Great, another 5 color sliver-gasm to collect. I am not sure I really like the card that much though. It would be much easier for a sliver deck to just run coat of arms instead of this 5 color beast. at least it would be easier to cast. Or they could run both and have an army of huge slivers.
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I would be willing to bet that 'Sliver Legion' is not the final name. I'd agree with the other people who think that it sounds odd in its current form due to that name. I am sure we'll see that abilitiy though.
As far as its actual name goes... I vote for Overmind, Eternal Will of the Swarm.
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Cyme we inne frið, fram the grip of deaþ to lif inne ðis smylte land.
that sliver is nuts...
it will grow over the reach of shivan meteor in no-time in a sliver deck...
get battaring sliver with him and you're good to go...some pump slivers to the fun too...first strike will turn it ridiculous...
i really think this might be the best sliver lord ever...
after all in a sliver deck you can expect him to be MUCH better attacker...
I hope Jhoira has something to do with artifacts. It would be flavorful character-wise and U/R are the usual artifact colors. *sigh* I miss equipments. I hope FS has at least 1.
Oh man, I hope every single person that blasted Vensur in that Thread about his Spoils feels like total jerks for how they treated him. Good stuff! good stuff!
Being right isn't an excuse to be an arrogant ass, especially with no proof. He deserved everything he got up until he apologized.
It is a possibility, but frankly Jhoira never seemed a tiny bit blue to me. (Granted, I haven't read Time Spiral block novels.) If they make her blue, or partially blue, just because she appeared on some blue cards, that will be very disappointing. Not at all unlike their recent approach, actually - making legends that don't resemble the actual characters one tiny bit.
I have read them and frankly after reading them she doesn't even seem a tiny bit blue. Lots of impatience and anger in her. She seems a tiny bit white of late but only during one particular scene. She's definitely red. It's just whether they decided to throw the blue in there and make her multicolor. I'm doubting that right now tho. My bet on Jhoira: Mono-:symr: and a 5% chance to go :symr::symw:.
As for Sliver Legion, meh. I never really liked slivers. In fact, they annoy me and this just makes it worse.
Well if that Sliver Legion is real, it's going to be a pretty popular card, and will push casial sliver decks even higher into popularity. I've always said 5 colour legends should be 7/7 with an ability. Karona, False God was good for nothing except jokes about Corona beer.
It's kind of odd though that Wizards says they're pushing monocoloured decks hard now. This definitely encourages 5 colour decks, if it's real.
It's kind of odd though that Wizards says they're pushing monocoloured decks hard now. This definitely encourages 5 colour decks, if it's real.
Well yeah but it's more encouraging 5 color decks around the lunch table at school than the tourney scene. I'll be seriously shocked if Legion Sliver appears in any competitive decklists unless Future Sight also brings Reanimate Sliver and Meddling Mage Sliver.
Edit: Akroma was voted the most popular Legend ever, which kind of excludes her from being "quasi-iconic"
She got worst with the new supertypes, you could name legend before and swing for 8.
I dont know, Sliver Queen was good by herself but Sliver Legion seems like its could actually just win the game flat out.
Trust me Im not a Johnny but it does have possibilty if there are more reasons to run g/u in a sliver deck. I mean its not tier 1 or anything but it could def be decent rogue deck.
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Well if that Sliver Legion is real, it's going to be a pretty popular card, and will push casial sliver decks even higher into popularity. I've always said 5 colour legends should be 7/7 with an ability. Karona, False God was good for nothing except jokes about Corona beer.
It's kind of odd though that Wizards says they're pushing monocoloured decks hard now. This definitely encourages 5 colour decks, if it's real.
especially with some of the underwhelming slivers they've made. 4 for a 3/3 with haste? thats kinda steep just to make a solid-green sliver deck. Especially for haste of all things.
and I still don't see why a 5-color sliver is so hard to pull out, especially with these new cheap slivers like gemhide, sidewinder, and sinew. 2-3 lands, 2-3 slivers(gehide included), sliver legion. All slivers are now mega buff.
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*drools* Sliver legion...
I had brood Slivers and Volrath's Laboratory in a casual sliver deck i ran once, with this i could make one huge sliver legend, and it already starts as a 7/7!
me likey
Being right isn't an excuse to be an arrogant ass, especially with no proof. He deserved everything he got up until he apologized.
Well, he didnt get like that till he was attacked a couple times. and all he said was Beleive me or dont believe me. Hes called a troll about 10 times between his 2nd post and his 3rd.
If anyone knows why G0-DRAW was banned I would love it if they would PM me. That guy was pure entertainment 100% of the time. Plus he never publicly responded to his Contraptions "Proof" that never panned out.
Well, he didnt get like that till he was attacked a couple times. and all he said was Beleive me or dont believe me. Hes called a troll about 10 times between his 2nd post and his 3rd.
agreed, after reading through that thread some of the replies to him were mean-spitited and some downright vicious. And if being an ass is the solution to a person being an ass, then I guess that topic went the right way.
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Nice info I know it won't happen but I would have loved to have seen Jhoira have the Tinker ability , just for nostalgias sake.
That could totally happen, if she was a spellshaper.
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Does that seem strong to anyone? It looks absolutely weak to me.
Well, he didnt get like that till he was attacked a couple times. and all he said was Beleive me or dont believe me. Hes called a troll about 10 times between his 2nd post and his 3rd.
Generally when one proffers a large number of ideas that come across as purely speculative and refuses to give any sort of proof or development on the grounds of 'being too lazy,' the post is trolling. I am still far from convinced that he wasnt, due entirelly to his idea of the 'icons in the top left corner of the card'
If that were true, we'd have tombstone icons on Flashback cards. We dont. Indeed, there were a few articles on how stupid the tomestone was looking back on it. I dont see a reason to return to having those sorts of icons.
