"Shandra" and "garOOK" are both odd pronunciations that contradict previous mothership statements, but it's not too surprising -- if unfortunate -- that the people who make a video for WotC could fail to know the correct pronunciations determined by creative. Just a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, and the company not wanting to pay for a second take.
The idea that this is fake is pretty laughable -- this is clearly something that a ton of effort went into, and bares a strong resemblance to previous WotC promos. The "2013" logo could have been pasted on, but the simplest explanation is that it's legit.
As a side note, I really want to know where the idea that Garruk is pronounced GahROOK came from.
The words Rustle and Rust, in the English language, are not pronounce with a "roo" sound. There'd be 2 "u"s or 2 "o"s in Garruk's name it if were pronounced this way.
I say Gehr-uck. I thought everyone said it that way, it seemed evident from the spelling.
Saying Chandra wrong is stupid, seeing as it's a real name.
On Topic, New Ajani sounds cool. God forbid he's 3cmc. New Bolas too.
I really, really, REAAAALLLLY, want to see Sarkhan back.
As a side note, I really want to know where the idea that Garruk is pronounced GahROOK came from.
The words Rustle and Rust, in the English language, are not pronounce with a "roo" sound. There'd be 2 "u"s or 2 "o"s in Garruk's name it if were pronounced this way.
I say Gehr-uck. I thought everyone said it that way, it seemed evident from the spelling.
Saying Chandra wrong is stupid, seeing as it's a real name.
On Topic, New Ajani sounds cool. God forbid he's 3cmc. New Bolas too.
I really, really, REAAAALLLLY, want to see Sarkhan back.
Many of the folks in my local meta say "gah-ROOK" with the OO sound as in ROOT. It makes my ears bleed. I concur with your analysis regarding how it should sound based on spelling.
Chandra is a real name and I haven't encountered anyone who says "SHAN-dra" yet. Then again, I live in a city with a major teaching hospital, so there are plenty of examples. Most even roll the "r" sound a single time in the same way that the Japanese language uses it. Like the Japanese pronounce their word for "dragon", "ryu" (No, not "ree-yu" or "rye-oo")
It's somewhat disappointing if this is anything but a Duels expansion. I certainly can't imagine that an actual M13 product would be leaked so many months out and so few months since the release of M12. I expect this is just a Duels expansion as there are periodic deck releases with this game as opposed to D11.
This is the Rumor Mill, though, so I guess we'll see soon enough!
As a side note, I really want to know where the idea that Garruk is pronounced GahROOK came from.
The words Rustle and Rust, in the English language, are not pronounce with a "roo" sound. There'd be 2 "u"s or 2 "o"s in Garruk's name it if were pronounced this way.
I say Gehr-uck. I thought everyone said it that way, it seemed evident from the spelling.
Saying Chandra wrong is stupid, seeing as it's a real name.
On Topic, New Ajani sounds cool. God forbid he's 3cmc. New Bolas too.
I really, really, REAAAALLLLY, want to see Sarkhan back.
I say "shahn'-dra," "gare'-uk," and "man'-uh". But I've heard other pronunciations. Is there an official pronunciation guide out there? I thought it was weird hearing Maro say "fur-'ex-ians" when talking about MBS.
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I say "shahn'-dra," "gare'-uk," and "man'-uh". But I've heard other pronunciations. Is there an official pronunciation guide out there? I thought it was weird hearing Maro say "fur-'ex-ians" when talking about MBS.
I can't really find an alternate pronounciation for mana.
"Mayne-uh"?
Honestly, it isn't like when people pronounce Garruk wrong, that you don't even know what it is. I bet different people from within WOTC each pronounce the word differently.
Whether it's real or not, it's really well done. While that does suggest that it's official, it doesn't by any means necessitate it. The card arts seem to be taken from a lot of different sets, so that points against it, but then it's a core set...
Does anyone know if the art of Lilliana with all the zombies and chains has been used anywhere before?
