I don't know exactly how this happened. Just my luck, I guess. I happened to be sitting in the train back home from work, when I overheard two people talking about some upcoming magic cards. I don't know who they were or how reliable they are. Don't look at me, I could have been fooled!
Anyway, this is what i could scribble down:
Foresee :3mana::symu:
Sorcery
Scry 4, then draw two cards
36/180
I don't know exactly how this happened. Just my luck, I guess. I happened to be sitting in the train driving back home from work, when I overheard two people talking about some upcoming magic cards. I don't know who they were or how reliable they are. Don't look at me, I could have been fooled!
Anyway, this is what i could scribble down:
Forsee :3mana::symu:
Scry 4, then draw two cards
36/180
Mystic Speculation
Buyback 2
Scry3
41/180
Weird thing is I read on this forum from BOP a mention of Mystic Speculation. Coincidence?
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i like both of those cards... A LOT, but if Mystic Speculation is an instant, i might have to kill someone
no... if Foresee is an instant I'd have to kill someone. hmm... let me just draw the two cards I want as well as the one card I want to draw next turn.
yea, these would be cool stuff, but, i doubt it. I really liked Scry as an ability too.
and it seems anything i ever liked in rumor form, never comes to life:banghead:
Foresee will not be an instant, as it is strictly superior to Inspiration, which Wizards has been slowly ousting in terms of power levels. Compulsive Research and Think Twice would likely be replaced by it automatically, the former possibly even if it is a sorcery,
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I could see those. Forsee is certaintly interesting, but I could easily see that with Forcast instead of Scry 4. I'm not sure how much face time old mechanics get each...
As for the second one, I'm willing to say that's almost 100% assured. Neo-Brainstorm-esq.
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Well, if Mystic Speculation exists and is an instant, it works very well with Counterbalance, which would give MUC and others a friendly little boost.
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I want them both to be instants. Inspiration? Who needs it?! Amirite?
Additionally, the cards are nice either way but I really want them both to be instant. If they were both instant, it would make Mike Flores cry, for joy :). In all seriousness, they are both welcomed by blue players with open arms.
Finally Scry is back. I want it to stay in magic forever!
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Why does Mystic Speculation bother people as an instant, it basically reads:
Mystic Speculation
U
Instant
Look at the top three cards of your library. Put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order. Buyback 2
I mean is this better than Telling Time? (which at least cantrip'd)
Personally I can't see it being a sorcery. Forsee on the other hand, definitely is, it basically reads:
Forsee
3U
Sorcery
Look at the top four cards of your library. Put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.
Draw 2 cards.
No way that could be an instant, but its a darn good sorcery - either draw the best 2 of four off the top, or if theres nothing good coming, throw all 4 on the bottom and draw 2 - now that's digging power!
Uh, you managed to get card numbers from overhearing the conversation? Sounds a bit odd. But then you do have over a thousand posts here. Strikes me as a bit fishy on exactly how you got the cards, but they seem pretty fair and balanced. Good find.
Forsee on the other hand, definitely is, it basically reads:
Forsee
3U
Sorcery
Look at the top four cards of your library. Put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.
Draw 2 cards.
No way that could be an instant, but its a darn good sorcery - either draw the best 2 of four off the top, or if theres nothing good coming, throw all 4 on the bottom and draw 2 - now that's digging power!
I agree. If it were an instant...well might cast a shadow over our new blue Careful Consideration.
Answer me this: How do you not hear what the card type is (instant/sorcery) BUT you get the card set numbers? Who says the set numbers out loud? Have you ever had a discussion where the set number was mentioned? I'm just baffled by this, as I can't come up with an answer.
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and... Dredge is sick, LftL will go into extended, and you use these cards to give yourself ultimate library control. If mystical speculation does make it in as an instant, you can dredge a few, scry, dredge some more, scry, etc... what you want goes in the bin, everything else keeps you in a healthy stack of cards. Good news for constructed, thanks hunter!
Answer me this: How do you not hear what the card type is (instant/sorcery) BUT you get the card set numbers? Who says the set numbers out loud? Have you ever had a discussion where the set number was mentioned? I'm just baffled by this, as I can't come up with an answer.
