I feel like Extractor Demon should let the person entomb cards, not just mill. I'm sure it doesn't, but it should.
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Esperzoa makes me very, very happy that Evoke critters weren't artifacts! Some solid stuff. I would say Conflux is shaoping up to be better than ALA by yards!
If extractor demon is a card that can infinite mill possibly like grindstone but with creatures it would be sick. Imagine using one memory sluice of someone and having them mill 3 creatures which results in another 6 cards being milled it would be amazing though I doubt that wizards would do that.
Esperzoa is so amazing I mean a lot of synergy with that and yeah comboing it with sanctum gargoyle is amazing just imagine getting back a courier capsule every turn because you keep casting the gargoyle and recurring it or executioner's capsule for a lot of removal just amazing thank god it's uncommon
I feel like Extractor Demon should let the person entomb cards, not just mill. I'm sure it doesn't, but it should.
That would easily be broken, fetching Demigods of Revenge or more copies of the Extractor demon itself. Though granted, the ability feels like it could have been more powerful. I don't think milling 3 or 4 cards for a cost that isn't that easy to meet would have been broken, specially for a card this expensive.
Esperzoa is SICK. In addition to it being the best Stampeding Wilderbeasts ever, it's 4/3 body can handle most fairy crap, and Sowering it is kinda pointless. 5C Control doesn't like cheap beaters, especially ones it can't chump with Finks. Elsewhere Flask is a great CA engine suddenly, especially with Sculptor on the board. 2 makes it a FREE card every turn. Huge boost to artifact decks, another card or 2 and Artifact aggro could be viable.
And this is just with Standard Artifacts, Extended, Legacy anyone? Bouncing artifact lands/the aforementioned Tangle Wire just seems silly...
Giltspire guy looks pretty dumb. So far most of the Exalted creatures seem to have gotten it more or less for "free", that is to say without a major punch to either their casting cost or their p/t... And honestly I've begun to grow really unfond of just about any 3cc+ guy in Exalted.dec since you really want to be able to counter their board sweeper and that's hard to do if you're trying to curve out all the time. So if I'm going to play a 3cc guy it should be at least as solid as a War Monk, and I doubt this guy'll be as solid as all that.
EDIT - Oh yeah and if you're into Empyrial Archangel, this is NOT a combo. Great jorb guys, two noncompetitive rares in the same colors in the same set that don't even play well with each other
Esperzoa: The first thing I thought, before I even saw the abilities, was "Like Espa Roba from Yu-Gi-Oh?" I had a good laugh. Anyway, this cheap flying beater is nuts. Get yours today!
Demon Dude: 5/5 flyers for 6 are playable in limited, so a 5/5 for 6 with two nifty abilities is gravy on a delicious stick.
Giltspire Grape: This guy will cause stalemates until the opponent makes it go away. I'm not so sure about the green and blue in the cost.
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Wow. Esperzoa could almost be constructed playable if the drawback of having multiples in play wasn't a little too difficult to handle. I hope it comes along with a few extra CIP artifacts; Tidehollow Sculler and Sanctum Gargoyle are nice, but something with a bit more directy synergy would be awesome. As for Extended, I'd love to play this thing along with Pentad Prism, Duplicant and a few other Mirrodin gems.
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Wow. Esperzoa could almost be constructed playable if the drawback of having multiples in play wasn't a little too difficult to handle. I hope it comes along with a few extra CIP artifacts; Tidehollow Sculler and Sanctum Gargoyle are nice, but something with a bit more directy synergy would be awesome. As for Extended, I'd love to play this thing along with Pentad Prism, Duplicant and a few other Mirrodin gems.
As I figured, Esper is going to get much more support as the rest of the block is filled out.
There could always be more juice in Conflux to fuel the beater.
Loving the flier, the demon is a nice finisher in drafts, and a great Corpse Conneiusseur target.
The exalted guy is cute. I like him enough.
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That's true, but it prevents card loss and instead creates tempo loss...
I still feel that a 4/3 flying creature for 2U is way above the curve for blue. Seriously...Sea Drake?
I second that. I can't believe a few tried to downplay this cards power level/significance. If the rarity is uncommon, which most here don't doubt and the OP has shown himself to be honorable anyways, then wow! It looks like we have TWO power uncommons right off the bat.
It's still too way early to tell if it could replace Sea Drake in the 3 spot as some have suggested here already. But what if does? Does wizards want to fix their earlier "mistake" of legalizing the Portal sets and almost immediately adding new members to the Royal Family?
I always thought StP should have been seriously retried to give newer formats access to such a useful tool, but I seriously didn't think they could do it. Ditto for dual lands.
If Esperzoa is actually uncommon that'd be pretty awesome. Seems like a fun card, as mentioned it combos with Sanctum Gargoyle. I guess you could also try it with Elsewhere Flask to draw lots of cards.
OR IF YOU'RE FEELING EXTRA AWESOME, USE IT WITH REAPER KING and another Scarecrow I guess...
In Legacy this thing can be ridiculous plenty of 0 mana artifacts to return that basically give you no drawback.
It might even find a home in Affinity since that deck easily has other artifacts it would rather return.
Crap its a major advantage in Vintage where you can bounce your mox sapphire during your upkeep, and tap it for mana first then play it again in your main phase.
Esperzoa2U
Artifact creature - jelyfish (U)
flying
at the bigining of your upkeep,return a artifact you control.
4/3
Extractor Demon4BB
Creature - Demon (R)
Flying
Whenever another creature put into graveyard, you may have"target player put two cards into garveyard from library."
Unearth 2B
5/5
Giltspire AvengerWUG
Creature - human soldier (R)
Exalted
:symtap::destroy target creature that dealt damege to you this turn.
