You are incorrect sun titan laughs at hexproofs when this is in the graveyard. Or anything that brings enchantments back from the gy since they aren't cast they don't target they just slip onto a creature.
So what deck are you building that can afford Sun Titan but can't afford better removal than this? Oblivion Ring can do much better for the same 3 mana. Claustrophobia can keep the target from blocking in addition to attacking.
So...my point remains. In the situations you gave where you would be reliably able to use it outside of a single interaction that is highly unlikely to occur without some extremely...questionable...deck building, and which can produce much more damaging effects...it's useless.
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EDH - Thraximundar
ZEN-NPH Standard - Monogreen Lash
SOM-ISD Standard - U/R Curse of Stalked Prey, U/G Self-Mill Aggro
Casual Legacy: Developing - Entomb Filth
This is the only thing that bothers me on boosters so much. You always end up with cards that cannot be possibly used and will eventually end up in the trash can because they are spacing out the better stuff in your box.
This is the only thing that bothers me on boosters so much. You always end up with cards that cannot be possibly used and will eventually end up in the trash can because they are spacing out the better stuff in your box.
Yet when you slap this on a Test Subject at Prerelease and it allows you to win those packs that pull you the "good stuff," you'll always have a great tale to tell and an effection for this waste of a card.
Oh man, A zombie leviathan? Does this card allow us to hope? Can you imagine? Exile 4 creatures from your graveyard for a 4UUU 13/13 trampling zombie leviathan? :DDDDD So much limit shenanies
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I fear I won't have much time to play Magic these days.
I get to watch worlds develop around me.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
This card is silly. I'll play it in limited, since it will effectively lock down one creature, but it's obviously not meant for anything more than that.
Make the creature have 0 power with this, then beguiler of wills will be able to take control of it with even just itself on the field, because it has 0 power.
Make the creature have 0 power with this, then beguiler of wills will be able to take control of it with even just itself on the field, because it has 0 power.
Woot! And then you have a 0 power creature! Pro Strat!
This card is INSANE! It That Betrays is now only a -1/12 that steals two things everytime it attacks! Snapcaster is now a -11/1! Betcha don't want to attack me with that, do ya?
I guess it'd be okay on a phyrexian obliterator. You'd never have to block it.
And, based on the flavor text, this CATCHES FISH! HECK YEAH!
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"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." -Albert Einstein
This card is not unplayable. Its decent removal in the not very often drafted mill deck. So, at least it has its uses.
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
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So what deck are you building that can afford Sun Titan but can't afford better removal than this? Oblivion Ring can do much better for the same 3 mana. Claustrophobia can keep the target from blocking in addition to attacking.
So...my point remains. In the situations you gave where you would be reliably able to use it outside of a single interaction that is highly unlikely to occur without some extremely...questionable...deck building, and which can produce much more damaging effects...it's useless.
EDH - Thraximundar
ZEN-NPH Standard - Monogreen Lash
SOM-ISD Standard - U/R Curse of Stalked Prey, U/G Self-Mill Aggro
Casual Legacy: Developing - Entomb Filth
Shoudln't that have a 5-7-5 syllabic structure?
Saw a new thread
Laughed at card, weeped at comments
Just another day
Saw a new thread is 4.
Maybe "I saw a new thread" instead?
Art has a dead snake
Nothing dies without a twist,
This card disappoint
EDH - Thraximundar
ZEN-NPH Standard - Monogreen Lash
SOM-ISD Standard - U/R Curse of Stalked Prey, U/G Self-Mill Aggro
Casual Legacy: Developing - Entomb Filth
How do you play Lignify in a U EDH?
This has no place in pauper. Sensory Deprivation is 10000X better and it isn't even played.
Lignify is hundreds of times better than this card because it shuts down their abilities too.
Edit to prevent two postings close together: I agree with clock. That much power reduction is crazy funny.
I'm sure you can think of something by yourself.
Yet when you slap this on a Test Subject at Prerelease and it allows you to win those packs that pull you the "good stuff," you'll always have a great tale to tell and an effection for this waste of a card.
It's nifty, but yeah... filler.
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Also solid in limited if your in non-removal colors.
So Pro I have an alpha Volcanic Island
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
Decent in limited, nothing wrong with that.
Turn 2 Two Goblin Guide
AHAHA I can't say that with a straight face. Cute card, but about as useful as Disorient.
Emrakul and BFM
So obviously this shuts down most creatures but they can still block and use them for other means besides attacking which does suck.
I guess you can count Dark Depths also since the token always has a power of 20.
Funny that this thing can't enchant Emrakul though and BFM isn't allowed in tournaments obviously.
Feel free to bid on my cards here!
Make the creature have 0 power with this, then beguiler of wills will be able to take control of it with even just itself on the field, because it has 0 power.
Woot! And then you have a 0 power creature! Pro Strat!
This card is INSANE! It That Betrays is now only a -1/12 that steals two things everytime it attacks! Snapcaster is now a -11/1! Betcha don't want to attack me with that, do ya?
I guess it'd be okay on a phyrexian obliterator. You'd never have to block it.
And, based on the flavor text, this CATCHES FISH! HECK YEAH!
Rules Advisor as of 4/23/10
Regarding Stoneforge Mystic