one trend i would love to see end..
calling 2 color cards by there old ravnica guild names.
like calling red/white in type 2 boros STOP!!
same goes for anything tri color. stop calling them by the old bant/esper/etc
on topic - awesome art.
though the floating chunks of land in the background make me think zendikar.
and im guessing that thing isnt to control weather. probly like a jet pack to give him flying. (how he gets on roofs lol)
possibly some kind of "if this guys equiped" type deal
(if it IS a return to ravnica, it might be there time to unleash modern magic.)
OK he could easily be Izzet and that could easily be Ravnica. For some reason I didn't remember Ravnica having floating buildings though. I guess this could be a return to Ravnica.
I also like to imagine that he has a rotating torso (like a metallic graft that fuses his upper and lower body together), so he can spin all around, leveling everything within 20ft of him to rubble.
And high in their secret lair, R&D and Marketing watch their high-def crystal balls and rub their hands together in glee. "They have found the hidden picture. Now watch how they speculate! We'll sell millions of packs of Innistrad, regardless of whether we print him or not!"
I think the plane that is in the background is much to gothic to be ravnica look at the side by side comparison its not the same "art" style on the buildings. It almsot seems like they are from two diffrent time periods. Kind of like the diffrence between certain cathedrals in parts of Europe.
one trend i would love to see end..
calling 2 color cards by there old ravnica guild names.
like calling red/white in type 2 boros STOP!!
same goes for anything tri color. stop calling them by the old bant/esper/etc
on topic - awesome art.
though the floating chunks of land in the background make me think zendikar.
and im guessing that thing isnt to control weather. probly like a jet pack to give him flying. (how he gets on roofs lol)
possibly some kind of "if this guys equiped" type deal
(if it IS a return to ravnica, it might be there time to unleash modern magic.)
Except this guy was clearly a member of the Izzet Guild. The clothes are a dead give away.
And Wizards created the guilds to have something to reference two color combos by.
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That was pretty interesting. But dropping a warship on me is cheating. Take it back!
I'm sure we'll see him in future DoTP content releases, and I'd say there's a good chance that we'll see him as a card in the near future, though it's hard to say for certain.
He may or may not be not be associated with the Izzet or the organizations that splintered off from the Izzet following the end of the Guildpact, but that spell-enhancing equipment he's wearing is unmistakably of Izzet design.
My guess is that he's some kind of electro-elementalist; he seems too at ease standing on top of a tall building in the middle of a thunderstorm not to be.
It looks like he's either powering a weather-manipulating device, or using it to power himself. I like to think the former, because it doesn't seem very "Planeswalky" to rely on a machine for powars.
The equipment could just be a focus for his spells, much like Gideon uses his sural.
one trend i would love to see end..
calling 2 color cards by there old ravnica guild names.
like calling red/white in type 2 boros STOP!!
same goes for anything tri color. stop calling them by the old bant/esper/etc
on topic - awesome art.
though the floating chunks of land in the background make me think zendikar.
and im guessing that thing isnt to control weather. probly like a jet pack to give him flying. (how he gets on roofs lol)
possibly some kind of "if this guys equiped" type deal
(if it IS a return to ravnica, it might be there time to unleash modern magic.)
With 10's of thousands of cards in Magic I, for one, welcome easy descriptors.
as for the art: fingers in the suspenders? He's clearly The Man.
Could be an Izzet name. They all have three syllables to venerate Niv Mizzet (who btw might be a planeswalker albeit a lesser one in comparison to the great Nicol Bolas)
I think the plane that is in the background is much to gothic to be ravnica look at the side by side comparison its not the same "art" style on the buildings. It almsot seems like they are from two diffrent time periods. Kind of like the diffrence between certain cathedrals in parts of Europe.
Or the difference between guilded ravnica and post guild ravnica?
Ravnica had some very gothic like architecture too. It was the favoured motiv of the Orzhov.
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The background screams Gothic Architecture to me, making me think that not only is he pictured in Innistrad, but also that Innistrad may even have some sort of enemy color pair theme or sub-theme. All wild speculation, but I like to believe we'll see some more enemy-colored walkers this coming year.
That could definitely be Ravnica on the background - the floating buildings are odd, but the plane is supposed to have changed a lot since a set last depicted it.
