Buying these just for the box was never a cost effective practice.
Then-
$35 cost
6 packs: valued at $4 each $24
1 dice: $5 avg ebay value
1 book: worthless, ok maybe $5
2 boxes: 35-24-5-5=1, so $0.5 each for the boxes
Now-
$35 cost
8 packs: valued at $4 each $32
1 dice: $5 avg ebay value
1 book intro: worthless
1 boxes: 35-32-5=-2, so $-2 for the box
So we get an overall better value now, unless you don't need magic cards. If you did not read the book before the value is even better now.
I don't know where you're buying, but I used to always get my fatpacks for $30. I haven't bought one since the change was made, so I can't comment on that.
Also, eBay prices aside, there is no way you get to count the die/life counter as $5. It's a little piece of plastic that is completely replaceable, and similar dice can be bought easily for less than $1 at any gaming store. And many people would argue with you about the book being "worthless"; on their own, the books cost $8-10. (The sample chapter/intro is indeed worthless, however.)
Actually the dice is not worthless, just try and find authentic die from MtG (with the expansion symbols replacing the 20) and you'll see, a simple 20 sided die yes, but one with the symbol no. I am collecting them, they only come in Fat Packs, therefore they are rare. So I'd pay good money for one of them. I paid $4 for a FtV: Dragons die not long ago.
Buying these just for the box was never a cost effective practice.
Then-
$35 cost
6 packs: valued at $4 each $24
1 dice: $5 avg ebay value
1 book: worthless, ok maybe $5
2 boxes: 35-24-5-5=1, so $0.5 each for the boxes
Now-
$35 cost
8 packs: valued at $4 each $32
1 dice: $5 avg ebay value
1 book intro: worthless
1 boxes: 35-32-5=-2, so $-2 for the box
So we get an overall better value now, unless you don't need magic cards. If you did not read the book before the value is even better now.
I know the boxes themselves werent worth that much, and that's why it was nice to get at least two pretty card holders instead of just one now. And I actually did read the mtg books when they came in fat packs, cuz Im not gonna go out and buy em lol. Fat packs made getting the books worthwhile to me. I agree that the value itself is better now, but I liked it the other way because of the things that took the place of the two extra boosters now.
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Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
:symr::symg::symw: Mayael the Anima :symr::symg::symw:
Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
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I think this means Tezzert is going to be either in M11 or Scars.
Not that it's a complete shock to anyone. It is the Alara art, so maybe M11 replacing Jace?
I saw the Tezerret image and said to myself "yep, someone's going to be claiming it means he's confirmed."
It's the art used for the promo novel piece, that's all.
Putting Tezzeret in M11 would be an incredibly stupid idea. The core set traditionally doesn't have enough decent artifacts to make the card worthwhile.
My guess for M11 planeswalkers:
White - Ajani out for Elspeth (keeping in flavor with the soldier theme of white)
Blue - Jace v. 1 stays in
Black - Lilliana possibly out for Sorin
Green - Garruk out for a new planeswalker
Red - Chandra Nelar out for Chandra Ablaze
Box is nice looking. Definitely will get at least one. Unlike that crappy ROE one that has prevented me from getting more than one ROE fat pack. Everytime I look at that thing...I resent it.
I think Tezzeret could be in M11. I mean, who really thinks people will play him only with other M11 cards? Inside M10, all of the lords sucked. But they're still good cards.
mehhh I plan on buying just packs. the dice is nice to have but Ive got enough, the sample chapter my friend will have, I'll just read it. the box is cool. But hey. I have a billion white boxes, and I'lll get 9 packs instead of 8... lol
But really. if you want the box and dice as well as the 8 packs, it really is a good deal
Also. we keep forgetting to mention the 40 lands! there is value in that too!
That art might be liliana though. We know she is using demons' gifts to retain her age and we know she is really old. What if she lost those powers and the art is her in old form?
That art might be liliana though. We know she is using demons' gifts to retain her age and we know she is really old. What if she lost those powers and the art is her in old form?
eh sorry. new play matts announced. One is lilianna looking normal. that pretty much says a straight no. well as straight as were ganna get for now...
Having Tezz in M11 is so Stupid. It's too limited to be in a core set. Tezz only works with artifacts. The Core Set is for NEW player trying to learn how to play the game, Jace is a much better choice over Tezzeret
Having Tezz in M11 is so Stupid. It's too limited to be in a core set. Tezz only works with artifacts. The Core Set is for NEW player trying to learn how to play the game, Jace is a much better choice over Tezzeret
...Tezz WILL NOT be in M11. If he is, I'll leave the board for good. It's just a novel sample.
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I don't know where you're buying, but I used to always get my fatpacks for $30. I haven't bought one since the change was made, so I can't comment on that.
Also, eBay prices aside, there is no way you get to count the die/life counter as $5. It's a little piece of plastic that is completely replaceable, and similar dice can be bought easily for less than $1 at any gaming store. And many people would argue with you about the book being "worthless"; on their own, the books cost $8-10. (The sample chapter/intro is indeed worthless, however.)
I know the boxes themselves werent worth that much, and that's why it was nice to get at least two pretty card holders instead of just one now. And I actually did read the mtg books when they came in fat packs, cuz Im not gonna go out and buy em lol. Fat packs made getting the books worthwhile to me. I agree that the value itself is better now, but I liked it the other way because of the things that took the place of the two extra boosters now.
EDH Decks
:symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: Reaper King :symw::symu::symb::symr::symg:
Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
:symr::symg::symw: Mayael the Anima :symr::symg::symw:
Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
:symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: Horde of Notions :symw::symu::symb::symr::symg:
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I saw the Tezerret image and said to myself "yep, someone's going to be claiming it means he's confirmed."
It's the art used for the promo novel piece, that's all.
Putting Tezzeret in M11 would be an incredibly stupid idea. The core set traditionally doesn't have enough decent artifacts to make the card worthwhile.
My guess for M11 planeswalkers:
White - Ajani out for Elspeth (keeping in flavor with the soldier theme of white)
Blue - Jace v. 1 stays in
Black - Lilliana possibly out for Sorin
Green - Garruk out for a new planeswalker
Red - Chandra Nelar out for Chandra Ablaze
Commander:
R Daretti, Scrap Savant
BR Olivia Voldaren
BRG Shattergang Brothers
GUR Riku of Two Reflections
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain
But really. if you want the box and dice as well as the 8 packs, it really is a good deal
Also. we keep forgetting to mention the 40 lands! there is value in that too!
No. Just, no. A new version of Liliana would absolutely at least LOOK LIKE HER AND HAVE SKIN. And most likely be her wearing the Chain Veil.
Seriously, that is the most ridiculous piece of speculation I've seen since someone wrote "I think Tezzeret is Karn."
R Citizen Cane (Feldon of the Third Path)
eh sorry. new play matts announced. One is lilianna looking normal. that pretty much says a straight no. well as straight as were ganna get for now...
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RUGRiku of Two ReflectionsRUG
...Tezz WILL NOT be in M11. If he is, I'll leave the board for good. It's just a novel sample.