This is exactly what I was thinking. A conversation that involves the set numbers but not the card types is unbelievable to me.
I would be more suspicious if these cards didn't seem so reasonable. Plus you have over one thousand posts, which gives you some credibility.
Hunter's on the Rumor Mill Heroes list, so he's not lying to us. At worst, he heard wrong, or the source was bad. But Hunter isn't making crap up to get attention.
As for the cards, if they're real, I like them. I don't like blue except for card drawing and library manipulation, which these are.
Which brings up a point... why two cards with very similar designs, in the same set? Not that this never happens, it's just strange.
If I were to design those, I'd make them both sorceries. Especailly Forsee - it would be far overpowered as an instant imo.
Also note, these would be the first cards ever with Scry other than 2. Not that that's weird, I'm just pointing it out. At one point, all Cycling cards were :2mana:.
I think we can safely assume that Hunter, at least, is reliable. The two people overheard on the other hand...
Mystic Speculation as an instant would be kind of wrong. As an instant, it is essentially free (cast during your opponent's end step) and once you start being able to cast it multiple times the amount of card selection you get becomes fairly ridiculous.
If it were a sorcery without buyback, it would still see heavy play.
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Anyway, this is what i could scribble down:
Foresee :3mana::symu:
Sorcery
Scry 4, then draw two cards
36/180
Mystic Speculation
Sorcery
Buyback 2
Scry 3
41/180
[edit] They might have mentioned that these are sorceries
Weird thing is I read on this forum from BOP a mention of Mystic Speculation. Coincidence?
i like both of those cards... A LOT, but if Mystic Speculation is an instant, i might have to kill someone
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If it's an instant then blue control just got a very very powerful tool.
Start with the blue players. Shouldn't dent their population much if Flores' chart is still accurate
no... if Foresee is an instant I'd have to kill someone. hmm... let me just draw the two cards I want as well as the one card I want to draw next turn.
and it seems anything i ever liked in rumor form, never comes to life:banghead:
Hopefully, these will come to be.
As for the second one, I'm willing to say that's almost 100% assured. Neo-Brainstorm-esq.
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Additionally, the cards are nice either way but I really want them both to be instant. If they were both instant, it would make Mike Flores cry, for joy :). In all seriousness, they are both welcomed by blue players with open arms.
Finally Scry is back. I want it to stay in magic forever!
Nice rumors...I like these type of rumors.
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Mystic Speculation
U
Instant
Look at the top three cards of your library. Put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.
Buyback 2
I mean is this better than Telling Time? (which at least cantrip'd)
Personally I can't see it being a sorcery. Forsee on the other hand, definitely is, it basically reads:
Forsee
3U
Sorcery
Look at the top four cards of your library. Put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.
Draw 2 cards.
No way that could be an instant, but its a darn good sorcery - either draw the best 2 of four off the top, or if theres nothing good coming, throw all 4 on the bottom and draw 2 - now that's digging power!
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I agree. If it were an instant...well might cast a shadow over our new blue Careful Consideration.
and... Dredge is sick, LftL will go into extended, and you use these cards to give yourself ultimate library control. If mystical speculation does make it in as an instant, you can dredge a few, scry, dredge some more, scry, etc... what you want goes in the bin, everything else keeps you in a healthy stack of cards. Good news for constructed, thanks hunter!
This is exactly what I was thinking. A conversation that involves the set numbers but not the card types is unbelievable to me.
I would be more suspicious if these cards didn't seem so reasonable. Plus you have over one thousand posts, which gives you some credibility.
As for the cards, if they're real, I like them. I don't like blue except for card drawing and library manipulation, which these are.
Which brings up a point... why two cards with very similar designs, in the same set? Not that this never happens, it's just strange.
If I were to design those, I'd make them both sorceries. Especailly Forsee - it would be far overpowered as an instant imo.
Also note, these would be the first cards ever with Scry other than 2. Not that that's weird, I'm just pointing it out. At one point, all Cycling cards were :2mana:.
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Mystic Speculation as an instant would be kind of wrong. As an instant, it is essentially free (cast during your opponent's end step) and once you start being able to cast it multiple times the amount of card selection you get becomes fairly ridiculous.
If it were a sorcery without buyback, it would still see heavy play.