Has anyone thought that he could just be a legendary creature, not a planeswalker? I mean sure, there's a small chance. But a chance.
Regardless, his style is definitely similar to the Izzet guild. Having a dragon tattooed on his arm certainly helps that idea. The city behind him could be Ravnica. Could almost as easily not be.
Here's hoping we'll have a return to Ravnica sometime soon.
one trend i would love to see end..
calling 2 color cards by there old ravnica guild names.
like calling red/white in type 2 boros STOP!!
same goes for anything tri color. stop calling them by the old bant/esper/etc
Agreed. But we're outnumbered on the subject, so it's best we just shut up for now. Also, I'm sure you caught it, but they said he was Izzet as in from the guild, not just that he's UR.
He definitely has ties to the former Izzet, and that scene is definitely on Ravnica. As for the storminess, some may recall that the Izzet guild had managed to bring control to the plane's weather patterns, eliminating almost all natural disasters (while dramatically increasing the number of unnatural ones). With no unified guilds, there is no Izzet to manage the weather any more, so things like storms would be more common now.
Also: New planeswalker characters in Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012 won't necessarily be seen on actual cards any time soon, or at all. A return to Ravnica at some point in the future may be likely, considering the popularity of the return to Mirrodin, but such a set won't happen until years in the future at least, because a block with that concept wouldn't have work started on it until the public's reaction to Scars block came in, which was only recently. R&D works at least a couple years in the future. Don't forget that.
Also: New planeswalker characters in Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012 won't necessarily be seen on actual cards any time soon, or at all. A return to Ravnica at some point in the future may be likely, considering the popularity of the return to Mirrodin, but such a set won't happen until years in the future at least, because a block with that concept wouldn't have work started on it until the public's reaction to Scars block came in, which was only recently. R&D works at least a couple years in the future. Don't forget that.
The flipside of that is that commissioning art for a planeswalker (which this undoubtedly is give the dimensions, posing and focus on the character) is not something they just do. It's a calculated move they do when they have a character in mind that they're going to use. And though you're right in that we may not see Ral here anytime soon, a part of me doesn't find it likely they'd develop a character enough to commission art only to never use the character at all. I can't see Wizards expending time and resources creating characters and tasking artists to depict them to keep all that in a folder somewhere never to see the light of day.
His background arguably being Ravnica doesn't necessarily mean he won't show up on Innistrad (note I say on the plane Innistrad itself, I don't feel we'll see him in the large set but the possibility is there for his inclusion in one of Innistrad's expansions), it could simply be depicting him in his native element even if the story won't have him there.
Commissioning it for use in the Duels game, and reserving the option of using it again in the future, is reason enough I think. While not using this character again in the future would in the end be wasteful, this could also be something of a testing ground to see which new characters are most popular with players (with polls and such) and if one doesn't have much appeal, they can let them drop off and never be seen again. I don't think that's likely, especially not for this particular character (folks love them some Izzet) but it's still an option available to them.
Edit: New card names from those files are Skirsdag Cultist and Murder of Crows.
An izzet themed walker would be very strange. i just cant stop thinking about the ability i came up with for one. Definitely a negative loyalty ability - 3 damage to target creature/player and return target permanent to its owner's hand.
could be crippling
Commissioning it for use in the Duels game, and reserving the option of using it again in the future, is reason enough I think. While not using this character again in the future would in the end be wasteful, this could also be something of a testing ground to see which new characters are most popular with players (with polls and such) and if one doesn't have much appeal, they can let them drop off and never be seen again. I don't think that's likely, especially not for this particular character (folks love them some Izzet) but it's still an option available to them.
I could see that, though I think there is a certain level of expectation given to players when they are introduced to a character that they'll see that character in a set. Which, since Ral Zarek was apparently removed from D12, may be reason enough not to expect him anytime soon if at all.
I think the fact that he sports two new cards is reason enough to believe he'll be in Innistrad. Would be odd to make up a new character that will never be used just to preview new cards.
As for his removal, methinks he may be saved for DLC.
