This is super underwhelming. If it was an instant, it would be more on par with the rest of the cycle, IMO.
So for 2WWW in standard you can make 6 1/1s or 2 2/2s.
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Was just saying this to my brother =/
However because it is reusable, perhaps it might see play. I can't tell you the number of times I would cast Conqueror's Pledge only to have it counterspelled.
However because it is reusable, perhaps it might see play. I can't tell you the number of times I would cast Conqueror's Pledge only to have it counterspelled.
If the zenith is countered, it doesn't get shuffled in.
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How about "You may discard your hand, pay 5 life, rip this card, remove 3 digits from any number of target fingers you control, and concede at the end of the next end step rather than pay It Will Go Through!!'s mana cost.
How about "You may discard your hand, pay 5 life, rip this card, remove 3 digits from any number of target fingers you control, and concede at the end of the next end step rather than pay It Will Go Through!!'s mana cost.
I feel so sorry for white, despite the fact that this is arguably the worst of the five, (my vote's for blue), it still gets praise purely because we expect white cards in cycles to be consistantly awful... See what you've done Wizards? Though i remember the far off days of white being almost universally considered to be the most powerful colour due to it's diverse cardpool... Wait that was last year. Right. Moving on.
i would argue that this is maybe the third best of the cycle, but i dont think that means much.
the Green one is the only one i think that will see constructed play in competitive play, it is BY FAR the best in the cycle
maybe the blue or red one could be used for some infinite mana combo
black might be used as weenie sweeper but its not great,
maybe white could be used in some sort of g/w ramp deck as 1 of
overall, the cycle besides the green one wasnt that great
Here's a solid EDH Token maker for White. It sure won't be replacing Decree of Justice, but maybe Nomad Assembly. I really wish it were an instant, but that might have been a little too much.
How about "You may discard your hand, pay 5 life, rip this card, remove 3 digits from any number of target fingers you control, and concede at the end of the next end step rather than pay It Will Go Through!!'s mana cost.
This is super underwhelming. If it was an instant, it would be more on par with the rest of the cycle, IMO.
So for 2WWW in standard you can make 6 1/1s or 2 2/2s.
HRMMMMM.
the person who gave me this information said it could be instant, but "it" wasn't sure of it. so don't give up your hopes yet.
Without white having access to a faster mana base I'm not seeing this
Card as very useful. It doesnt really pay off
Until the 6cc spot (a 2/2 for 4...no way, but 3 for 6 is alright)
Might be able to do something in a WG
Ramp.
Also am I the only one missing the red firecat cats?
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How about "You may discard your hand, pay 5 life, rip this card, remove 3 digits from any number of target fingers you control, and concede at the end of the next end step rather than pay It Will Go Through!!'s mana cost.
I'd rather have it be an instant, offer damage prevention, and make tokens in its wake. Now THAT would be worth the cost to pull it off. With all the poison counters going on, damage prevention is just as powerful as a spell that lets you take another turn. (un)Fortunately, it's few and far in between.
Handy that's a reuseable token swarm maker. Maybe that's how the Mirran side fights back: swarming.
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Recent discussions here and elsewhere have made it clear that there seems to be a group of players who consider blue and control synonymous, as if they somehow started playing a game with four identical and "bad" colors that do nothing interesting because they just "turn men sideways" and then true, glorious blue, the only thinking person's color.
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Marath, Will of the Wild
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Probably nerfed in playtesting. It kind of sucks that so many of the other zeniths create card advantage. I like it anyway, but it's weak compared to all the other ones. Especially the green one.
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It is not too impressive, but the fact it makes 2/2 tokens does it give it some inherent playability over most other mass token producers. If its an Instant its cost is justified; if its not, it probably could have cost XWW, but that might have made it too potent in Limited? Hard to tell. Definitely not the best in the cycle, but a lot more interesting than a life gain spell (which is what it could have been easily enough).
The funny part about this is that it actually goes along with SoFaF (I love that name...). I really like this card in Boros as a two of to give you lategame gass. Swing in with your Squak, untap your land and get like 3-4 2/2. Well, the red one would probably work better in Boros. At that point of the game you just need a few points of damage to do the rest.
If this is instant, it gets even better. With the SoFaF trigger on the stack, you can tap everything and float the mana until the second ability resolves, netting you some extra cats.
Was just saying this to my brother =/
However because it is reusable, perhaps it might see play. I can't tell you the number of times I would cast Conqueror's Pledge only to have it counterspelled.
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True, but reusable is always good.
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To be fair, the likelyhood of ever seeing it again in your average game is incredibly low. May as well not be reusable.
cat tokens are in Scars. All previous sets have used tokens from the large set of the block.
i would argue that this is maybe the third best of the cycle, but i dont think that means much.
the Green one is the only one i think that will see constructed play in competitive play, it is BY FAR the best in the cycle
maybe the blue or red one could be used for some infinite mana combo
black might be used as weenie sweeper but its not great,
maybe white could be used in some sort of g/w ramp deck as 1 of
overall, the cycle besides the green one wasnt that great
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^ This. But, I'm glad some shenanigans like Beacon of Creation and the previous cycle aren't back, even if the cycle is weak.
the person who gave me this information said it could be instant, but "it" wasn't sure of it. so don't give up your hopes yet.
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Card as very useful. It doesnt really pay off
Until the 6cc spot (a 2/2 for 4...no way, but 3 for 6 is alright)
Might be able to do something in a WG
Ramp.
Also am I the only one missing the red firecat cats?
BEtched Champion/InfectB
WSoilders/knightsW
WUVenser SplicerWU
RRDWR
GFeed the Pack comboG
WUPool of ExhaustionWU
EDH
GEzuri, Elf OverrunG
BGeth, GraverobberB
UThada Adel, ThiefU
RUrabrask, Big RedR
WElesh Norn, CrusadeW
WUGAngus Makenzie, Bant ControlWUG
Extended
WGElvesWG
Legacy
RGoblinsR
UBGFariesUBG
UBGRaffinityUBG
Handy that's a reuseable token swarm maker. Maybe that's how the Mirran side fights back: swarming.
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Marath, Will of the Wild
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Also, incredible in EDH if it's instant speed.
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If this is instant, it gets even better. With the SoFaF trigger on the stack, you can tap everything and float the mana until the second ability resolves, netting you some extra cats.
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Do something cool.
Infect.
or something? I could see it happening.
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