Listening to the Hardcast (http://www.mtgcast.com/?p=9909), Tristan reported a lot of D12 cards that are new, which presumably are in M12. Most of these are commons, and I didn't catch all of them first pass, so I'll listen to it again and edit (Now edited with more information).
(Note: D12 coverage starts at 21:00, M12 spoilers start at 23:50)
Notable cards:
Bloodthirst is primarily in black, some in red and even less in green (2 green Bloodthirst cards)
Lots of black Bloodthirst cards:
-1/1 Bat, Flying Bloodthirst 1 (no cost known)
-2B, 3/1 Vampire, Bloodthirst 1
-4 mana, 2/2 Vampire, Lifelink, Bloodthirst 2 Vicious Hunger might be back? (Duels likes to use reprints though)
Illusory Bear (as mentioned before)
Functional reprint of Goldmeadow Harrier, still a soldier
B, 1/1 Spirit, unblockable and can't block (like Inkfathom Infiltrator)
I hope that there will be something to support Vampire tribal, considering that Sorin is the planeswalker in M12. In any case, from the look of Innistrad... it wouldn't really be much of a surprise if the plane is populated by vampires.
_~;6794184']I hope that there will be something to support Vampire tribal, considering that Sorin is the planeswalker in M12. In any case, from the look of Innistrad... it wouldn't really be much of a surprise if the plane is populated by vampires.
We've only got one image and a tag line to go on. For all we know the portrait could just have been 'taken' on a gloomy day and the world could be populated by Pegasus's, squid-folk, and bear people who sing songs about friendship and ride rainbow rafts of chocolate.
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Bloodthirst in black just makes sense. The bat probably costs 1B with those stats, but of course that can't be confirmed yet.
Interesting to see black get a new "unblockable, can't block" creature. I've never been completely sold on it, but I suppose this shows it's here to stay.
We've only got one image and a tag line to go on. For all we know the portrait could just have been 'taken' on a gloomy day and the world could be populated by Pegasus's, squid-folk, and bear people who sing songs about friendship and ride rainbow rafts of chocolate.
And what would WotC's motives be, behind that?
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
So Green's only getting two cards in M12 with blood thirst or where only two green cards with bloodthirst shown?
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Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block. "Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
We've only got one image and a tag line to go on. For all we know the portrait could just have been 'taken' on a gloomy day and the world could be populated by Pegasus's, squid-folk, and bear people who sing songs about friendship and ride rainbow rafts of chocolate.
If WOTC ever makes a set like this, I would *seriously* pre-order a case in Japanese, Chinese, and English.
That 4 mana bloodthirst lifelink might be a vamp tied to sorin, just like we have Gideon's Avenger and Chandra's Phoenix.
Doubtful. The other two cards are rare cards, with splashy abilities tied to their planeswalker.
That vampire is loosely tied to Sorin via bloodthirst (very loosely), is a lot less rare-worthy (splashiness), and doesn't benefit from Sorin if you play it before Sorin comes down (the other two always work well with their walker).
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
This might be awesome if there's a lot of good Bloodthirst cards. It makes me think of Nightshade Stinger being used to enable Prowl, but this new tiny ghost is even better.
This might be awesome if there's a lot of good Bloodthirst cards. It makes me think of Nightshade Stinger being used to enable Prowl, but this new tiny ghost is even better.
Also, hard to scoff at cheap unblockable critters because there is almost always good equipment in core for limited.
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
Doubtful. The other two cards are rare cards, with splashy abilities tied to their planeswalker.
That vampire is loosely tied to Sorin via bloodthirst (very loosely), is a lot less rare-worthy (splashiness), and doesn't benefit from Sorin if you play it before Sorin comes down (the other two always work well with their walker).
There may not just be the rares associated with their planeswalkers. We may continue to have commons and uncommons as well. Though I'm doubtful that a Planeswalker's X would use a mechanic that's around just for this one set.
ok, i may be misunderstanding something, but does that 1/1 bat with bloodthirst 1 cost nothing? like 0? maybe it's something like Evermind or the Pacts?
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ok, i may be misunderstanding something, but does that 1/1 bat with bloodthirst 1 cost nothing? like 0? maybe it's something like Evermind or the Pacts?
in a format with good cheep equipment that 1/1 might see some play, put a sword on it for lols or a lashwrite for a minimum of a 5/5 unblockable...or both
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This is pretty darn off-topic, but does anyone think the announcer chick in the beginning of hardcast is over-the-top trying to be sexy? Does anyone know who that is? It's just kind of a cheesy intro to me...
On topic, bloodthirst is cool, gonna be sad to see scry go...
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so I'll listen to it again and edit(Now edited with more information).(Note: D12 coverage starts at 21:00, M12 spoilers start at 23:50)
Notable cards:
Bloodthirst is primarily in black, some in red and even less in green (2 green Bloodthirst cards)
Lots of black Bloodthirst cards:
-1/1 Bat, Flying Bloodthirst 1 (no cost known)
-2B, 3/1 Vampire, Bloodthirst 1
-4 mana, 2/2 Vampire, Lifelink, Bloodthirst 2
Vicious Hunger might be back? (Duels likes to use reprints though)
Illusory Bear (as mentioned before)
Functional reprint of Goldmeadow Harrier, still a soldier
B, 1/1 Spirit, unblockable and can't block (like Inkfathom Infiltrator)
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
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I hope that there will be something to support Vampire tribal, considering that Sorin is the planeswalker in M12. In any case, from the look of Innistrad... it wouldn't really be much of a surprise if the plane is populated by vampires.
We've only got one image and a tag line to go on. For all we know the portrait could just have been 'taken' on a gloomy day and the world could be populated by Pegasus's, squid-folk, and bear people who sing songs about friendship and ride rainbow rafts of chocolate.
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
Interesting to see black get a new "unblockable, can't block" creature. I've never been completely sold on it, but I suppose this shows it's here to stay.
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And what would WotC's motives be, behind that?
This is mtgsalvation silly talk as we all know it best.
Rules Advisor as of 4/23/10
Regarding Stoneforge Mystic
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
If WOTC ever makes a set like this, I would *seriously* pre-order a case in Japanese, Chinese, and English.
Win-shmin. I play Magic to escape.
Doubtful. The other two cards are rare cards, with splashy abilities tied to their planeswalker.
That vampire is loosely tied to Sorin via bloodthirst (very loosely), is a lot less rare-worthy (splashiness), and doesn't benefit from Sorin if you play it before Sorin comes down (the other two always work well with their walker).
Rules Advisor as of 4/23/10
Regarding Stoneforge Mystic
This might be awesome if there's a lot of good Bloodthirst cards. It makes me think of Nightshade Stinger being used to enable Prowl, but this new tiny ghost is even better.
Also, hard to scoff at cheap unblockable critters because there is almost always good equipment in core for limited.
Rules Advisor as of 4/23/10
Regarding Stoneforge Mystic
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There may not just be the rares associated with their planeswalkers. We may continue to have commons and uncommons as well. Though I'm doubtful that a Planeswalker's X would use a mechanic that's around just for this one set.
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It means we don't know the mana cost.
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As asked before, do we know if green is getting ONLY two bloodthirst, or only two were previewed?
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G Seshiro, the Appointed G
B// Vaevictus Asmadi - "I'm 'exy and I know it" B//
W// Treva, The Renewerer W//
B/ Rakdos, Lord of Grouphate B/
W//// Cromat the Charmer W////
On topic, bloodthirst is cool, gonna be sad to see scry go...