Wow, these two look VERY much like the same world. Interesting...
calling 2 color cards by there old ravnica guild names.
like calling red/white in type 2 boros STOP!!
same goes for anything tri color. stop calling them by the old bant/esper/etc
on topic - awesome art.
though the floating chunks of land in the background make me think zendikar.
and im guessing that thing isnt to control weather. probly like a jet pack to give him flying. (how he gets on roofs lol)
possibly some kind of "if this guys equiped" type deal
(if it IS a return to ravnica, it might be there time to unleash modern magic.)
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And he has a dragon tattoo on his arm, that is pretty neat as well.
Rocketer Planeswalker with a Steampunk vibe is something I could get behind for sure.
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Except this guy was clearly a member of the Izzet Guild. The clothes are a dead give away.
And Wizards created the guilds to have something to reference two color combos by.
He may or may not be not be associated with the Izzet or the organizations that splintered off from the Izzet following the end of the Guildpact, but that spell-enhancing equipment he's wearing is unmistakably of Izzet design.
My guess is that he's some kind of electro-elementalist; he seems too at ease standing on top of a tall building in the middle of a thunderstorm not to be.
The equipment could just be a focus for his spells, much like Gideon uses his sural.
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With 10's of thousands of cards in Magic I, for one, welcome easy descriptors.
as for the art: fingers in the suspenders? He's clearly The Man.
Could be an Izzet name. They all have three syllables to venerate Niv Mizzet (who btw might be a planeswalker albeit a lesser one in comparison to the great Nicol Bolas)
Or the difference between guilded ravnica and post guild ravnica?
Ravnica had some very gothic like architecture too. It was the favoured motiv of the Orzhov.
That could definitely be Ravnica on the background - the floating buildings are odd, but the plane is supposed to have changed a lot since a set last depicted it.
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Regardless, his style is definitely similar to the Izzet guild. Having a dragon tattooed on his arm certainly helps that idea. The city behind him could be Ravnica. Could almost as easily not be.
Here's hoping we'll have a return to Ravnica sometime soon.
Agreed. But we're outnumbered on the subject, so it's best we just shut up for now. Also, I'm sure you caught it, but they said he was Izzet as in from the guild, not just that he's UR.
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Also: New planeswalker characters in Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012 won't necessarily be seen on actual cards any time soon, or at all. A return to Ravnica at some point in the future may be likely, considering the popularity of the return to Mirrodin, but such a set won't happen until years in the future at least, because a block with that concept wouldn't have work started on it until the public's reaction to Scars block came in, which was only recently. R&D works at least a couple years in the future. Don't forget that.
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The flipside of that is that commissioning art for a planeswalker (which this undoubtedly is give the dimensions, posing and focus on the character) is not something they just do. It's a calculated move they do when they have a character in mind that they're going to use. And though you're right in that we may not see Ral here anytime soon, a part of me doesn't find it likely they'd develop a character enough to commission art only to never use the character at all. I can't see Wizards expending time and resources creating characters and tasking artists to depict them to keep all that in a folder somewhere never to see the light of day.
His background arguably being Ravnica doesn't necessarily mean he won't show up on Innistrad (note I say on the plane Innistrad itself, I don't feel we'll see him in the large set but the possibility is there for his inclusion in one of Innistrad's expansions), it could simply be depicting him in his native element even if the story won't have him there.
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Curse PremiumSo a little more digging, I found his decklists... STORM CROW!
First time you fight him deck: (filename D12_STORM.XML)
"Revenge" deck (filename D12_REVENGE_STORM.XML)
His Archenemy Scheme deck: (filename D12_SCHEME_STORM.XML)
Edit: New card names from those files are Skirsdag Cultist and Murder of Crows.
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Curse PremiumAjani:
filename D12_AJANI_AURAMANCER.XML
filename D12_AJANI_REVENGE.XML
filename D12_AJANI_SCHEME.XML
Liliana:
I also found some Ajani deck that seems unused. Perhaps this should be in it's own thread?
filename D12_LILIANA.XML
filename D12_LILIANA_REVENGE.XML
filename D12_LILIANA_SCHEME.XML
could be crippling
I could see that, though I think there is a certain level of expectation given to players when they are introduced to a character that they'll see that character in a set. Which, since Ral Zarek was apparently removed from D12, may be reason enough not to expect him anytime soon if at all.
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Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains
As for his removal, methinks he may be saved for DLC.
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Fantastic find! More new cardnames too. I posted a new thread collecting the new names from all six decklists.
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