don't think deck colour from a two year old game is a good indication. In that environment they make choices which try to build interesting gameplay, and thus built a UW deck they thought worked well which they had to assign to someone.
lol good one.
I dont think it will be all gold. and even if it is, it wont be in the same way that alara reborn was. I think having a large set like that wouldnt work so well
I invision a future where one is not mighty when he can silence a crowd with brutality,
but when he leaves them speechless with wisdom.
I hate ARB just BECAUSE it was all gold and it burn'd me out with the overload of Multicolored spells.
He most certainly is not dead... go check out the storyline part of the forum...
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is identical to the Dimir spell Glimpse the Unthinkable.
No other ability on any of his cards is anything but U,U,U.
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Glimpse is black only because milling was an allegory for erasing people's minds, which House Dimir did extensively (i guess).
However, black has dabbled in milling before, if not in different forms such as extraction, etc.
Honestly, I see Jace being WUB. We need more tri-colored walkers, and turning him dual-colored is unimaginative.
Nothing says angst like a mana cost of WUB.
In my opinion, the only way Jace could ever cost black to play is if, somehow,
he starts to re-remember what he did in his place of origin, goes batpoo nuts
and it was reflected in his card.
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That's not how WoTC designs planeswalkers. They don't try to even out the number of planeswalkers for every color and color combination. They strictly design planeswalker colors with only the story in mind. WoTC has said this over and over again.
See above. Just because Venser, an UW planeswalker died, doesn't mean WoTC needs to fill in the gap so UW has a planeswalker before the other colors. They design planeswalker colors by the storyline, not to balance out every color and color combination having a planeswalker alive or to even out the number of planeswalkers across every color combination....
Could you link to any statements which substantiate that claim? Venser's colours were clearly picked for in-game mechanical reasons, (slow)blinking is a white ability, as well as the "exile permanents" in his ultimate. In none of the books is teleporting/blinking presented as a quality of white-aligned characters.
Then why has there not once been two planeswalkers of the same combination in the same block?
Technically ISD had two black PWs.
Note how I said "of the same combination" and not "of the same colour". Venser and Elspeth were both Scars block, Shards had Ajani and Sarkhan (and Bolas). Zen had Chandra and Sarkhan the Mad.
This is good to hear.
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