MTG Salvation

Sewer Nemesis 3B
Creature - Horror (R)
As Sewer Nemesis enters the battlefield, choose a player.
Sewer Nemesis's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in that player's graveyard.
Whenever the chosen player casts a spell, that player puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
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Sweet card! Where is the source for it though?

Neat ability, where did this info come from?

That will fit well along side my Hermit Druid.

So it is a tiny, worse vulturous zombie?

Anyone who chooses an opponent with this deserves to eat a Beacon of Unrest-ed Akroma.

Seriously, this thing's best use is filling your graveyard.

A mini lame Lord of Extinction. Meh

So, who wants to play this in Dredge? It doesn't say "opponent"...

There's no way this isn't in the same deck as Karador.

The mothership spoiler:

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/commander/cig

This card seems too mean. While it might go well with Geth, I don't plan on using him.

You can target yourself right?

Quote from Thundermare

A mini lame Lord of Extinction. Meh

i think you're forgetting that it mills them when they cast a spell.....

Kresh loves this guy. I see more reanimation + greater good shenegains on the horizon.

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i think you're forgetting that it mills them when they cast a spell.....

That's not exactly something you want to do in Commander.

Emokore: should be able to, it says choose a player, and you're a player in that game.

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That's not exactly something you want to do in Commander.

Unless you're playing Geth, Wrexial, or Teneb, or if you're playing Karador (you can choose yourself).

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i think you're forgetting that it mills them when they cast a spell.....

So what? Mill is a slow, SLOW strategy in Commander. Plus lots of decks either run with their graveyard as a powerful resource or the run graveyard hate.

Quote from Thundermare

So what? Mill is a slow, SLOW strategy in Commander. Plus lots of decks either run with their graveyard as a powerful resource or the run graveyard hate.

no, not that it mills them dead; it mills them or yourself so you can combo off while at the same time, making this dude bigger. I like it. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX PEOPLE!!

Milling opponents is bad in commander unless it exiles or you're playing a general like the ones Luminum Can mentioned.

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Unless you're playing Geth, Wrexial, or Teneb, or if you're playing Karador (you can choose yourself).

Oh, you certainly want to choose yourself a lot. But the only time you'll be choosing an opponent is when you're playing cards like Geth that can abuse the graveyard better than they can.

I can't get exited about this card, even if you can target yourself.
Lord of Extinction already exists. I kinda feel like it might have been better if EVERY new creature was a legend.

Do people really try to mill in EDH?

Interesting. Sorta reminds me of what tarmogoyf shoulda been for some reason or something..

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I can't get exited about this card, even if you can target yourself.
Lord of Extinction already exists. I kinda feel like it might have been better if EVERY new creature was a legend.

Do people really try to mill in EDH?

I'm pretty sure this guy is not intended for mill decks. He's clearly designed for things like Wrexial, Geth, Karador, Dralnu etc.

I just realized this puts Dredge cards in the graveyard before the Dredge effect happens. That's just evil.

Also, does anyone else think the art looks like a cheap early 80's Doctor Who monster?

EDIT: Oh God, this thing is sick with Yawgmoth's Will. Like, REALLY sick.

EDIT: I have to read the cards again. Yawgy's will doesn't let things be put into a graveyard.

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Do people really try to mill in EDH?

i believe you're missing the point. yes, it's nearly futile to name an opponent and expect this guy to do anything positive for you. but as was mentioned, this is likely in Karador's deck, meaning you name yourself and fill your graveyard, making your general cheaper, this guy bigger, and then play your creatures out of your 'yard due to Karador's ability (or reanimate them).

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Do people really try to mill in EDH?

I mill all the time. I try to mill at least half my own deck into my graveyard.