2/2
Cleaning this up a bit, I'd assume the following:
Esperzoa2U
Artifact Creature - Jellyfish (U)
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, return an artifact you control to its owner's hand.
4/3
Extractor Demon4BB
Creature - Demon (R)
Flying
Whenever another creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may have target player put the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Unearth 2B
5/5
Giltspire AvengerWUG
Creature - Human Soldier (R)
Exalted
:symtap:: Destroy target creature that dealt damage to you this turn.
2/2
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OK, first off, thanks for the spoiler. But I think the problem here is the fact that with translations is that sometimes meaning are lost.
The Demon may actually say when even a creature card goes to the graveyard, Remember Prince of Thralls?, it says the same thing, When ever a permanent goes the to grave yard you get it or your opponent loses 3 life. The card did not have to be in play, it could have been milled, discarded, countered or destroyed, as long as it goes to the grave yard. True. That would make this card broken, but it costs 6 as well, and anyone who plays mill style decks knows that 6 mana is a lot. Of course a Traumatize following this would win you the game , but with 5CC and White weenie running the show around here, it's easy to guess that the wording is right on this guy.
As for the Jellyfish, humm, not a huge fan, it may work well in a Artifact control style deck, but I see it's ability not shining in standered to much. Limited great card as well as legacy or casual but not standered.
Same goes for the selective Dread. Exaulted is great in Limited, but the ill creatures that hit you frist ablitiy doesn't really fly to well. You have stuff like Enphrical Arkangel that has shroud and well it your getting swarmed one creature is not going to matter as much. But it could be intresting.
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I totally second the earlier post that mentioned Elsewhere Flask.
Personally, I'm thinking Etherium sculptor, Esperozoa and Elsewhere Flask are going to be a very happy draw engine for me.
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Esperzoa is so amazing I mean a lot of synergy with that and yeah comboing it with sanctum gargoyle is amazing just imagine getting back a courier capsule every turn because you keep casting the gargoyle and recurring it or executioner's capsule for a lot of removal just amazing thank god it's uncommon
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The demon is a nice card but somehow his mill ability seems like tacked on.
The Avenger is not UG, apart from that certanly interesting.
And this is just with Standard Artifacts, Extended, Legacy anyone? Bouncing artifact lands/the aforementioned Tangle Wire just seems silly...
EDIT - Oh yeah and if you're into Empyrial Archangel, this is NOT a combo. Great jorb guys, two noncompetitive rares in the same colors in the same set that don't even play well with each other
Demon Dude: 5/5 flyers for 6 are playable in limited, so a 5/5 for 6 with two nifty abilities is gravy on a delicious stick.
Giltspire Grape: This guy will cause stalemates until the opponent makes it go away. I'm not so sure about the green and blue in the cost.
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Extractor Demon - meh. So-so on this one. Yes, nice design, but he's almost completely obsoleted by Oona.
Giltspire Avenger - boo
So that's one positive, one neutral, and one negative for me. All in all, I feel the same about Conflux. Heh.
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As I figured, Esper is going to get much more support as the rest of the block is filled out.
There could always be more juice in Conflux to fuel the beater.
Loving the flier, the demon is a nice finisher in drafts, and a great Corpse Conneiusseur target.
The exalted guy is cute. I like him enough.
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Esperzoa is going to be really good. I think Standard can have a very viable Esper Aggro deck.
I second that. I can't believe a few tried to downplay this cards power level/significance. If the rarity is uncommon, which most here don't doubt and the OP has shown himself to be honorable anyways, then wow! It looks like we have TWO power uncommons right off the bat.
It's still too way early to tell if it could replace Sea Drake in the 3 spot as some have suggested here already. But what if does? Does wizards want to fix their earlier "mistake" of legalizing the Portal sets and almost immediately adding new members to the Royal Family?
I always thought StP should have been seriously retried to give newer formats access to such a useful tool, but I seriously didn't think they could do it. Ditto for dual lands.
Wow.
So, Wizards, what's next?
Rancor?
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2 drop swings for 2-4 a turn, and 3 drops swing for 4 a turn consistently through the air.
It might even find a home in Affinity since that deck easily has other artifacts it would rather return.
Crap its a major advantage in Vintage where you can bounce your mox sapphire during your upkeep, and tap it for mana first then play it again in your main phase.
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I like Extractor Demon; I've enjoyed mill for some time now, and tacking it as a trigger on a beefy body is quite nice.
WTF at an artifact jellyfish. How does that work? I can imagine a Grixan jellyfish (rah! undead ball of fire with tentacles!) before an artifact one.
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OK, first off, thanks for the spoiler. But I think the problem here is the fact that with translations is that sometimes meaning are lost.
The Demon may actually say when even a creature card goes to the graveyard, Remember Prince of Thralls?, it says the same thing, When ever a permanent goes the to grave yard you get it or your opponent loses 3 life. The card did not have to be in play, it could have been milled, discarded, countered or destroyed, as long as it goes to the grave yard. True. That would make this card broken, but it costs 6 as well, and anyone who plays mill style decks knows that 6 mana is a lot. Of course a Traumatize following this would win you the game , but with 5CC and White weenie running the show around here, it's easy to guess that the wording is right on this guy.
As for the Jellyfish, humm, not a huge fan, it may work well in a Artifact control style deck, but I see it's ability not shining in standered to much. Limited great card as well as legacy or casual but not standered.
Same goes for the selective Dread. Exaulted is great in Limited, but the ill creatures that hit you frist ablitiy doesn't really fly to well. You have stuff like Enphrical Arkangel that has shroud and well it your getting swarmed one creature is not going to matter as much. But it could be intresting.
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