If she died, she would be dead (or undead). You don't get your spark back once you're dead.
Seeing as she's still alive and a planeswalker, she didn't die.
And where exactly does that gem of knowledge come from? Also hasn't there been plenty of instances in fiction in general were people become zombies regardless of dead status ie resident evil? Still seems well within reason.
3 of those cards were also in Standard in the last year, sure they're eternal format playable but that doesn't mean they haven't existed in smaller formats at some time. How is this guy better than a card that is already barely played, Furnace Scamp. If Scamp gets in once, it does 4 damage. This guy does 1, then 3 damage before finally netting 6 by turn 4. That is nowhere near fast enough over the first 3 turns especially. Sure it's good if you can keep it unchecked, but it is easily removed and again, very slow.
A Tempered Steel deck can block it, remove it, or simply ignore it and outrace you. Birthing Pod decks have plenty of defensive creatures and go way bigger. It's hard to know what control decks will look like, but there are plenty of efficient removal spells and sweepers to deal with him. I guess you can argue he's good against Puresteel decks...
As I added to my post later, we could get some other Vampires or Mono-Red cards that play very well with him and make him much better. But thinking of him solely with the cards we know will exist in Standard come October, this is hardly an impressive card.
Wow, so many don't see "ALL" of the great humans primed for rotation.
He's also great as was Dervish because you remove everything EXCEPT the Human (Arc Trail ftw!)and just win... he's very impressive and definitely better than Scamp unless you are playing Contested Warzone :p.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
The first guy is meh, the zombie spell is quite interesting. I dont know how to cheat it in to play, but show and tell maybe and maybe dark rituals. I would love to dump all my zombies and have a full field full of zombies!!
And where exactly does that gem of knowledge come from? Also hasn't there been plenty of instances in fiction in general were people become zombies regardless of dead status ie resident evil? Still seems well within reason.
You clearly know nothing about Magic flavor or story, because if you knew one thing, it's that once a planeswalker is dead, that's it. They lose their spark and it's over. Even if they were potentially resurrected somehow, they would not have their spark anymore and just be a normal mortal zombie.
If you realistically think, "ok, when it hits the field it will be 3x the Lacerator in p/t majority of the game." you can assume it's better than it. what about cost though? "one B?!?!? no f!@#ing wey." This is where you should replace those lacerators with a death's shadow.
The first guy is meh, the zombie spell is quite interesting. I dont know how to cheat it in to play, but show and tell maybe and maybe dark rituals. I would love to dump all my zombies and have a full field full of zombies!!
I'm very-very excited about blue zombie enchantment. I like it a lot. I have no words to decribe what I feel. I love the art, mana cost is ok, and the flavour text is excellent - just wow.
About the red vampire: I don't like the art and I'm somehow astonished that it can't be blocked by humans. I did not thought that innistrad is so tribal set. I don't know how powerfull it will be.
The red dude would make a great uncommon. Epic fail as a rare.
The enchantment is "10 for a dollar" bin material out of the gate.
And people need to stop confusing "cliche" with "flavor". The design level of these cards tops out at around 5th grade. Seriously, my junior high D&D dungeonmaster had more creativity than this.
You clearly know nothing about Magic flavor or story, because if you knew one thing, it's that once a planeswalker is dead, that's it. They lose their spark and it's over. Even if they were potentially resurrected somehow, they would not have their spark anymore and just be a normal mortal zombie.
See: Every planeswalker who has ever died.
The only thing about when a walker dies is that they're dead, there's never been anything referring to their spark going away. And as far as it stands right now, the lore is pointing in my favor, Jeska became undead when she became phage, as she's now a zombie, but when she became Jeska again she still had her spark. So if anything this would be the example where the spark remains.
Has a walker ever been brought back as a zombie? Do you actually have this precedence to use as an example?
You also completely ignored my example that people don't have to die in the first place to become a zombie, kinda super relevant dont you think? Next time lets NOT ignore that little fact.
LoL any example of walker dying would be irrelevant unless they were revived. If they were dead how would they be able to utilize their spark? Are they supposed to able to use it while they sleep as well?
So I guess all the people hating on the vamp never played with Slith Firewalker? Sure, the slith had that thing where he could come off turn 1 out of a Chrome Mox. But all the other times he was quite serviceable. This guy has pseudo evation to make up a bit for it.
Also, for those wondering, Frankenstein's monster was a flesh golem.
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
You clearly know nothing about Magic flavor or story, because if you knew one thing, it's that once a planeswalker is dead, that's it. They lose their spark and it's over. Even if they were potentially resurrected somehow, they would not have their spark anymore and just be a normal mortal zombie.
See: Every planeswalker who has ever died.
Doug Beyer commented on this. He said that it's exceedingly unlikely for a Planeswalker to retain the spark after death, but anything is possible.
Stromkirk is so much more relevant as a 1 drop in RDW / Boros than an actual Vamps deck. A good enough replacement to Goblin Guide since it creates all kinds of pressure on it's own don't underestimate this guy he's very good
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Wooo I'm so good at reading.
I was getting it mixed up with Blazing Torch, and somehow zombies became werewolves.
I promise I'm literate :S
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Wow, so many don't see "ALL" of the great humans primed for rotation.
He's also great as was Dervish because you remove everything EXCEPT the Human (Arc Trail ftw!)and just win... he's very impressive and definitely better than Scamp unless you are playing Contested Warzone :p.
because why the **** is phage a zombie!
Ok, I'm doing it myself. Imba gimpskills incoming!
Unless you were expecting bombs among the lands, less than 1/4 the sets been spoiled.
You clearly know nothing about Magic flavor or story, because if you knew one thing, it's that once a planeswalker is dead, that's it. They lose their spark and it's over. Even if they were potentially resurrected somehow, they would not have their spark anymore and just be a normal mortal zombie.
See: Every planeswalker who has ever died.
Frankenstein's Monster has already been printed and received errata to be a Zombie years ago.
Fantastic. Begging to be printed out and stuck on
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I thought this plains was gonna be so much better than the last set's! WTF wotc, give me some decent cards for once
About the red vampire: I don't like the art and I'm somehow astonished that it can't be blocked by humans. I did not thought that innistrad is so tribal set. I don't know how powerfull it will be.
The enchantment is "10 for a dollar" bin material out of the gate.
And people need to stop confusing "cliche" with "flavor". The design level of these cards tops out at around 5th grade. Seriously, my junior high D&D dungeonmaster had more creativity than this.
Has a walker ever been brought back as a zombie? Do you actually have this precedence to use as an example?
You also completely ignored my example that people don't have to die in the first place to become a zombie, kinda super relevant dont you think? Next time lets NOT ignore that little fact.
LoL any example of walker dying would be irrelevant unless they were revived. If they were dead how would they be able to utilize their spark? Are they supposed to able to use it while they sleep as well?
EDIT: Arent vampires also considered to undead?
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Also, for those wondering, Frankenstein's monster was a flesh golem.
Um... Have you ever looked at the variety of zombies in Magic?
There's a lot that don't deal with reanimation. Hell, the first two zombies in Magic didn't have anything to do with reanimation.
Doug Beyer commented on this. He said that it's exceedingly unlikely for a Planeswalker to retain the spark after death, but anything is possible.
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The Noble could be alright, but it feels like he gets so much worse when you're on the draw.
We've just been completely spoiled by Goblin Guide for too long.
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