So the first step to fixing all their wrongs (although they have a long way to go...) is giving GP winners invites to the PT. this is huge, and its a slow but necessary step in the right direction.
Also thats a lot of GP's in different locations! ones in Vancouver!
Good change. Still need a little rebalancing to make playing D2 better than the side events if you don't win though in PWP.
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It's good to see that they recognized the necessity of some link between GP performances and the Pro Tour. I am also making plans to go to GP Vancouver, makes for a great reason to visit the city.
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Going from GPs qualifying 0 players to 1 is good, but going from 16 to 1 is still a bad deal overall. Since there are twice as many GPs, why not cut down the number of invites to 8? Top 8ing a GP is a good accomplishment, it should be rewarded with a PT invite.
On a side note, GP LA in May, w00t! Hopefully it's limited like San Diego.
Thanks wotc for continuing the trend of a GP once every other year in Manila, for us Filipinos its the few times we get to taste intl magic competition
This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
YES! A GP in Minneapolis again! It looks like I will not be quitting until at least June (edit: unless there are more changes to organized play, hopefully being announced in the upcoming weeks before 2012).
Also, a small, small step in the right direction. I'd like to see at least top eight Q for a PT (same amount of people qualifying as before since there were half as many GPs, but t16 made it).
I am pumped for the GPs, hopefully road trips are a possibility even though that will be the around the end of the semester...
Is there a regular format for the spring/summer Grand Prixs? Because I'm really hoping to be able to play 40 cards in Minneapolis at the very least...
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Could somebody copy and paste the announcement here in a spoiler? I can't click the link from where I am. :/
Four continents and ten different countries highlight the premier play schedule for April through August of 2012, featuring the second Pro Tour of the season and thirteen Grand Prix.
The Pro Tour returns to Barcelona for the first time since 2001, when the trophy went to the legendary Kai Budde. Barcelona's Pro Tour featuring the third set in the Innistrad block will be held May 11-13, 2012, and the format will be Innistrad Block Constructed / Booster Draft with a Block Constructed Top 8. The Modern-format Pro Tour Qualifier season for Barcelona begins in late December with in-person and Magic Online events.
The second Pro Tour of the year will continue the expanded live coverage of Pro Tours that will kick off at Pro Tour Dark Ascension in February. Last month's Worlds coverage showcased the increased access to real-time information via the CoverItLive chat platform. That immediate access to information will grow next year as we expand the live webcast to cover all three days of Pro Tour action. The video stream will feature live match coverage, behind-the-scenes interviews with Magic R&D members, deck techs with your favorite players, draft analysis, and much more.
Moving over to the Grand Prix schedule, this section of the year features five events in the United States, three in Europe, and visits to Canada, the Philippines, Japan, Brazil, and China. A full schedule can be seen at the bottom of this page. Formats will be announced in the coming months, so be sure to keep an eye on the Grand Prix information page. Each Grand Prix in 2012 will have a prize payout of $30,000.
As one of the first changes to the 2012 premier play invitation system based on player feedback that we will be announcing over the coming weeks, Grand Prix winners will be awarded an invitation to the next Pro Tour. This change will take effect at Grand Prix Austin in January and correspond with the current Planeswalker Points Competitive Season. Winners of Grand Prix in January through March will earn invitations to the Pro Tour to be held in Barcelona, and winners of Grand Prix from April through August will be invited to the third Pro Tour of the year.
Start your Grand Prix prep by finding a Grand Prix Trial at a Wizards Play Network location near you. Look for Trials for the spring/summer Grand Prix to start by March and get a leg up on your competition with a three-round bye.
Dates and specific locations for the rest of the 2012 Grand Prix schedule will be announced between now and Pro Tour Dark Ascension in February, but we can say that the end-of-the-year slate will include six events in North America, four in Europe, three in the Asia/Pacific region, and one in either Central or South America.
Grand Prix Schedule (April–August)
City Country Dates
Manchester England April 21-22, 2012
Malmo Sweden May 19-20, 2012
Minneapolis USA May 19-20, 2012
Los Angeles USA May 26-27, 2012
Manila Philippines June 16-17, 2012
Yokohama Japan June 23-24, 2012
Vancouver Canada June 23-24, 2012
Atlanta USA June 30-July 1, 2012
São Paulo Brazil July 21-22, 2012
Ghent Belgium July 21-22, 2012
Columbus USA July 21-22, 2012
Shanghai China July 28-29,2012
Boston USA August 25-26, 2012
For Grand Prix in January through March of 2012, see the 2012 Grand Prix schedule.
Fudge. So there's still no realistic incentive to play in a GP. I wish they would crank up the prizes to make it easier for a skilled/practiced player to at least break even. I'm not attracted to tournaments where if your match win rate is ~66% you still lose money on the trip. Oh well, back to mtgo.
Why there is so much disproportion between EU and US GPs.
Till late august in 2012 US has 13 (+1 in Canada and +1 in Mexico) while EU has just 6.. Any particular reason for that?
Wizards is an American company. Makes sense to me.
EDIT: Although I'm biased being American so take that with a grain of salt.
Why there is so much disproportion between EU and US GPs.
Till late august in 2012 US has 13 (+1 in Canada and +1 in Mexico) while EU has just 6.. Any particular reason for that?
If you look at the old elo ratings, you can get a good estimate of the number of players:
Europa: 130276 rated players
North America: 229376 rated players
Beside that, the absolut number for a continent is not that important. For me, it's more important how many GPs are close enough so that I can afford to get to them. I don't know anything about travel costs in america, but I can afford to go to almost every european GP regarding travel time and cost. With the announcement of 6 US GPs and 4 EU GPs in the last 4 month, the ratio will be 19 to 10 which I believe is ok - not really good, but ok.