Whether it's real or not, it's really well done. While that does suggest that it's official, it doesn't by any means necessitate it. The card arts seem to be taken from a lot of different sets, so that points against it, but then it's a core set...
Does anyone know if the art of Lilliana with all the zombies and chains has been used anywhere before?
It was to be the cover of the Curse of the Chain Veil before they cancelled it for whatever reason. Personally, I'm hoping it was quality control.
Well, it seems 100% legit to me. AND it looks as though the 3 new Walkers from M12 will come back with a new Liliana and Ajani to boot. I don't know if what we saw confirms a Nicol Bolas, but I wouldn't be shocked. But it definitely looks like we'll get Ajani/Liliana #3 to go along with the others to have 3 each of the original five. It all lines up well now.
This video had a lot of wavy and distorting animations, whereas the previous animations are scaling, translation, and rotating animations. It is a tiny difference, but might point to a different art studio or artist. Still an awesome advertisement.
I would like to see Liliana version 3, just for the sake of having the same artist who drew Firebrand, Primal Hunter, and Memory Adept, and the fact that the aforementioned 3 are the third version of the same planeswalker, well Garruk is version 2, but with Relentless, that would make it 3 Garruks, leaving Liliana the only Lorwyn 5 to only have 2 versions, provided if they don't use a brand new Liliana for M13.
A set of 5 planeswalkers that are all not the Lorwyn 5, would be um, Elspeth, Tezzeret, Sorin, Koth, and Nissa? I don't know.
I would like to see Liliana version 3, just for the sake of having the same artist who drew Firebrand, Primal Hunter, and Memory Adept, and the fact that the aforementioned 3 are the third version of the same planeswalker, well Garruk is version 2, but with Relentless, that would make it 3 Garruks, leaving Liliana the only Lorwyn 5 to only have 2 versions, provided if they don't use a brand new Liliana for M13.
A set of 5 planeswalkers that are all not the Lorwyn 5, would be um, Elspeth, Tezzeret, Sorin, Koth, and Nissa? I don't know.
You forgot Ajani.;)
I for one would love a third Ajani incarnation! After all, he is my favorite character from the series.
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I for one would love a third Ajani incarnation! After all, he is my favorite character from the series.
Ajani is in the lorwyn five though.
They were: garruk, jace, chandra, ajani, liliana.
My take on the non-lorwyn coreset walkers would be:
Elspethv1 (OH GOD MOST OP draft card EVER!), tezzeret v1, koth, a new green walker (green is SERIOUSLY SHAFTED IN WALKERS) and sorin.
Nissa won't work in a new set due to needing a reprint of nissa's chosen - which could be done, but it would make you try to draft elf tribal which wouldn't work usually.
I also think these 5 (assuming a good new green walker) are relatively balanced.
Elspeth is boss, tezz if you pulled artifacts would be amazing, both for tutoring and untapping your creatures/other artifacts, koth would be the perfect red lategame card, and sorin is sorin - 2 damage per turn is nothing to sneeze at.
I have the video downloaded, but I don't have a youtube account, rapidshare or megaupload account and I think free versions of those services have a max download limit. So if anyone else would like to upload it, pm me and I can work out a way to send it to you.
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I have the video downloaded, but I don't have a youtube account, rapidshare or megaupload account and I think free versions of those services have a max download limit. So if anyone else would like to upload it, pm me and I can work out a way to send it to you.
just upload it on fileserve. it shouldn't be too big. 40-50MB?
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I for one would love a third Ajani incarnation! After all, he is my favorite character from the series.
Yeah, my claim took into account Ajani as well. THe reason why I emphasized Liliana was that her second form could easily be a planeswalker in M13, while Ajani's second form can't. To keep with the pattern, Liliana needs to have a brand new card, just so one of her three forms never made it into a core set, much like the other 4.
just upload it on fileserve. it shouldn't be too big. 40-50MB?
Thanks, I'm uploading it now, when it's done I'll edit the original post.