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Cyme we inne frið, fram the grip of deaþ to lif inne ðis smylte land.
That could totally happen, if she was a spellshaper.
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Does that seem strong to anyone? It looks absolutely weak to me.
A: It needs to tap. Period.
B: Being able to sac an artifact land for Darksteel Colossus is what broke the original Tinker (Okay, so it was actually Memory Jar/Masticore/whatever broken artifact you might need, but that's not the point). Granted, requiring you to pay 4 mana first, then wait a whole turn on a fragile 2/2 body (see point A) seriously decreases the power. But in a U/R control deck, the ability to go "turn seven billion, drop this four drop, next turn, Grab DSC, win target game." is potent, since they'd be able to keep her safe, barring Sudden Shock shenanigans.
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Oh man, i am praying for a Stone Throwing Devils spellshaper. I am still waiting for them to get a tribute in TS block. I thought for sure the black first strike sliver would have something to do with STD, but i am still waiting
Well, he didnt get like that till he was attacked a couple times. and all he said was Beleive me or dont believe me. Hes called a troll about 10 times between his 2nd post and his 3rd.
you can choose to believe me or not, it does not change the fact that I know what I am talking about...it just decides that you are delaying making a fool of yourself
This is pretty exciting. I like the idea of the creature-shapers making "iconic" one-drops... Still keeping with that idea of nostalgia, even in the "future' themed set.
I've always liked Jhoira, so I think it's cool that she's getting a card. Hopefully she'll do something useful.
The black one I hope would be stone throwing devils. That would really make my day.
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As far as its actual name goes... I vote for Overmind, Eternal Will of the Swarm.
it will grow over the reach of shivan meteor in no-time in a sliver deck...
get battaring sliver with him and you're good to go...some pump slivers to the fun too...first strike will turn it ridiculous...
i really think this might be the best sliver lord ever...
after all in a sliver deck you can expect him to be MUCH better attacker...
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Being right isn't an excuse to be an arrogant ass, especially with no proof. He deserved everything he got up until he apologized.
I have read them and frankly after reading them she doesn't even seem a tiny bit blue. Lots of impatience and anger in her. She seems a tiny bit white of late but only during one particular scene. She's definitely red. It's just whether they decided to throw the blue in there and make her multicolor. I'm doubting that right now tho. My bet on Jhoira: Mono-:symr: and a 5% chance to go :symr::symw:.
As for Sliver Legion, meh. I never really liked slivers. In fact, they annoy me and this just makes it worse.
It's kind of odd though that Wizards says they're pushing monocoloured decks hard now. This definitely encourages 5 colour decks, if it's real.
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So a cycle of spellshaper creature generators? Is this a vertical cycle leading to the army of Akromas?
Well yeah but it's more encouraging 5 color decks around the lunch table at school than the tourney scene. I'll be seriously shocked if Legion Sliver appears in any competitive decklists unless Future Sight also brings Reanimate Sliver and Meddling Mage Sliver.
Edit: Akroma was voted the most popular Legend ever, which kind of excludes her from being "quasi-iconic"
I dont know, Sliver Queen was good by herself but Sliver Legion seems like its could actually just win the game flat out.
Trust me Im not a Johnny but it does have possibilty if there are more reasons to run g/u in a sliver deck. I mean its not tier 1 or anything but it could def be decent rogue deck.
Not that I am one to criticize, but isn't that the best argument for its inclusion as prerelease card?
especially with some of the underwhelming slivers they've made. 4 for a 3/3 with haste? thats kinda steep just to make a solid-green sliver deck. Especially for haste of all things.
and I still don't see why a 5-color sliver is so hard to pull out, especially with these new cheap slivers like gemhide, sidewinder, and sinew. 2-3 lands, 2-3 slivers(gehide included), sliver legion. All slivers are now mega buff.
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I had brood Slivers and Volrath's Laboratory in a casual sliver deck i ran once, with this i could make one huge sliver legend, and it already starts as a 7/7!
me likey
Well, he didnt get like that till he was attacked a couple times. and all he said was Beleive me or dont believe me. Hes called a troll about 10 times between his 2nd post and his 3rd.
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agreed, after reading through that thread some of the replies to him were mean-spitited and some downright vicious. And if being an ass is the solution to a person being an ass, then I guess that topic went the right way.
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That could totally happen, if she was a spellshaper.
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Legendary Creature - Human Artificer
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2/2
Does that seem strong to anyone? It looks absolutely weak to me.
EDIT: Oh my god what a horrible mistake I made!
Generally when one proffers a large number of ideas that come across as purely speculative and refuses to give any sort of proof or development on the grounds of 'being too lazy,' the post is trolling. I am still far from convinced that he wasnt, due entirelly to his idea of the 'icons in the top left corner of the card'
If that were true, we'd have tombstone icons on Flashback cards. We dont. Indeed, there were a few articles on how stupid the tomestone was looking back on it. I dont see a reason to return to having those sorts of icons.
A: It needs to tap. Period.
B: Being able to sac an artifact land for Darksteel Colossus is what broke the original Tinker (Okay, so it was actually Memory Jar/Masticore/whatever broken artifact you might need, but that's not the point). Granted, requiring you to pay 4 mana first, then wait a whole turn on a fragile 2/2 body (see point A) seriously decreases the power. But in a U/R control deck, the ability to go "turn seven billion, drop this four drop, next turn, Grab DSC, win target game." is potent, since they'd be able to keep her safe, barring Sudden Shock shenanigans.
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