This comes off sounding like is one of those 'ugly Americanisms.' Landmass seems like a relatively arbitrary basis for this, and it almost certainly is not the measure WotC uses. It seems likely that someone there spent a fair amount of time processing sales data and tournament attendance figures.
I'm sure that someone from South America would chime in and point out how absurd North America getting 6 and Europe getting 3 versus South America getting 1 is if you're working from relative size of landmass.
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So the first step to fixing all their wrongs (although they have a long way to go...) is giving GP winners invites to the PT. this is huge, and its a slow but necessary step in the right direction.
Also thats a lot of GP's in different locations! ones in Vancouver!
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On a side note, GP LA in May, w00t! Hopefully it's limited like San Diego.
http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/1959
Vancouver has had a Grand Prix and hosted Canadian nationals before.
On topic, I like the look of this list. Nice to see the midwest getting some more events.
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A tiny, tiny step in the right direction.
Also, a small, small step in the right direction. I'd like to see at least top eight Q for a PT (same amount of people qualifying as before since there were half as many GPs, but t16 made it).
Is there a regular format for the spring/summer Grand Prixs? Because I'm really hoping to be able to play 40 cards in Minneapolis at the very least...
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Anybody know how this compares to previous GPs?
The Pro Tour returns to Barcelona for the first time since 2001, when the trophy went to the legendary Kai Budde. Barcelona's Pro Tour featuring the third set in the Innistrad block will be held May 11-13, 2012, and the format will be Innistrad Block Constructed / Booster Draft with a Block Constructed Top 8. The Modern-format Pro Tour Qualifier season for Barcelona begins in late December with in-person and Magic Online events.
The second Pro Tour of the year will continue the expanded live coverage of Pro Tours that will kick off at Pro Tour Dark Ascension in February. Last month's Worlds coverage showcased the increased access to real-time information via the CoverItLive chat platform. That immediate access to information will grow next year as we expand the live webcast to cover all three days of Pro Tour action. The video stream will feature live match coverage, behind-the-scenes interviews with Magic R&D members, deck techs with your favorite players, draft analysis, and much more.
Moving over to the Grand Prix schedule, this section of the year features five events in the United States, three in Europe, and visits to Canada, the Philippines, Japan, Brazil, and China. A full schedule can be seen at the bottom of this page. Formats will be announced in the coming months, so be sure to keep an eye on the Grand Prix information page. Each Grand Prix in 2012 will have a prize payout of $30,000.
As one of the first changes to the 2012 premier play invitation system based on player feedback that we will be announcing over the coming weeks, Grand Prix winners will be awarded an invitation to the next Pro Tour. This change will take effect at Grand Prix Austin in January and correspond with the current Planeswalker Points Competitive Season. Winners of Grand Prix in January through March will earn invitations to the Pro Tour to be held in Barcelona, and winners of Grand Prix from April through August will be invited to the third Pro Tour of the year.
Start your Grand Prix prep by finding a Grand Prix Trial at a Wizards Play Network location near you. Look for Trials for the spring/summer Grand Prix to start by March and get a leg up on your competition with a three-round bye.
Dates and specific locations for the rest of the 2012 Grand Prix schedule will be announced between now and Pro Tour Dark Ascension in February, but we can say that the end-of-the-year slate will include six events in North America, four in Europe, three in the Asia/Pacific region, and one in either Central or South America.
Grand Prix Schedule (April–August)
City Country Dates
Manchester England April 21-22, 2012
Malmo Sweden May 19-20, 2012
Minneapolis USA May 19-20, 2012
Los Angeles USA May 26-27, 2012
Manila Philippines June 16-17, 2012
Yokohama Japan June 23-24, 2012
Vancouver Canada June 23-24, 2012
Atlanta USA June 30-July 1, 2012
São Paulo Brazil July 21-22, 2012
Ghent Belgium July 21-22, 2012
Columbus USA July 21-22, 2012
Shanghai China July 28-29,2012
Boston USA August 25-26, 2012
For Grand Prix in January through March of 2012, see the 2012 Grand Prix schedule.
It's the same.
http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/1959
Wizards is an American company. Makes sense to me.
EDIT: Although I'm biased being American so take that with a grain of salt.
Probably not, at least nothing is announced yet. But the winner gets 3500$ price money which should cover the flight cost.
Becasue the US is about twice the size?
Seriously, get over it already. Europe =/= US.
The population of Europe is almost 1 billion... It's probably due to the US making up a bigger part of the total MTG market.
Whoa. The population of Europe is approximately 2.5x the population of the United States.
However, as others have said - American company which makes more of its money selling product to Americans. There's your explanation.
Europa: 130276 rated players
North America: 229376 rated players
Beside that, the absolut number for a continent is not that important. For me, it's more important how many GPs are close enough so that I can afford to get to them. I don't know anything about travel costs in america, but I can afford to go to almost every european GP regarding travel time and cost. With the announcement of 6 US GPs and 4 EU GPs in the last 4 month, the ratio will be 19 to 10 which I believe is ok - not really good, but ok.
This comes off sounding like is one of those 'ugly Americanisms.' Landmass seems like a relatively arbitrary basis for this, and it almost certainly is not the measure WotC uses. It seems likely that someone there spent a fair amount of time processing sales data and tournament attendance figures.
I'm sure that someone from South America would chime in and point out how absurd North America getting 6 and Europe getting 3 versus South America getting 1 is if you're working from relative size of landmass.