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The Ajani art isn't new. It was used for an ad in comic books several months ago.
The idea that this is fake is pretty laughable -- this is clearly something that a ton of effort went into, and bares a strong resemblance to previous WotC promos. The "2013" logo could have been pasted on, but the simplest explanation is that it's legit.
The words Rustle and Rust, in the English language, are not pronounce with a "roo" sound. There'd be 2 "u"s or 2 "o"s in Garruk's name it if were pronounced this way.
I say Gehr-uck. I thought everyone said it that way, it seemed evident from the spelling.
Saying Chandra wrong is stupid, seeing as it's a real name.
On Topic, New Ajani sounds cool. God forbid he's 3cmc. New Bolas too.
I really, really, REAAAALLLLY, want to see Sarkhan back.
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Many of the folks in my local meta say "gah-ROOK" with the OO sound as in ROOT. It makes my ears bleed. I concur with your analysis regarding how it should sound based on spelling.
Chandra is a real name and I haven't encountered anyone who says "SHAN-dra" yet. Then again, I live in a city with a major teaching hospital, so there are plenty of examples. Most even roll the "r" sound a single time in the same way that the Japanese language uses it. Like the Japanese pronounce their word for "dragon", "ryu" (No, not "ree-yu" or "rye-oo")
It's somewhat disappointing if this is anything but a Duels expansion. I certainly can't imagine that an actual M13 product would be leaked so many months out and so few months since the release of M12. I expect this is just a Duels expansion as there are periodic deck releases with this game as opposed to D11.
This is the Rumor Mill, though, so I guess we'll see soon enough!
Its also Ma Na not Man a. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mana
I stopped expecting English speaking Americans to properly enunciate words properly long ago when i starting learning other languages.
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I can't really find an alternate pronounciation for mana.
"Mayne-uh"?
Honestly, it isn't like when people pronounce Garruk wrong, that you don't even know what it is. I bet different people from within WOTC each pronounce the word differently.
Maw-nuh. It's an older pronunciation I think.
Does anyone know if the art of Lilliana with all the zombies and chains has been used anywhere before?
It was to be the cover of the Curse of the Chain Veil before they cancelled it for whatever reason. Personally, I'm hoping it was quality control.
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A set of 5 planeswalkers that are all not the Lorwyn 5, would be um, Elspeth, Tezzeret, Sorin, Koth, and Nissa? I don't know.
That's how I say it D:
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You forgot Ajani.;)
I for one would love a third Ajani incarnation! After all, he is my favorite character from the series.
Ajani is in the lorwyn five though.
They were: garruk, jace, chandra, ajani, liliana.
My take on the non-lorwyn coreset walkers would be:
Elspethv1 (OH GOD MOST OP draft card EVER!), tezzeret v1, koth, a new green walker (green is SERIOUSLY SHAFTED IN WALKERS) and sorin.
Nissa won't work in a new set due to needing a reprint of nissa's chosen - which could be done, but it would make you try to draft elf tribal which wouldn't work usually.
I also think these 5 (assuming a good new green walker) are relatively balanced.
Elspeth is boss, tezz if you pulled artifacts would be amazing, both for tutoring and untapping your creatures/other artifacts, koth would be the perfect red lategame card, and sorin is sorin - 2 damage per turn is nothing to sneeze at.
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Guess that solves our "is it fake" doubts
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just upload it on fileserve. it shouldn't be too big. 40-50MB?
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Yeah, my claim took into account Ajani as well. THe reason why I emphasized Liliana was that her second form could easily be a planeswalker in M13, while Ajani's second form can't. To keep with the pattern, Liliana needs to have a brand new card, just so one of her three forms never made it into a core set, much like the other 4.
The top art of Ajani is also old. It's from an add for MTG Tactics.
Thanks, I'm uploading it now, when it's done I'll edit the original post.
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They could of hired a voice actor, gave him the script, and not told him how to "officially" pronounce Chandra?
This video seems way too legit to be fake over saying a name slightly wrong.